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KD said on the post game show that it was his fault that B McNight played so poorly. It seems that with J Wood out they rode him too hard in practice the last 2 days. They were using him in the post during practice. They even had a practice yesterday and KD said Brett legs were gone.

I have it recorded on my DVR. If I can figure out how to make it work I will post the final few seconds on here. It looked to me like Mincy threw a punch at Quade.

The University is trying to get more students to the games. I know that for the OU game they gave free pretzels to the first 500 students and they also are sending the ROO Express buses to all the dorms and frat houses to provide free transportation to the JAR.

I'm not ready to call him our "Best Balhandler" just yet, but he is only a Freshman and has only played in 15 games to this point. I see ALOT of potential in this kid. The greatest attribute that KD has as a coach is the ability to get improvement from his players. Just let McNees get some more games under his belt.

I thought OU gave us their best shot and we were still able to get the W. The Bobcats put on quite a defensive performance to make the game so close. Good win Zips!

I haven't had a chance to look at the box score -- at least there should be a box score, unlike rosters, which didn't exist at the game today -- but my rough count was five catches by Jabari out of seven times the ball was thrown his way. The first ball was over his head, and the last one was high, off his fingertips. The strange thing -- not sure what was up -- but the stadium PA announcer called his name for recovering a fumble by the Kai (West) team. I don't think he was playing defense, but who knows?Did anyone see the game -- and my sign? I think I got on Versus midway through the second quarter, as the cameraman came right up to me in the front row. I have to say, this was the most fun I've ever had at a football game. The crowd was an average Can't State size, maybe 6-8 thousand. And most everyone around me had a relative playing in the game! We all had a ball interacting with the players in front of us. However, this may well be the final Hula Bowl game, as the size of recent crowds is MAC-sized, and little sponsor $$ seems to exist. Beside no rosters, there was NO halftime show. I've never been to any FB game without ANY halftime show, and the Hula Bowl always used to have a great presentation at the half. No more. Also, the jerseys must be used from previous years, as the numbers were washed out. The '5' in Jabari's '85' was barely legible on his back. This is actually my favorite game, ahead of the Pro Bowl, but it may not be around much longer. Shame.Arthur was the leading reciever for the East squad, 5 receptions for 88 yds. There is a nice photo in the Honalulu paper.http://starbulletin.com/2008/01/13/sports/story07.html

I think a more realistic scenario is they don't know what they are doing, or they don't have a real grasp of what players have done.As far as them eventually getting in, former NFL Zips should be the first in line. Especially if they have graduated. In almost every case, NFL experience is an indication of the quality of a player.There is no defense for John not getting in yet.Maybe you could give them a call or send them a letter outlining your concerns. I remember Buddenberg as an outstanding player also and I'm sure he deserves consideration. Most of the members are older, but I don't think they lack a grasp of Zips sports history. You could always volunteer your services to the nominating commitee and that would give you some insight into the selection process.

Outstanding post GZ. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

I believe that Memorial Hall is scheduled to be torn down soon.

This news just in: Apparently the Dayton game has been cancelled by coach Dambrot. I guess he was watching ESPN2 today, and determined that playing a team of Dayton's caliber just didn't fit into his scheduling strategy of staying in the bottom-50 of RPI. I understand we will play Tiffin instead. Looks like CMU beat us to the punch. http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketbal...0071229_TIF@CMI

Dude, You never cease to amaze me! :blink: My kids read this board, I hope you are kidding about this?

Here's probably where our fundamental difference of opinion lies. You're looking at this as 30 (really it's 21) years of frustration since the last NCAA birth .. or maybe you're looking back to the last deep run in the College Division. Understandable .. if I had seen Wyatt Webb's teams play .. I might feel the same long term pressure .. but I've only got about 25 years of Zips watching.My view is this: This is not the same as 18 years ago .. it's not the same as 10 years ago .. and it's not the same as 5 years ago. We can NOT consider this year 21 of the rebuilding process .. or year 30 .. or whatever. I think we can only look at the program in it's current form: KD as head coach. This is year 4 of a program build under KD. He wasn't head coach in 1993, or 2003 .. he's the head coach now, and I think the program now is what we have to look at:2004-05: 19-10 overall, 11-7 in Conference, First Conf. Tourney win2005-06: 23-10 overall, 14-4 in Conference, Reached Conf Semis, 1-1 in the NIT2006-07: 25-7 Overall, 13-3 in Conference, Reached Conf. Tourney Finals.2007-08: 5-1 record thus far.I choose to consider the program's progress on these items alone .. not the 19 years of futility that preceded them. We're not going to wake up tomorrow and be a top 15 team that can demand reasonable game terms from other elite teams. But if we're patient, and support the team, coaches & program adequately, we WILL wake up a few years from now in that situation.This is going to take a little bit. We have to have some continuous improvement and the program will eventually be able to win year after year. JWood is the last player that remembers what it was like before .. and it either motivates him, or he's left it behind. Either way .. only now can you really say that every aspect of the program has KD's mark.I for one am good with what I see .. ZW, I agree with you on this approach. It would be interesting to see the history of how Gonzaga made itself into a mid-major power. Did they play all the big west coast programs and take thier lickings or was it a process similar to what KD is doing right now.

How about it GP?

Thanks for your support

I hope you are right about the modest charge for seat licenseing. My gut tells me that it will be a onetime charge in addition to the ongoing donation required to the Z scholarship fund. I would expect that prime seats(NOT Club) would be in the range of $200-$500 ea. For Club or other levels alot more.

I was assured that season ticket holders will get priority choices. How tenured you are as a season ticket holder will also play a part. With the longest tenured ticket holders getting the earliest selections. Considering the miniscule number of season ticket holders, anyone wanting season tickets at the new stadium can easily become a season ticket holder next season and still get a prime selection of seats.I would expect that the best seats will also have a "Seat License" that must be paid in addition to the cost of the seats. I have been a season ticket holder for 37 years, so I would hope that would give me a good chance at great seats, but I'm not sure I will be able to afford this extra charge for 5 seats.

I can verify that Wagner was the scout team QB.

Here what I saw from the new guys;* McNees is going to be OK. He seemed in much better condition than what we saw in preseason last year. KD says he lost 12-15 lbs and it shows in his ability to run. he is a much better ball handler than I expected. He is definatly a scorer first. I thought he did OK on defense. *Bardo also looked OK. For a young big man he moved OK and didn't seem lost out there. I doubt that he will help much on offense. He did snag four rebounds and wasn't embarassed on defense. He will play alot if he can avoid dumb fouls.*Sweich is definately a project. He didn't even leave the bench until garbage time. He is very slow and looked a little lost out there. He did make one basket, but if that was his normal shot, it was ugly. He kind of shot puts it to the basket on a line drive. He needs to redshirt and let the game come to him this year at practice.* Steward was dressed but did not get into the game. During the post game show KD hinted that he will play if healthy and I got the impression that he was ahead of McNees on the depth chart before being hurt.Now for the returning players;*Quade looked ready to go. That little jump hook shot will serve him well this year. He got pushed around a bit on the boards.*Wood had a so-so night. Offensively he was not at his best. He did try a couple of short jumpers but they were ugly.*Dials also wasn't sharp on offense. He did look good running the show at the point.*Linhart was his usual scrappy self. Lots of floor burns and fights for loose balls.*Conyers looks like this could be his breakout season. Played under control and looked better on offense than last year.*Goddard will probably see some real minutes this season. He can still shoot. Defense, not so good.*Middleton DNP*McKnight had a weird game. Even though he was the leading scorer you would be hard pressed to explain how. He took some ugly shots and didn't rebound very well. Lets hope he finds his groove and settles into his role.It sounded like KD is counting on Roberts and B McKnight to contribute when they become eligable. All things considered it was a good night.

No doors. Won't be at the final game so I can't take a pic for you. But if it's like last night, someone should have no problem getting a pick with no one in there. I went in a couple of times and was the only one in there. Hot as hell in there, too. Kind of like a sauna.With that small of a crowd, the bowl REALLY shows its age.Actual photo from last night. No joke here.Dr Z, are you sure thats the Rubber Bowl? Looks like Springfield HS to me!

Huh?

CK, My 8yr old son said the same thing! It was the most entertaining part of the game.

I've been told by someone close to the program that coach Moorhead is a very strict guy. Once you get on his bad side, he doesn't forget. CJ7 seems to have put himself into the doghouse and there is no relief in sight.

These preseason polls are just guesses on what might be the strongest teams based on last years returning players and any newcomers. What makes me confident that the Zips will be OK at the end of the year is KD's ability to coach up the players all season long. Since KD has been here every player has improved continuesly from season to season, sometimes game to game. As long as we don't have a rash of injuries we will have a great season.

Nice catch CK. Lets hope he blossoms and the Zips get lucky and steal one from the big guys.

I hope I'm wrong about JD, but so many of his battles are internal it would make it hard to go to work every day.The thought of a draw play on second and ten makes me want to vomit. I'm feeling even more glad I was not there Saturday. I have no problem with a running play, but we should be doing what NFL teams do on second and ten. They run straight at the line and try to get four/five and make it third and five/six. NFL teams try to increase the probablity of getting the first down on third down by decreasing the yards necessary on second down. It's just one of those trends that has taken hold the past few years. First down is a passing down and if there is an incompletion, they run on second. Draw plays on 2nd and 10! Those are the kind of play calls you see when the gameplan becomes "Playing not to lose". I agree about the concept of throw on 1st down and run it up the gut on 2nd. Anything on 3rd down 5 yards or less is a good position for the offense. From that yardage you can run or pass.