THEY ARE A LOT BETTER THAN UIC.Trust me, their record may be bad, but they are a lot better then their record indicates, as you guys experienced last year. I believe they only lost at UNC by 11 points.They are mainly a JUCO/New Recruit team because they graduated almost everyone from last year, or so I thought. In my eyes, Valpo will give you a much tougher challenge than UIC. However, they are probably the two bottom feeders in the HL this season.Yes, a LOT better. Many people on this board are pretty sure that UIC could contend for the MAC West crown, and I must admit that they might be better than Northern and Toledo. Sagarin currently has the Flames ranked as #257, but Valpo is way up there at #229. These guys would probably win it all in the MAC.