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Shutting out #3 and #4 in the same weekend. I wonder if that's a record? Just 11 more days!!!

You build a fan base. Through winning. And the slightest customer service wouldn't hurt. Would it? How many people would travel to a school (they never attended) 150 miles away to watch a 3-9 Buckeyes team? That hadn't had a winning record in years? This is football heaven. Bernie Kosar built a winning Arena team and NEOhio broke all the attendance records. There are more people at some NEOhio high school games than many colleges can draw. There's a D3 school in freakin Alliance that's on TV about every week. The Akron Aeros broke attendance records, drew better than all but 5 AAA teams. The Cleveland Force drew SRO crowds 20,000+ to see indoor soccer. This market is starving for a winner. Sold out entire seasons at the Jake. Imagine what a college football program could do. Nobody wants to see this program become respectable and win conference titles and bowl games and make Boise State look like a failure more than I do. To walk through campus and see more Zips garb than tOSU. I know personally what potential this area has... If you build it, they will come...

I have. Just because they play football and I was born and raised football and nothing else, I'd still rather see a top ranked team. A first class program.

Some people think they made this "huge investment" in the Info because they want to build a Div I-A level football program. No, they looked at how much it would cost to patch up the RB, and used it (and sponsor money they attracted by building it) to build the Info. It was virtually paid for the day it opened. It was cheaper to build the Info than to patch up the RB. That's why it's here. And for those who don't think we should play I-AA football in such a nice place, have you been to Canal Park? Pro Freight Stadium? Classic Park? There's nothing wrong with having a really nice venue to watch a team play. Even if they aren't considered top level.

Well, considering we haven't had an NFL team since 1994, I would say '94 or '95... If it were the Colts and Patriots, I would agree. They're a I-AA school (your quote) playing the 91st ranked team in the country. BCS my arse. They'd be third best in the MAC. They were 1-6 against the Big Easy last year. Still a lot better than us, but not quite a game big time college football fans schedule on their calendar as a must see. You guys act like they brought in the Crimson fricken Tide. That's right, it's all my fault. I'm the one recruiting, I'm the one teaching these guys the most basic fundamentals, I'm the one who can't figure out how to sell ice water in the desert. WE'RE the reason we're a I-AA school. Funny, the soccer program built itself into a powerhouse, without gouging the fans for years beforehand. No excuse. Maybe it's the people willing to pay Big Time College prices for a 124th ranked team, and get gouged to see them play a top 100 team (barely) is the reason they don't build this program. Just like the Browns and the Indians. What is Larry Dolan's incentive to put even a handful of major league players out there? Those idiots will pay for anything, because it's "Major League Baseball". And they'll pay $50 more per ticket to watch the team get slaughtered by a top team than play a team almost as bad as they are. He's sitting on one of the most profitable franchises in baseball. Why try? I see no reason to pay filet mignon prices for a McNugget Value Meal.

This early? This is the same product we have had the past several years. Only with a higher price tag. I'm a life long Indians fan too, but I'm not about to throw down over $100 to take the family to see that mess. They don't want to see that anyhow. Call me whatever you want. I don't think it's worth it.

I think they took the money it would take to patch up the RB for a few more years, got some sponsorship funds and other monies (one of Proenza's strong suits), and built a nice facility. I don't know if they ever intended to make the program more than it is. Other than replacing the RB, I haven't seen much from UA... There are schools that have played their cards right and have built competitive programs. Despite not being a BCS school. It's possible. But they have to decide whether they really want to build, or quit embarassing themselves against the Syracuses and Indianas. I'd rather watch them play YSU and Dayton and pay $10 or $15 per than what they're monkeying with right now.

Agreed. I had my three teenage boys waiting for me in the car, when I found out not only were tickets going to be $20 a piece, but I was also going to be charged for parking. That's $70 before we got in the door (I'm a student). Who do they think they are, the New England Patriots? For what? A team that imploded last September, has a new coach who hasn't had a chance to recruit, and an offense that looked like crap against it's own "finding it's way with a new system" defense. We went somewhere else. We're not going back. At least until they put an entertaining product on the field.

Anthony Schrock was dressed for the scrimmage, wearing #16, and got in on special teams.

I can't be a LeBron fan anymore. I was going to, no matter where he went. But he took a huge dump on Cavs fans, and I was a Cavs fan before LePrincess was born. The bridges are still burning. I don't think he hurt his legacy by going to another star's team. Any more than Moses Malone hurt his legacy when he went to Dr. J's and Andrew Toney's team. Or A Rod hurt his by joining Jeter's team.

They didn't have rosters available at the scrimmage either. My sons wanted to watch their former teammate. The coach is doing his part, with having these things for us. It's the Mickey Mouse athletic department that can't figure out how to tie their own shoes.

Good point...

So we hurt attendance at home games, take away a neat chance for those who attend games to see more, and still only get about half the exposure a Baldwin Wallace or Mount U gets.

Just a hall of fame rocker... "The Pride of Firestone High". Although to listen to the local "classic" rock stations, you'd never know she existed. That's pretty sad when they play her almost daily on the classic rock station in TOLEDO. If you like Benatar or Jett, she's the one who blazed that trail.

It'll make the decision of whether to go or not a lot easier to make. I'll be at more games!!! This will work a lot better than Can't's billboard champaign. Baseball games are worth 10? I would have had a nice bunch of points last year. They're just more convenient for the commuter student to catch a ballgame between or after classes.

Sounds like Can't's marketing program is going well... http://www.ohioverticals.com/blogs/kent_state/

+1+1 they haven't even begun to touch the possibilities with MCUC. And Wayne's getting bigger and busier. Why waste time and money on one of the most depressed parts of the rust belt? When Kant, Stark, Mount U, Malone, and Walsh are already there? Expand west and southwest, where the money is...

Just now, on ESPN during the NASCAR race.

You can hear or download the entire interview at http://www.espncleveland.com/audiovault/reghi_roda.php

Plus there are still the weeknight games on ESPNU or ESPN2. This can't be anything but positive.

Do we know what number he is going to be? If there are no jerseys available, does it matter? There is a Zip football jersey #8 hanging in the brand new Beef O' Brady's in Wadsworth. That was his high school number. It might be his college number too.

I know we're talking about two different things. My point is a mediocre Cavs team will hurt businesses in downtown, they're not going to make that up by people from Sandusky going downtown to watch Toy Story 35. it's going to cost jobs. But that's a drop in the bucket of Cleveland's problems. As I said later in my post.

I don't understand this. A winning team draws fans from a wide area. Not just the suburbs. Many of us go to games. People from Sandusky, Lorain, Akron, Canton, Ashtabula, Youngstown. These people are not going to drive to Cleveland to see a movie or go out to eat, they have all that right there where they live. Probably within 5 miles. In a small way this may help the local establishments, probably not enough to notice. But it's going to hit the restaurants and bars and hotels at Gateway hard. The arena workers. Souvenir sales. The Cavs have drawn over 20,000 per game the last four years. The year before The Playa came along they drew 14,000. That's a quarter million fans lost. And I bet money if they tracked the demographics, a lot more of those fans are from outside Cuyahoga County than from within. Anyway, how to save Cleveland? Like Hammer says, every day 20-something year old males move out of Cleveland everyday. LeGone just made the most noise. Just listen to the typical Clevelander. "This is a hard working blue collar town. Hard hat, hard working". Someone should tell them there are no hard hat cities anymore. Unless you go to Mexico or China or Saudi Arabia. You can just picture these guys getting up in the morning, putting on their overalls, and going down to the steel mills with their lunch bucket in their hand. Waiting for it to reopen. It aint coming back. Hell the biggest one is now a shopping center. You have to find something else. Pittsburgh did. Columbus did. Mansfield and Akron is trying. But Cleveland, Youngstown, Lorain, they're all waiting for the mills to open back up. "Hey, there's a hundred or so guys working at the Cleveland and Lorain and Canton mills, it's just a matter of time. We're tough, we're going to recover and make lots of steel again." Cleveland is done. Youngstown is done. Warren is done. Lorain. Sandusky. Canton. Maybe even Elyria. Stick a fork in 'em.

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