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Sounds like several very good reasons to play FCS football and have a lot more fun... My high school won their conference and went to the playoffs. In Division 4. It was a hell of a lot of fun. And if things had fallen into place, we could have had a chance to win the state championship. In Division 4. Nobody whined and moaned about not trying to be Whitmer and Moeller and St. Eds. Nobody would have traded that experience for a 42-0 ass kicking in Massillon. Same with the Canton Invaders. While we were celebrating an indoor soccer championship, nobody complained that we weren't playing ManU and Barcelona. It's about living within your means.

Phil Dawson didn't want to come back. They'll have a kicker on opening day. They just thought they could find one at least as good on the waiver wire.

But I'm talking about playing for a national championship in football. Legend said it in his post " Akron is never going to compete for a national championship". The same 10-12 "legacy" schools are all that are eligible for the BCS championship. And the playoffs aren't going to change that. They still have the same selection process to pick the four legacy schools as they did the two legacy schools. And even if there were a better system where conference champions would play off for a spot in the championship game, the MAC (and the MWC, and C-USA, and the SBC) are not going to be invited. Because the legacy schools still rule the NCAA, and are not about to let anyone else in. I'd rather see those four conferences have a four team playoff than go to a bowl game. Or a playoff to decide which two GO TO a bowl game. That would be much more entertaining and more of an accomplishment. To wrap it up, if you depend on a football away game against a team 50 points better than you (and bowl revenue) to sustain your athletics, you are in over your head. I don't know how else to explain that.

So you think football will always suck? And you're calling me a pessimist? My point is, since you haven't figured it out yet, is I want to see the football team be able to aspire to something greater than a third-rate bowl game against a .500 opponent. Am I the only one who has football as my favorite sport? I guess I went to the wrong $%# &$#% school then, if all it's there for is to prop up the basketball team that can't sustain itself.

Soooooo football is the sacraficial lamb for these other programs that can't sustain themselves. I guess all those fee$ I was paying to cover those sports was wasted? Or was I paying off the softball stadium (while getting splinters at the baseball uhhhh swamp)? Maybe with REAL facilities, the basketball program wouldn't have to rely on the football team getting destroyed by a B10 school every year. Maybe LeBron should help more. Maybe we should have built a new arena for the basketball instead of the new football stadium, since the football team makes all of their money on the road. Great system we got here, trying to compete with the big boys with a baby boy budget. I guess Huggins just didn't see the big picture.

A couple signs that I graduated from the University of Akron Within three months of graduation, I took and passed my state licensure test, and found a position that doubled my previous salary. And could triple it this week (fingers crossed), a year away from graduation. Everywhere I go and I tell them where I went to school, it raises eyebrows. Try that at Can't State or CSU...

One program dropping to a lower sub of DI does not have ONE SINGLE THING to do with any of the other programs. You geezers are so against anything different you can't even keep the topics straight. It's all just melding together into one big pile of crap. I'm trying, I'm really trying to wrap my arms around the idea of the soccer and basketball programs playing for national championships, while the football team strives to build a program that can contend to play the 8th best B10 team in the Pizza Bowl. I'm just not there yet.

If football dropped to Division I-AA, note the I, why would basketball and soccer have to drop from I to II? Although if basketball did drop to Division II, the JAR would be appropriate.

ESPN3 through an X Box. It would freeze and then skip forward, or run behind the actual game (I would see stuff in the forum that wasn't on my TV yet). Then X Box Live kept logging off. Next time I'll use a computer instead of the game system. Or just listen to Frenchie and play the game on XBox. The Zips are nationally ranked on it.

That's a good point. It's as if he's afraid a bigger program is going to pound him into next season. But they weren't giving him a lot of pressure that I saw. My XBox Live/ESPN3 was a gong show but what I did see, he had time.

YEssir. UCF is a very good mid. I don't know if I would even call them a mid, looking at their enrollment. Now Can't squeaking past Liberty, that's a different story. :lol:

I firmly believe this team could take NIU at home. And might give them a scare in DeKalb. This is not a bad program we got beat by tonight. They got it together. I still think we win 3.

Another reason to lead off with a I-AA school...

I hope we're getting a big payday for this game. Like the Michigan game.

"There's the poise" as the ball falls out of his hand.

It's XBox Live dropping out on us. Migt hae to hoook the puter to the TV

It would be worse to be the defending runners-up and not be able to put away Liberty. I'd almost rather watch that shipwreck. Flush fans will say its because Dri is out. I expected us to have trouble against UCF. They would give anyone in the MAC fits, might even beat NIU, at home. I wish we would start the season against the James Madisons. It would make these games easier to take. Well, we lost ESPN3, guess I'll check on the Browns 3rd team.

Called that one,

I want to see a replay of that fumble...

On Joe Dunn's radio showe yesterday they said the Time-Warner Sports Net would be picked up by satellite services. Fingers crossed (I have DirecTV)/

I think it would look good right in the center of the Can't State campus. LOL Get a couple guys I know drunk, and they might do it.

Sports Time Ohio is toast after the baseball season anyhow. Fox bought them and will be merging it with Fox Sports Ohio. STO's contracts with different entities (including the website I wrote for) are done. A lot of good people are leaving STO. Game over. Time Warner is a rip off. I'm not going back. I have two choices for cable, if I wanted to go back to cable (on DirecTV now) and I don't. Awful deal, MAC. You screwed yourself. Way to stay small.

MAC ANNOUNCES CREATION OF CAMELLIA BOWL IN 2014; MONTGOMERY, ALA-BASED BOWL OWNED & OPERATED BY ESPN MAC vs. Sun Belt matchup to begin in 2014 college football bowl season For Immediate Release—Monday, August 19, 2013 Cleveland, Ohio – The Mid-American Conference announced today the creation of the Camellia Bowl, a newly created bowl game to begin in 2014, which will be based in Montgomery, Alabama, owned and operated by ESPN. The Camellia Bowl will feature a MAC bowl eligible football program to face a member of the Sun Belt Conference for the next six consecutive football seasons (2014-2019) in a pre-Christmas game televised nationally by ESPN or ESPN2. “The Mid-American Conference is proud to partner in the creation of the Camellia Bowl beginning with the 2014 season,” said Dr. Jon Steinbrecher, Mid-American Conference Commissioner. “The historic Cramton Bowl will be a great venue for our student-athletes and fans. Additionally, Montgomery’s entertainment district will provide a fun and lively bowl experience for all involved. I want to thank all parties involved for their diligence in creating this event, especially Montgomery mayor Todd Strange.” The Camellia Bowl will be played in the Cramton Bowl, a 25,000 seat stadium that has undergone significant renovations over the last several years, including a new press box facility, locker rooms and VIP hospitality accommodations. Beginning in the 2014 bowl season, the Camellia Bowl will be the third bowl game where the MAC is a primary bowl partner. The MAC has long-term primary contracts with the Go Daddy Bowl (based in Mobile, Ala.) through the 2017 season and Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (based in Boise, Ida.) through the 2019 season

Cautious optimism.

I never knew where it was. I found where the Akron Pro's stadium was. But not Forge Field. Was it where the ball diamond is now? The first Zip game was played in Hudson. No stadium yet. Nobody thought college football would be what it is today.