GP1 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yes but the example you give is quite different than this situation. For example, Cincy got blown out after its coach bolted early for another gig, and .........oh, never mind. I dont care who was coaching Cincy. When you lose that bad, you don't have the horses to compete. NIU will be ready to play. FSU's horses aren't that great. Good, but not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 I'm pretty certain UMass sees none of this money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted December 3, 2012 Report Share Posted December 3, 2012 Anyone else think a byproduct of this will be poll votes being a lot harder to come by for MAC teams next season? That is unless NIU puts a whoopin' on FSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Anyone else think a byproduct of this will be poll votes being a lot harder to come by for MAC teams next season? That is unless NIU puts a whoopin' on FSU. No. They are already hard enough to come by lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 NIU to offer students free Orange Bowl tickets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 I dont care who was coaching Cincy. When you lose that bad, you don't have the horses to compete. NIU will be ready to play. FSU's horses aren't that great. Good, but not great. Anyone who doubts NIU can compete with FSU need only look at former FSU starter Avis Commack, who made the mistake of trying to tackle Jordan Lynch at about the 5 yard line this season...and ended up flattened and semi-conscious at the 2 yard line as Lynch strolled into the endzone. I title this picture: "Before the Lights Went Out" - Beat writers always steal ideas from our board, so here's one - Interview Avis Commack and see what he feels about NIU's chances against his former school. To a lesser extent, a Bowden might also have interesting thoughts on the subject? You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Avis Commack, who made the mistake of trying to tackle Jordan Lynch at about the 5 yard line this season...and ended up flattened and semi-conscious at the 2 yard line as Lynch strolled into the endzone.They showed that highlight/lowlight on PTI last night. I chuckled a little...then felt embarrassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 4, 2012 Report Share Posted December 4, 2012 Anyone who doubts NIU can compete with FSU need only look at former FSU starter Avis Commack, who made the mistake of trying to tackle Jordan Lynch at about the 5 yard line this season...and ended up flattened and semi-conscious at the 2 yard line as Lynch strolled into the endzone. I title this picture: "Before the Lights Went Out" - Beat writers always steal ideas from our board, so here's one - Interview Avis Commack and see what he feels about NIU's chances against his former school. To a lesser extent, a Bowden might also have interesting thoughts on the subject? You're welcome. Further expansion on my horse analogy. FSU has "West Virginia Derby" horses. If you go to the WV Derby each year, there will be a horse or two who ran in the Kentucky Derby. Typically, they came in middle of the back to bottom of the pack in then Kentucky Derby. Better than the future glue factory participants in the WV Derby, but not quite up to snuff against the best of the best. I just described the ACC and by extension FSU. NIU could finish in the money in the WV Derby if they were a horse. Some things would have to go right for them to win, but they could win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Anyone who doubts NIU can compete with FSU need only look at former FSU starter Avis Commack, who made the mistake of trying to tackle Jordan Lynch at about the 5 yard line this season...and ended up flattened and semi-conscious at the 2 yard line as Lynch strolled into the endzone. I title this picture: "Before the Lights Went Out" - Beat writers always steal ideas from our board, so here's one - Interview Avis Commack and see what he feels about NIU's chances against his former school. To a lesser extent, a Bowden might also have interesting thoughts on the subject? You're welcome. Put up or shut up time. Would give the MAC a good boost if NIU can pull off the upset. And the Zips got some National Airtime, they showed this clip of Lynch running over Commack (an FSU transfer - omen?). They just mentioned that in 1998 NIU broke a 23 game losing streak. I had forgotten about that. Still think this is impossible for the Zips? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Who is TB rooting for tonight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Who is TB rooting for tonight? Or NZF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Or NZF? Nice...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 NZF=MIA... NIU looking like they belong so far. They need to ditch the QB run up the middle. FSU studied that one. Half time adjustments might determine outcome. I like Pryor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Lynch looked like a giant freight train in the MAC. Tonight the FSU linebackers are matching his speed and then some, and throwing him around like a rag doll when they get a hold of him. That ACC speed and power are damned impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Lynch looked like a giant freight train in the MAC. Tonight the FSU linebackers are matching his speed and then some, and throwing him around like a rag doll when they get a hold of him. That SEC speed and power are damned impressive. Florida State is in the ACC not SEC. It's not that he can't run, it's that 95% of the runs have been predictable right up the middle. Not to mention his passing game has be terrible. I don't think they have much of a chance, but still need to try some more passing and option runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Florida State is in the ACC not SEC. It's not that he can't run, it's that 95% of the runs have been predictable right up the middle. Not to mention his passing game has be terrible. I don't think they have much of a chance, but still need to try some more passing and option runs. My bad, and fixed, although in many years FSU has "SEC type speed" on that roster. Lynch looks pretty ordinary tonight. NIU isn't playing a MAC team tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Lynch looked like a giant freight train in the MAC. Tonight the FSU linebackers are matching his speed and then some, and throwing him around like a rag doll when they get a hold of him. That SEC speed and power are damned impressive. NIU got screwed on that pass play before their field goal. That was pretty blatant interference in the end zone right in front of the ref. It's hard to see what adjustments the NIU offense can make to offset the talent mismatch, and it looks like the NIU defense was tiring. They were on the field too much, playing soft and trying not to give up the big play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Lynch just made a great throw for a long pass play to dig out of a hole. The problem is that he is a run-first QB tonight, and he is not nearly big nor fast enough to make that work against this FSU team. One of these plays, the FSU linebackers are going to break him in half as he stretches out at the end of a run. If he throws it more they stand a better chance. By the way, one of the commentators just said "there's some Maction" after a Lynch run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Not a fan of the play calling tonight. You cannot stack the backfield and run up the middle like you did in the MAC when FSU has 50+ lb advantage on the line. Spread the D out some. With that said, a few plays cost NIU any chance at winning. 14 points of turnovers, including costing yourself points with the interception. Keeping drives alive by costly penalties. Hopefully Akron uses the money gained from this game to improve the program in any way. Mainly any combination of putting money aside to pay the HC/assistants more to retain them, as well as an increased recruiting budget. ~30k is tough to work with when you are trying to recruit nationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I thought NIU played a pretty good game against a BCS conference champion. If those two teams played ten times, FSU would win 9 of the 10, if not 10 of ten. I don't have a problem with their play calling. NIU went in the game and played their game. It wasn't enough. I thought the players could have played better, but that wouldn't have closed the gap in talent enough to produce a win. FSU beat Wake, BC, Duke and Maryland by larger margins this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I don't have a problem with their play calling. NIU went in the game and played their game. It wasn't enough. I thought the players could have played better, but that wouldn't have closed the gap in talent enough to produce a win. FSU beat Wake, BC, Duke and Maryland by larger margins this season.I did. I watched a few FSU games this season. Their defense is awesome, especially up front. I'm guessing the NIU staff looked at film and determined FSU was too fast to run a lot of perimeter plays. I think the strength of there defense against NIU was the middle. I would have attacked elsewhere. FSU is a great college team. It was fun to watch the MAC champ go up against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 I did. I watched a few FSU games this season. Their defense is awesome, especially up front. I'm guessing the NIU staff looked at film and determined FSU was too fast to run a lot of perimeter plays. I think the strength of there defense against NIU was the middle. I would have attacked elsewhere. FSU is a great college team. It was fun to watch the MAC champ go up against them. They did attack in other ways. They ran a couple of jet sweeps that went nowhere. NIU's WRs rushed the ball last night four times for -10 yards. Take away a -20 yard loss on one play, and they rush 3 times for 10 yards. They ran some pass plays that resulted in poorly thrown passes or drops. I would have like to have seen more option, but NIU just didn't have the talent on offense to compete with a great defense like that. If nothing is working, you go with your best guy and hope for the best. It didn't work out. NIU had to play a perfect game. When the QB displays little ability to throw with the accuracy necessary to win in a BCS game (15/41, 175 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT) and the receivers display MAClike catching ability (something I complain about on this site all the time) it doesn't matter what is called. Short of using a catapult to launch players over the FSU d-line into the end zone (only if the game could have been that exciting), they weren't going to move the ball well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 ...the QB displays little ability to throw with the accuracy necessary to win in a BCS game (15/41, 175 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT)That usually puts the kibosh on a lot of game plans. Think 2011 Zips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 2, 2013 Report Share Posted January 2, 2013 Even the best MAC teams are always going to run into an overall size, speed and depth deficit when going up against one of the big football factory programs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 SEC! SEC! SEC! Louisville (who is one of the reasons NIU made a BCS game) is putting a hurting on Florida. Maybe NIU just got the wrong Florida team. Non-BCS teams are now 5-3 all time in BCS bowls but one of those losses and one win should be discounted because TCU and Boise State were forced to play each other one year. A 4-2 record is pretty impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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