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I am obviously not the only one that thinks we will have completely wasted a scholarship on this kid if he does in fact have one. Has anyone been able to find out if that offer was, in fact, legit?

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I would hope there is more to the four day suspension than just an artistic expression.
Not sounding like it.

Here is what Rittman principal Brett Lanz told WJW in a statement:

"[The student] wrote a mean and disrespectful poem about another student and our athletic director/head coach. [it was] hazing, harrassment."

Does a mean-spirited poem read out once in a public classroom really constitute hazing? Neither Andre or his mother think it does, and one prominent Cleveland civil rights lawyer agrees with them.

"The breadth of expression, even in public schools, is virtually limitless," Cleveland-based lawyer Avery Friedman told WJW. "Unless speech is creating material disruption to the educational process, which certainly isn’t here."

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Hard to believe that writing and reading a poem in high school that speaks poorly about your football coach would get you kicked off the team?

Back in my day, coaches loved such poems. The usually netted you a starting job and a Team Captain's role. :rolleyes:

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I agree with the Principle. Free speech is one thing, but making slanderous accusations against the coach and his fellow team mate is out of line. Avery Friedman has been on the wrong side of these cases more than once.

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I'll be darned.
Power of the pen. I wonder if the resignation is a step to start some kind of legal action. The principle handled this poorly. Hopefully the great grandson of the guy from Nantucket never enrolls in his institution.
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Power of the pen. I wonder if the resignation is a step to start some kind of legal action.

Possibly; he may be able to attach the kid's lunch money for several years.

The principle handled this poorly.

The guy in charge of the school didn't do such a good job either.

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Things are CRAZY in Rittman. Dennis and sister start school in Orrville Monday due to threats. This has gotten REALLY out of hand.

I sense him enrolling in Akron in January.

Or Oberlin...Bluffton...wherever he has a scholarship offer.

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Not sounding like it.

Here is what Rittman principal Brett Lanz told WJW in a statement:

"[The student] wrote a mean and disrespectful poem about another student and our athletic director/head coach. [it was] hazing, harrassment."

Does a mean-spirited poem read out once in a public classroom really constitute hazing? Neither Andre or his mother think it does, and one prominent Cleveland civil rights lawyer agrees with them.

"The breadth of expression, even in public schools, is virtually limitless," Cleveland-based lawyer Avery Friedman told WJW. "Unless speech is creating material disruption to the educational process, which certainly isn’t here."

Imagine if this student was running for a student government post and called his opponent an Atheist in religion and a Fanatic in politics. Would he get suspended? Alexander Hamilton used those exact words to describe Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson somehow managed to survive this attack and go on to become President. Should Hamilton have been required to wear his uncomfortable wool clothing for four days without the soft undergarments they used to wear because of his hazing and harassment of Jefferson? The only issue here is the hypersensitivity of people.

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this whole situation is pathetic and an embarrassment to the region.

It's pathetic and embarrassing to those at that school. Outside of that, nobody really cares.

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One thing that is getting lost in all of this is the assignment. I think it was a great assignment from the teacher. The poem itself, if you want to call it that, was below average. I'll give it a D. The only thing saving it from being an F is the kid actually turned in something.

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