UAZip0510 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 You must be family and the coach promised that to yall ??I am actually Keith Dambrot. Damnit, you caught me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sade281 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Lol...And I'm Terry Weigand the Assistant coach, Damnit!!! ???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkie330 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 He probably won't send immature PMs though ;-)Or run to his buddy and tell him.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 No, I'm not a family member I'm just speaking the truth... No one wants to give the freshman props because they are HIGH on Noah, so I'm wondering is any of you guys his family members? And last time I check nobody is promise a starting position...Who doesn't want to give Antino props? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsbabie Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Why do people keep saying Kretzer does little things that don't show up in the box score? You can not win games if someone is playing 30-35 minutes and can't make the box score! I'm willing to bet that Reggie is probably not liking that every time Jakes name is mentioned his is to like they are Siamese twins. They are clearly two different players, one has showed he can produce and one has not. At least not this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Why do people keep saying Kretzer does little things that don't show up in the box score? You can not win games if someone is playing 30-35 minutes and can't make the box score! I'm willing to bet that Reggie is probably not liking that every time Jakes name is mentioned his is to like they are Siamese twins. They are clearly two different players, one has showed he can produce and one has not. At least not this year.3rd best rebounder on the team this year, 2nd best on the current active roster with Pat out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Why do people keep saying Kretzer does little things that don't show up in the box score? You can not win games if someone is playing 30-35 minutes and can't make the box score! I'm willing to bet that Reggie is probably not liking that every time Jakes name is mentioned his is to like they are Siamese twins. They are clearly two different players, one has showed he can produce and one has not. At least not this year.First, I think you get the "Siamese Twin" idea because they are often referenced together, because they are our two wing players.I've often been critical of both of them this season, but I don't see your point in separating them with "one is productive, and one is not". I'm sure you're possibly only looking at scoring, where they are separated by only a little more than a point per game. And that's with Reggie's one 31-point effort figured into that. I love Reggie, but he's come up empty on many occasions this year. And Jake can do some other things for us that Reggie can't do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I also lump Reggie and Kretzer together because offensively their games are so similar. They do not have a post up game, do not have quick moves to the basket, almost never back door or make quick moves to the basket without the ball, never drive to the basket, and cannot create their own shot. Essentially, they are wing players who shoot the 3 ball. When you look at the season stats, Reggie has taken 151 shots, 131 have been the 3 ball. Kretzer has taken 129 shots, 104 have been the 3 ball. KD has always had wing players as part of his offense and that is their role Now the problem this year has been without Tree and Harney, we now have an overabundance of players who also like to shoot the 3.Kwan 127 of 242 have been 3 ballArron Jackson 52 of 82 have been 3 ball Evans 88 of 145 have been the 3 ball.That is why we are ranked 3rd in the nation in shooting the 3. The good news is now that we are down to 8 players, Reggie and Kretzer now seem to have the confidence of knowing that if they miss their 3 ball they will not get yanked and it has improved their shooting. Those guys have been consistently scoring the last 3 games with the short roster. If their good shooting continues we may be winning some games in the tournament especially with Antino, Big Dog, Diji and Kwan getting some inside points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Stats are not the most important thing. Stats paint part of the picture, but they don't tell you everything about a player.What is the zips record since Noah has been out and Antino has been starting? To me, wins matter more than stats.Don't get me wrong, I love Antino. I think he is a hell of a player, especially for a freshman. However, Noah is more of a complete player, more cerebral and a better floor General.I don't think that's a fair comparison...Noah's record is with Antino, and Antino's record is without Noah.On the road, at K.e.n.t, Antino had 16 points (4-6 from behind the arc), 7 assists (vs 2 turnovers) in 33 minutes. Committed only 2 fouls.Antino makes things happen. He's proven he can run the team under as adverse a set of conditions as you'll see in the MAC. He's a different style of point guard than Noah, but he's shown he can be equally as effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Where to start with Jake and Reggie? Neither is a star but both have played important roles in the Zips' 11-player (recently 8-player) rotation:Free throw shooting percentage: Jake is #1 at 93% and Reggie is tied with Noah for #2 at 75% as most reliable on the team.3-point shooting percentage: Reggie is #1 at 43.5% and Jake is #3 behind Noah at 35.6%.Turnovers per game: Reggie has the fewest of any Zips scholarship player and Jake is third best.Assists to turnovers: Reggie is #1 and Jake is #2.Steals per game: Jake is #4 and Reggie is #7.Rebounds per game: Jake is #3 and Reggie is #8.A good example of an intangible that doesn't show up in the stats would be hustle plays like saving a ball from going out of bounds, where Jake really excels. Jake is one of the Zips' floor burn leaders.Generally speaking, Reggie is a 3-point shooting specialist. His 43.5% 3-point shooting average would rank him #33 most accurate 3-point shooter in the country if he had the minimum number of attempts to qualify. At 18 minutes per game he's more of a role player. Jake averages 3rd most playing time as more of the team's glue guy. He's an all-around hustle player who's a reliable, steadying influence like Noah, which is especially important right now with Noah out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 I don't think that's a fair comparison...Noah's record is with Antino, and Antino's record is without Noah.On the road, at K.e.n.t, Antino had 16 points (4-6 from behind the arc), 7 assists (vs 2 turnovers) in 33 minutes. Committed only 2 fouls.Antino makes things happen. He's proven he can run the team under as adverse a set of conditions as you'll see in the MAC. He's a different style of point guard than Noah, but he's shown he can be equally as effective. Of course, Noah's adverse set of conditions included starting from day one (and playing 30 MPG) as a true freshman point guard on a team that was expected to win the division and lost their leader and best player after 2 games. He didn't have an opportunity to get his feet wet - he was thrown to the fire, and responded wonderfully.I'm beating a dead horse here but we should all be thrilled to have both. Together - Noah starting, Antino as 6th man - they are going to (along with Josh Williams) form of one, if not the best backcourt in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Antino:I am going to be watching, more than ever, his play over the next 1-5 games in the tournament. It seems as if his ability to accelerate on defenders in the paint may be starting to have an effect on our offensive production. He appears to give us a little more than Noah can give us in that department, especially if he continues to become more aware of the right thing to do with the ball once he gets there. I'm not making any argument for him to start, but he makes plays, and darn near played a perfect game on Friday if I take away a few very ill-advised shots he attempted near the basket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sade281 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Of course, Noah's adverse set of conditions included starting from day one (and playing 30 MPG) as a true freshman point guard on a team that was expected to win the division and lost their leader and best player after 2 games. He didn't have an opportunity to get his feet wet - he was thrown to the fire, and responded wonderfully.I'm beating a dead horse here but we should all be thrilled to have both. Together - Noah starting, Antino as 6th man - they are going to (along with Josh Williams) form of one, if not the best backcourt in the league.Maybe Noah the 6th man and Antino the starter.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Maybe Noah the starter at the Point and Antino the starter at the 2 more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Maybe Noah the 6th man and Antino the starter....If Noah is 100% healthy, he's the starter. It is possible they could both start and/or play a ton of minutes together, but Noah will be a 4 year starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sade281 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Haha haha you soo confident!!! ????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sade281 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 If Noah is 100% healthy, he's the starter. It is possible they could both start and/or play a ton of minutes together, but Noah will be a 4 year starter.Lol okay ????????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sade281 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Of course, Noah's adverse set of conditions included starting from day one (and playing 30 MPG) as a true freshman point guard on a team that was expected to win the division and lost their leader and best player after 2 games. He didn't have an opportunity to get his feet wet - he was thrown to the fire, and responded wonderfully.I'm beating a dead horse here but we should all be thrilled to have both. Together - Noah starting, Antino as 6th man - they are going to (along with Josh Williams) form of one, if not the best backcourt in the league.Stats don't lie!!?!! ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Again, I'm not sure why this has become Noah vs Antino. Having both young, talented PGs is going to make for a lot of fun the next three years. Tell Antino we believe in him this week! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsjunkie330 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Here's what I know....KD is paid a lot of money to coach UA basketball. Part of coaching is putting the best players on the field/floor that give you the best opportunity to win. I have a feeling that if Antino gives UA a better chance to win than Noah does (did), I'm pretty sure he would be the one "starting" and playing 30 minutes/game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Looks like Antino has a relative on the board 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipps Pop Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Well I guess not only do you not have knowledge of the game, you cant read either because I know I said in my 2nd post that maybe coach D does substitute but is not doing a very good job. As far as rebounds per game well you would think if you are playing wing or block that you would be at least 3rd leading rebounder Lol. and we are not even a great rebounding team production is the key to winning have a great evening buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipps Pop Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 That is the truth right there!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 Here's what I know....KD is paid a lot of money to coach UA basketball. Part of coaching is putting the best players on the field/floor that give you the best opportunity to win. I have a feeling that if Antino gives UA a better chance to win than Noah does (did), I'm pretty sure he would be the one "starting" and playing 30 minutes/game. 100% Correct. Especially when we are talking about freshman basketball players, I think it's pretty foolish to think that any new player has somehow secured his spot for his entire career. A lot can change with the way people play right now, this coming week, what happens over the next 6 months, and what happens over the next 3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 There are plenty of fans with favorite players who aren't necessarily relatives. Over the years we've had many fans on this forum who've lobbied for their favorite player to be a starter. I can see how a fan who's not a relative might pick Antino as their favorite and want him to be a starter. He's fun and exciting to watch.Honestly, I didn't think Antino had the stamina to play 30+ minutes per game. He has surprised me with his ability to play 30+ minutes and be fresh enough at the end to drive to the basket and nail 3s in addition to dishing to his teammates. How he, Noah, Josh and Jimond will divide the 1 and 2 guard positions next season will remain a hot topic of conversation. My best guess is that the starters at the beginning next season will be Noah at the 1 and Antino at the 2 in place of Nyles. Both Noah and Antino have proven they can effectively play 30+ minutes, so I'd expect to see both playing long minutes until Josh and Jimond prove themselves capable of earning more PT.One scenario that makes sense based on what we've seen from Antino over the last few games is to have him in the game in the closing minutes alongside Noah. Antino has shown that he's a pretty reliable shooter from both inside and out in crunch time. I think that Antino's energy and speed would be especially effective at the end of games where the opponents are a little worn down and might have trouble staying with him. Noah is also a good shooter, so having a pair of good-shooting PGs playing together at the end of games would present a lot of trouble for opponents.If having both Noah and Antino creates a big debate over which is better, that's a great "problem" for the Zips to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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