kreed5120 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 32 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: I think the next Dr. Z poll (K.e.n.t. game) should be: "Which percentage will be higher?" A.) The Zips 3-point percentage B.) The Zips free throw percentage C.) The Zips offensive conversion percentage within 2 feet of the hoop On a related note is there a rule that stipulates that you can't shoot your free throws from 3? If not, perhaps Reggie should step back a few feet and see if that works better for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: On a related note is there a rule that stipulates that you can't shoot your free throws from 3? If not, perhaps Reggie should step back a few feet and see if that works better for him. That's what we used to say every time Nick Goddard missed a free throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, ace said: You'd like the ivy league. Tournaments are fun but the regular season should mean more. I do like the Ivy league conceptually, but not having a tourney is probably just throwing $$$ away. I wouldn't want to do away with the conference tourney, just make it the second biggest prize. I understand why it is the way it is and why it could never happen. It just seems like it hurts the "one bid' leagues as far as making sure their best representative gets into the NCAA while it doesn't hurt the big name conferences at all, in fact conference tourneys often help them get even more teams in the Big Dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Is there anyone that really wants to trade experiencing a Zips 3-day ride through The Q...the bars, the environment, the excitement, the program exposure...does anyone want to fast-forward through all of that...just so they can watch the Zips lose in round #1 of the NCAA tourney? If we simply got a round #1 berth in the tourney for winning the MAC, how many awesome, memorable moments would you have been cheated from experiencing? Our days at The Q under Dambrot have been some of the absolute best experiences I've had as a Zips fan. Even the championship games we've lost have been exhilarating. The Ivy Leaugers may be able to work a protractor, but their 1965 approach to modern-day college basketball is cheating their fans. The MAC Tournament rules. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'd certainly want to watch a mid-major or one-bid league conference tourney than one for a conference where a multitude of teams are getting in regardless. It just means more. North Carolina and Duke can meet in the ACC final and it can be a greatly contested game but in the end the loser is still going to the NCAA with a chance to make a deep run. To me that just makes the championship game not mean as much. I'll only watch P5 conference tourney games if one or both of the teams need to win to get to the NCAA because those are the games that can have a ripple effect all across the country on who gets in and who doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Even a few former basketball coaches that are on ESPN have commented about how great the MAC tournament is, and mid Maoris tournaments in general. They're great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) 34 minutes ago, GJGood said: I'd certainly want to watch a mid-major or one-bid league conference tourney than one for a conference where a multitude of teams are getting in regardless. It just means more. North Carolina and Duke can meet in the ACC final and it can be a greatly contested game but in the end the loser is still going to the NCAA with a chance to make a deep run. To me that just makes the championship game not mean as much. I'll only watch P5 conference tourney games if one or both of the teams need to win to get to the NCAA because those are the games that can have a ripple effect all across the country on who gets in and who doesn't. I would by no means say P5 tournaments are as meaningless as you lead on. They do a great deal towards impacting seeding, which can be more impactful than deciding between 2 teams to determine which 1 is going to be a 12 seed play-in team and which ones going to the NIT. Nobody wants the best 2 teams to meet in the elite then have to settle for some dull final as an undeserving team made it because they had an easy bracket. Edit: History shows that no 16 has beaten a 1. We have seen a 15 can beat a 2 (Happened 3x in past 4 years). Winning a P5 conference tournament might be the difference b/w a near guaranteed 1st round win or a humiliating 1st round exit. Edited March 2, 2016 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 8 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: I would by no means say P5 tournaments are as meaningless as you lead on. They do a great deal towards impacting seeding, which can be more impactful than deciding between 2 teams to determine which 1 is going to be a 12 seed play-in team and which ones going to the NIT. Nobody wants the best 2 teams to meet in the elite then have to settle for some dull final as an undeserving team made it because they had an easy bracket. I get what you are saying but is there really that much to be learned from two top 15 teams meeting for the third time in a season that wasn't already known from their first two meetings? Can it change seeding? Sure. Ultimately, though, seeding is the committee's responsibility and they have to make judgments all the time comparing teams from different conferences. If they can seed teams relative to each other that never played each other why do they need a third meeting between teams that already met twice to do the same thing? To me a much, much bigger deal is who gets in than where they are seeded. Yes seedings determine the matchups but the games are really more about how styles match up than it is about overall body of work which the seedings are based on. For example, I still state that out of Akron's 4 NCAA appearances the best matchup they had was the one with Notre Dame. That also happened to be a 2 vs. 15 game according to seedings. Akron was far more overmatched when they played Gonzaga and VCU even though the seeding wouldn't have agreed with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, GJGood said: I get what you are saying but is there really that much to be learned from two top 15 teams meeting for the third time in a season that wasn't already known from their first two meetings? Can it change seeding? Sure. Ultimately, though, seeding is the committee's responsibility and they have to make judgments all the time comparing teams from different conferences. If they can seed teams relative to each other that never played each other why do they need a third meeting between teams that already met twice to do the same thing? To me a much, much bigger deal is who gets in than where they are seeded. Yes seedings determine the matchups but the games are really more about how styles match up than it is about overall body of work which the seedings are based on. For example, I still state that out of Akron's 4 NCAA appearances the best matchup they had was the one with Notre Dame. That also happened to be a 2 vs. 15 game according to seedings. Akron was far more overmatched when they played Gonzaga and VCU even though the seeding wouldn't have agreed with that. A 16 has never beaten a 1 seed. We have seen 3 15 seeds beat a 2 seed in just the last 4 years. Perhaps had Duke positioned themselves as a 1 seed, they wouldn't have been humiliated and positioned themselves for a deep tourney run. I feel conference tournaments do a good job of rewarding teams that are playing their best at the end of the season. Perhaps some team was great until their star got injured with 2 games left in the season. That team is no longer as good as what their resume at the end of the regular season suggests. The conference tournament helps correct it some so they more accurately get seeded. Edited March 2, 2016 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I don't disagree. I just think it is much more intriguing to watch a conference tourney like the MAAC this year. Monmouth may be in position for an at-large bid but every other team in their conference tournament knows they must win the title to make the NCAA. That makes every game "do or die" in a sense but you still know that the best team in the league still has a legitimate shot to get in even if they stumble. You also know that some team that finished 5th in the conference regular season and bowed out in the conference tourney semifinals is not going to get in to the Big Dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 (edited) Big Dog will have one less Big Man to play against next year, Antonio Campbell just declared for the NBA draft. Edited April 14, 2016 by MDZip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 He didn't hire an agent, so I'm assuming he'll be back. After watching him against Big Dog this year, there's not a chance in my mind he's ready for the NBA. I don't think it'd be a half bad idea for Big Dog to do the same and get the experience of the camps and going against future NBA players 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, MDZip said: Big Dog will have one less Big Man to play against next year, Antonio Campbell just declared for the NBA draft. I believe with the new rules, all eligible players can declare, and if they do not hire an agent, are permitted to retract the declaration by a certain deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 12 minutes ago, LZIp said: I believe with the new rules, all eligible players can declare, and if they do not hire an agent, are permitted to retract the declaration by a certain deadline. That's actually not new. I believe you can do it twice now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 19 minutes ago, zippy5 said: He didn't hire an agent, so I'm assuming he'll be back. After watching him against Big Dog this year, there's not a chance in my mind he's ready for the NBA. I don't think it'd be a half bad idea for Big Dog to do the same and get the experience of the camps and going against future NBA players DITTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 I can't find anything on this - did he stay in the draft or come back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyfan34 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 Campbell and Hall withdraw from draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 19 minutes ago, zippyfan34 said: Campbell and Hall withdraw from draft It was inevitable. When you see guys such as Trimble from Maryland pulling out of the draft, you realize that these two guys had ZERO chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 24, 2016 Report Share Posted June 24, 2016 There we go - figured there was no way they would stay in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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