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zippy5 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 40 minutes ago, LZIp said: Another embarrassing error by GT? Color me shocked. Speaking of the ABJ, Jason Lloyd is leaving them for some media start up called The Athletic, whose business model seems sketchy at best. The sole revenue source is dependent on paid subscriptions. Not a good sign when one of your top talents is taking such a risky move to get out. The Athletic is run by James Mirtle and has the same format as DK Pittsburgh Sports which has been very successful by any measure. I would expect the Athletic to be even Better, Mirtle is a smart smart guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted February 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 The location of the MAC tourney is not important to GT as he'll be covering it from his recliner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 hours ago, LZIp said: Another embarrassing error by GT? Color me shocked. Speaking of the ABJ, Jason Lloyd is leaving them for some media start up called The Athletic, whose business model seems sketchy at best. The sole revenue source is dependent on paid subscriptions. Not a good sign when one of your top talents is taking such a risky move to get out. Ah, I was a little confused by your comments at first. By "sketchy" you mean risky. When I hear "sketchy" I think "shady," or under-handed. A sight that depends upon paid subscriptions as opposed to advertising revenue would be forced to produce a quality product, as opposed to simply baiting for clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: Ah, I was a little confused by your comments at first. By "sketchy" you mean risky. When I hear "sketchy" I think "shady," or under-handed. A sight that depends upon paid subscriptions as opposed to advertising revenue would be forced to produce a quality product, as opposed to simply baiting for clicks. Well...I think I am using "sketchy" in the sense that the business model just not make sense to me.I linked a pretty good article below from Forbes detailing it.Seems they are mostly running on investor money for the time being, which is understandable to start. They expect to turn a profit in Chicago and give it about a 50% chance to be profitable in Toronto in 2017. They are also reporting 6 figure revenue, which could mean 100k or 900k. Either is pretty small I think. The 50% chance to turn profitability in a market of 6 million people does not seem like a good sign to me either. There are 4 teams in Toronto - the Raptors, Blue Jays, Maple Leafs, and Toronto FC. Meaning they need 8,000 subscribers in a market of 6 million people, or roughly 1/10th of 1% to turn a profit and they are not sure if they can do it. They are saying they need a little under 2,000 subscribers PER team PER market to turn a profit. So Jason Llloyd, the Cavs beat writer, himself needs 2,000 subscribers and those subscribers would generate a whole 100k in revenue. Now I'm not a genius but in the NBA season you have 41 away games, plus playoff away games, plus a few preseason away/across the state games. Heck..you could even throw in summer league games if they want to send him there. I'd have to be convinced that all of that travel isn't close to 100k in itself across a whole season. And I sure doubt Lloyd is jumping ship for to work for free or a pay decrease. FINALLY they are getting some good writers, I will admit that. HOWEVER, why would I or anyone pay for their analysis when you can get it for free from various other sources? Its not like whoever now writing for The Athletic all of the sudden has access to insider information that will make people want to pay for their service. http://www.forbes.com/sites/darrenheitner/2017/01/10/why-2-1-million-was-invested-in-a-sports-news-subscription-site/#c1405e142c41 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) @LZIp DKPS that I cited earlier has over 30K subscriptions. I don't think 2K per team should be too hard if they have good content. Dejan is a little bit of a different case as he was a mainstay in the Pittsburgh media for years, so Lloyd going there won't have as many loyal readers as DK had to follow him. Anyway, getting off topic here. Edited February 21, 2017 by zippy5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Josh good to go tonight? Looked like he did a number on that ankle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipfan84 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 10 hours ago, skip-zip said: Uh Oh. Does our ticket office know this? Does anyone know if we can get similar seating in the new location? Seriously now. Have we finally had enough, and will finally show our outrage and demand more? Is UA Athletics going to tolerate this anymore and start demanding more? This has gotten beyond intolerable. And it just seems to get worse. It's pure garbage. It has to end. Facts are overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 1 hour ago, zipfan84 said: Facts are overrated. If I were wanting to pile on, I could also point out that it says that the MAC Tournament is the "first week of March", in that same sentence where it says that it's being played at Cleveland State. I surely wouldn't call March 7th to March 11th the First Week of March. I think that would mislead people, although it's surely technically the month's first FULL week. Maybe if they were really concerned about accuracy and being informative to their readership, just stating the dates would have been the best option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, skip-zip said: If I were wanting to pile on, I could also point out that it says that the MAC Tournament is the "first week of March", in that same sentence where it says that it's being played at Cleveland State. I surely wouldn't call March 7th to March 11th the First Week of March. I think that would mislead people, although it's surely technically the month's first FULL week. Maybe if they were really concerned about accuracy and being informative to their readership, just stating the dates would have been the best option? Nah then you might have to use the research tool "Google" and discover the actual dates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) I'm not seeing Akron listed on ESPN3. You guys see it? Edit: Nvm I see it now. Edited February 22, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: I'm not seeing Akron listed on ESPN3. You guys see it? Edit: Nvm I see it now. I see it, but there is no game on my feed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Of course the feed is screwed up. What else is new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Did the game actually start? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyYo Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: Of course the feed is screwed up. What else is new. I don't think the game has started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Looks like the answer was no. Premature complaining from you guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 After the Dayton game ended, we have 5 minutes of commercials and then a Spectrum Sports update. It then joined the Akron game already in progress. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Great to see KD going to his bench early and Utomi is the first sub into the game. Kwan starting out hot shooting. Good sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Oh Boy. Ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Gone cold. Now down 8. Offense out of sync. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 So many turnovers. We're usually good at protecting the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HenryMuto Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 14-0 BG wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Josh is definitely OUT for tonight. Just in case nobody heard that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 We blew our wad too early in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted February 22, 2017 Report Share Posted February 22, 2017 Also Frye for BG looks like a HS freshman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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