zippy5 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: This really comes down to recruiting. KD recruited role players. Get a big man, regardless of actual ability (Zeke, And this is where I quit reading 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, zippy5 said: And this is where I quit reading Everyone has an opinion. This is mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I was daydreaming about how awesome this is and then I looked at the clock and realized it's 12:57pm and.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, NWAkron said: I was daydreaming about how awesome this is and then I looked at the clock and realized it's 12:57pm and.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 hours ago, Gallucci said: NCAA Tournament games Groce will win at Akron in the next 5 years I would say 0, and if you were to ask how many MAC Tournaments he will win I would say 1 or 2 tops. So basically the same thing we had with KD, no change. I'll take a chance on no-change basically the same, with the possibility of elevating the program because of something new. In fact, I think I'm a little more energized/excited about Zips basketball (on the anticipation alone) to see what is in store for the Zips. I enjoyed KD's run while he was here, but now that he's officially gone I'm looking forward to something new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, Balsy said: So basically the same thing we had with KD, no change. I'll take a chance on no-change basically the same, with the possibility of elevating the program because of something new. In fact, I think I'm a little more energized/excited about Zips basketball (on the anticipation alone) to see what is in store for the Zips. I enjoyed KD's run while he was here, but now that he's officially gone I'm looking forward to something new. 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Gallucci said: What is uneducated about it? All I have said about Groce is that for those of you expecting NCAA tournament wins you might want to dial it back NCAA tournament wins are what we SHOULD be expecting when we hire a new coach. Otherwise, why hire him? Will it happen? That remains to be seen, but if we want to move forward as a program, we should be setting our sights higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Gallucci please stop being a concerned troll. We all have our eyes wide open about expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) So, how many players getting arrested are you guys willing to tolerate per season? If it's anything less than two, you might end up disappointed Edited April 5, 2017 by ZachTheZip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 So Zach used the Google to find something else not to like about Groce. How many guys were arrested while he coached OU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 16 minutes ago, ZachTheZip said: So, how many players getting arrested are you guys willing to tolerate per season? If it's anything less than two, you might end up disappointed Tolerate? I look forward to it. The season is boring if you don't have multiple suspended players for different games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, zippy5 said: So Zach used the Google to find something else not to like about Groce. How many guys were arrested while he coached OU? Armon Bassett, right off the top of my head. But more relevant is the five arrests his players had while he at Illinois. If anything, the problem has increased over time. The only thing stopping me from thinking it will continue to increase is that it's already at such a high level that it would be difficult to do much worse. Edited April 5, 2017 by ZachTheZip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Thanks for the hot tip. You might want to be a "concerned fan" and email the AD and President Wilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, ZachTheZip said: Armon Bassett, right off the top of my head. But more relevant is the five arrests his players had while he at Illinois. If anything, the problem has increased over time. The only thing stopping me from thinking it will continue to increase is that it's already at such a high level that it would be difficult to do much worse. I happen to think our players on the roster are of high character and am offended that you think they are going to get arrested/into trouble simply because we have a new coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, LZIp said: I happen to think our players on the roster are of high character and am offended that you think they are going to get arrested/into trouble simply because we have a new coach. Never said that the current players would get arrested. But Groce has a lot of holes to fill on the roster, and the ability to stay out of jail is clearly not a priority in his recruiting strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Little did we know he recruits county jails instead of JUCOs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, ZachTheZip said: Armon Bassett, right off the top of my head. But more relevant is the five arrests his players had while he at Illinois. If anything, the problem has increased over time. The only thing stopping me from thinking it will continue to increase is that it's already at such a high level that it would be difficult to do much worse. For part two of our exercise, how many Akron players were arrested under KD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: For part two of our exercise, how many Akron players were arrested under KD? AA Not "arrested" but gone for the season due to off Court activities that were maybe not totally "legal": Tree Diggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Abreu was most certainly arrested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 41 minutes ago, ZachTheZip said: So, how many players getting arrested are you guys willing to tolerate per season? If it's anything less than two, you might end up disappointed Boyza vil be boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 It's funny we're talking about this because earlier today, I sent this to a few people: "If someone would have told me after the 2012 MAC Championship game, that in 5 years Dambrot would leave for Duquesne and Groce would be the next Akron coach, I would have told you 'Who's your dealer?" A couple of them answered back: "Those people would say that their dealer is Alex Abreu" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Abreu was most certainly arrested That is what I said. Followed by the other two who apparently were not, but still charged by the University. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, akronzips71 said: That is what I said. Followed by the other two who apparently were not, but still charged by the University. Ah I misread your post, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I thought Zach tweeted that he was done supporting Akron basketball? Groce has had a couple players with questionable character, but Dambrot had his share too. Harney, Tree, Diggs, Abreu are the 4 that come to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 The reality is that "at risk" kids are generally better basketball players than altar boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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