Oldschool Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: If we're talking UT-Martin coaches, Heath Schoyer would seem the better choice. He inherited a team that went a combined 21-71 in the 3 years prior to him taking over and in year 1 he turned them into a 21-13 team and 41-28 as his 2 years as head coach before taking the assistant job at NC State. Stewart inherited what Schoyer built. Schroyer brought Stewart to UT Martin from Ohio U. Stewart was the associate head coach and recruiting coordinator. So yes he did inherit a team. A team that he assembled himself. Not a coincidence that UT Martin had the most successful year in school history with several Ohio kids on the roster. Ohio has always been a strong point for Stewart. Plus I looked up Schroyer. He's been a head coach for 9 years and has a losing record. The only 2 winning seasons he's had is when Stewart came to UT Martin from Ohio U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, a-zip said: I am well aware of what the Acme-Zip game was. Yes, it was well attended but rarely went over 30K. The Acme-Zip game actually AVERAGED 30k over it's 40+ year existence, with as many as 43k (the record). So, I don't know where you got that information. I wasn't trying to change your opinion. I was just correcting some of your facts about football attendance, Gerry's "blank check", and when Huggins was here. And I know players from that era who still talk about driving their own cars to practices at the Rubber Bowl, but it's really insignificant to the facts if many of them took a bus instead of a car. I was making a point about the lack of a campus practice area. There's actually some things in your original post that I can agree with. Edited March 29, 2017 by skip-zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 OU fans on their board credited most of their recruiting efforts to Stewart for what it's worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipsbasketball Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Found this on Coach Stewart from UT Martin. Take a read. Wow!!!!! https://mobile.twitter.com/collegeinsider/status/793132851860533248 http://www.utmsports.com/story/9566 http://www.utmsports.com/fullstory.cfm?id=9563&sport=men's basketball Looked at their message board and found out that Coach Stewart has a son that was named Mr. basketball for Tennessee this year. He is signed to play in the SEC and had over 40 high major offers. Apparently he was born and raised in Akron and Akron was his dream school growing up!!!!!!!! I'm liking this guy a lot more as I learn about him. Even though I'm a St. V grad (Stewart graduated from Hoban) LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Zipsbasketball said: Found this on Coach Stewart from UT Martin. Take a read. Wow!!!!! https://mobile.twitter.com/collegeinsider/status/793132851860533248 http://www.utmsports.com/story/9566 http://www.utmsports.com/fullstory.cfm?id=9563&sport=men's basketball Looked at their message board and found out that Coach Stewart has a son that was named Mr. basketball for Tennessee this year. He is signed to play in the SEC and had over 40 high major offers. Apparently he was born and raised in Akron and Akron was his dream school growing up!!!!!!!! I'm liking this guy a lot more as I learn about him. Even though I'm a St. V grad (Stewart graduated from Hoban) LOL!!! I am assuming you mean Parker Stewart. 247 only shows 13 offers, but that is besides the point. If what you say/read was true, then I am disappointed we didn't even try to recruit a kid as talented as him whose dream growing up was to play at Akron.... http://247sports.com/player/parker-stewart-86699 Edited March 29, 2017 by LZIp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris buttermaker Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 9 hours ago, a-zip said: I seriously don't understand. If someone could explain it to me I will drop it. I don't see a logical marketing study or trend to justify "that stadium" as much as I love it. All you have to do is look at the statistics around UA sports attendance, MAC attendance from the last 30 years. When has there ever been over 30K come to a UA football game? EVER!! So why would you build a luxurious stadium that big? I think part of the reason for building a large stadium would be to satisfy D1 attendance requirements. If you build a 18,000-20,000 seat stadium, you lack the "extra seats" you will probably need-- to manipulate your avg attendance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, morris buttermaker said: I think part of the reason for building a large stadium would be to satisfy D1 attendance requirements. If you build a 18,000-20,000 seat stadium, you lack the "extra seats" you will probably need-- to manipulate your avg attendance Yep, tough to put imagined butts in imagined seats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Oldschool said: Schroyer brought Stewart to UT Martin from Ohio U. Stewart was the associate head coach and recruiting coordinator. So yes he did inherit a team. A team that he assembled himself. Not a coincidence that UT Martin had the most successful year in school history with several Ohio kids on the roster. Ohio has always been a strong point for Stewart. Plus I looked up Schroyer. He's been a head coach for 9 years and has a losing record. The only 2 winning seasons he's had is when Stewart came to UT Martin from Ohio U. If what you say is true about him being the one responsible for the turnaround, then yes he seems much more appealing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Dix Stadium - 20,500 Doyt Perrty - 23,724 Yager - 30,012 Info - 30,000 Peden -24,000 UB Stadium - 29,031 Glass Bowl - apparently 26k, but had record 37k once. Husky stadium - 24,000 Kelly Shorts - 30,255 Rynearson - 30,200 Scheumann - 22,500 Waldo - 30,200 Looks like we have a pretty middle of the road sized stadium compared to our peers. Seems reasonable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Quote InfoCision Stadium holds 27,000 spectators in traditional seating with an additional 3,000 the grassy knoll on the south end of the stadium It's a 27,000 traditional seat stadium with 3,000 SRO. One could argue (I wouldn't disagree with) that perhaps it should have been only 22,000 with the 3,000 SRO for a total of 25,000 available tickets. I'm not in the construction business so I'd have no idea how much that would have saved costs. In the grand scheme of things universities are in the business of spending more money than they need to on projects, but at same time Infocision is still relatively cheap compared to what other modern FBS stadiums cost so the university did show some restraint. Edited March 29, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 22 minutes ago, LZIp said: Dix Stadium - 20,500 Doyt Perrty - 23,724 Yager - 30,012 Info - 30,000 Peden -24,000 UB Stadium - 29,031 Glass Bowl - apparently 26k, but had record 37k once. Husky stadium - 24,000 Kelly Shorts - 30,255 Rynearson - 30,200 Scheumann - 22,500 Waldo - 30,200 Looks like we have a pretty middle of the road sized stadium compared to our peers. Seems reasonable to me. And that's why the MAC is what it is in basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Don't you need a minimum of 25K seats for FBS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Don't you need a minimum of 25K seats for FBS? Nope, 15K Edited March 29, 2017 by mes102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, mes102 said: Nope, 15K Hmm thought I remembered something from when we built the Info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Don't you need a minimum of 25K seats for FBS? I could be wrong, but pretty sure you just have to average 15,000 every other year. I'm counting 15 FBS stadiums that seat under 25k https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_stadiums Edited March 29, 2017 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Yeah, I want to say it's for newly built stadiums. Almost all of those were 1-AA and moved up. I could be totally mis-remembering too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, mes102 said: And that's why the MAC is what it is in basketball. Before the Info, the next newest stadium was built in 1993 and the one before that was 1983. Most of the rest were built in the 60s or much earlier. I really don't think that is having much of an affect at all on the quality of MAC basketball. Even so, MAC football is much more respected than MAC basketball and I don't see why that has to be a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Here is a thousand post thread (Stadium Cams are Live) to remind anyone who forgot what the stadium climate was a decade ago. Scarborough could have educated himself in an hour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, LZIp said: Before the Info, the next newest stadium was built in 1993 and the one before that was 1983. Most of the rest were built in the 60s or much earlier. I really don't think that is having much of an affect at all on the quality of MAC basketball. Even so, MAC football is much more respected than MAC basketball and I don't see why that has to be a bad thing. The cost of maintenance alone compared to the revenue of attendance and vendors isn't enough. It wouldn't surprise me if that's in the red for almost all schools. Using money for half-filled stadiums(if that), is taking money away from basketball budgets in my opinion. That's what I meant by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 (edited) Size matters also in visual effect for recruit visits and for getting the Indiana's, Pitt's and Iowa State's to come here. Football and basketball. Edited March 29, 2017 by ZippyRulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 26 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said: Size matters also in visual effect for recruit visits and for getting the Indiana's, Pitt's and Iowa State's to come here. Football and basketball. At same time I feel it hurts attendance as it destroys the atmosphere. People are so spread out that even when we pull a decent crowd, the stadium looks empty. Not that it matters for football as we'll always have a huge surplus of tickets available , but in sports like basketball limiting supply can actually positively influence demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 If we had only built a 9100 seat stadium, we would be able to brag about sellouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 Looks like Miami has been reading our posts on here. Jokes aside, that tells me that we may be competing for some of the same candidates. Hope we're already making phone calls.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, LZIp said: Dix Stadium - 20,500 Doyt Perrty - 23,724 Yager - 30,012 Info - 30,000 Peden -24,000 UB Stadium - 29,031 Glass Bowl - apparently 26k, but had record 37k once. Husky stadium - 24,000 Kelly Shorts - 30,255 Rynearson - 30,200 Scheumann - 22,500 Waldo - 30,200 Looks like we have a pretty middle of the road sized stadium compared to our peers. Seems reasonable to me. So, where are your numbers on the percentage of those seats that have been filled in the last 1, 5, 10 years (average attendance)? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZip0510 Posted March 29, 2017 Report Share Posted March 29, 2017 2 hours ago, LZIp said: I am assuming you mean Parker Stewart. 247 only shows 13 offers, but that is besides the point. If what you say/read was true, then I am disappointed we didn't even try to recruit a kid as talented as him whose dream growing up was to play at Akron.... http://247sports.com/player/parker-stewart-86699 Why make that assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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