RowdyZip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I'm not going to get overly excited over this one. It was a great win, no doubt. Unexpected? Absolutely. Now, beat Toledo and I'm going to be losing my mind with excitement. Even if it's a very close game, I'll be ready to talk about a MAC East Championship possibility and a trip to Detroit. The fact of the matter is, we should all still be trying to get a read on this team. They're definitely improving, but what's our ceiling? Like last year, I could see us going anywhere from 9-3 to 5-7. In fact, we'll probably only be favored to win in 2 of our remaining games (Buffalo and Kent). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Our DL impressed me yesterday. Was Copeland playing some DE yesterday (my video feed cut out)? I believe I saw Copeland, Boxen & Camara in the game at the same time. Frenchy mentioned at one crucial point pretty late in the game that our DL was entirely city alumni. That would have to have been Deon'Tae Moore & Justin Sampson at DE & Brennan Williams & DeAndre Brimage at DT. That speaks highly of true frosh Sampson & Brim that they're getting meaningful PT late in a 1-point game against one of the best teams in the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 It’s hard to tell sometimes how the offensive line is performing by watching on ?, but I think Brandon Council deserves a shout out for a job well done as far as I could tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Letuli stuck out in a bad way yesterday, but it seems like an anomaly compared to the rest of the season as he has been mostly good/above average. i think we can all agree that this isn't some giant win. Good to great win sure. Point is, I'm seeing a lot of alumni who never give a crap any other time show some excitement over it. I'd imagine it has to do a lot with WMU's 2016 season. Let's keep it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 It's the 2nd biggest win we've had in the past 10 years. Use whatever adjective you'd like to describe it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 24 minutes ago, RowdyZip said: In fact, we'll probably only be favored to win in 2 of our remaining games (Buffalo and Kent). Have you seen Miami spiraling down the toilet, or are they too far down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, LZIp said: Letuli stuck out in a bad way yesterday, but it seems like an anomaly compared to the rest of the season as he has been mostly good/above average. i think we can all agree that this isn't some giant win. Good to great win sure. Point is, I'm seeing a lot of alumni who never give a crap any other time show some excitement over it. I'd imagine it has to do a lot with WMU's 2016 season. Let's keep it up! I think the film will show that Letuli got hosed on 2 of those calls. We won the only place that counts. I think its true that one learns more in defeat than in victory; so, we have an opportunity to learn much from this game. Early in the game, we took advantage of the situation. At the end, 5 found a way to seal the deal. We won the close one. We are right on track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 58 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Upsetting a quality team like WMU doesn't mean a whole lot if we turn around and lose to a terrible team like Kent later in the season. I know. We always seem just as susceptible to the unexpected loss, as we are to benefit from an unexpected win. Actually, maybe that makes us no different than any of the other D-1 teams in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 In my eyes this was our best win under Bowden. We beat a 6-7 Utah State team in a glorified exhibition. This WMU team is a much better team in my eyes and puts us in a place to actually contend for a MAC Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 We should be favored over Kent, Miami, and Buffalo to varying degrees, and we get Ohio at home. I like our chances to at least get to a bowl game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ham said: I think the film will show that Letuli got hosed on 2 of those calls. The "moving the pile" personal foul penalty was as bogus as it was crippling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 18 minutes ago, zippy5 said: It's the 2nd biggest win we've had in the past 10 years. Use whatever adjective you'd like to describe it Some don't want to acknowledge it, but this is true. However, maybe that's more of a testament to the quality of our victories during that time, rather than a testament to the magnitude of this particular victory. But I'm taking it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: In my eyes this was our best win under Bowden. We beat a 6-7 Utah State team in a glorified exhibition. You obviously weren't in Pittsburgh for the big win over the Panthers at Heinz Field in 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, skip-zip said: You obviously weren't in Pittsburgh for the big win over the Panthers at Heinz Field in 2014. Okay, that one slipped my mind. I agree that win was better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: In my eyes this was our best win under Bowden. We beat a 6-7 Utah State team in a glorified exhibition. Utah State was 6-6 entering the game. The only reason you'd want to state they were 6-7 is if you wanted to diminish the win. The "glorified exhibition," just for clarification, is also known as a "bowl game." The only reason you'd call it otherwise is if you wanted to diminish the win. Amazing that our own fans want to diminish an Akron Zips bowl win. I liked that 2015 Zips team, and appreciate the bowl victory. I thought it was awesome. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: Have you seen Miami spiraling down the toilet, or are they too far down? Just a glimmer at the bottom of the bowl. You might be right, but I still think that'll be a close call being on the road (PK or +/- 3). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsVoice Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, LZIp said: Letuli stuck out in a bad way yesterday, but it seems like an anomaly compared to the rest of the season as he has been mostly good/above average I agree....I was screaming at Jovan during his unfortunate series of downs early, but he has had a solid season so far, and it was out of frustration that human nature "motivated" me to write about screaming in his earhole.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 36 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: Utah State was 6-6 entering the game. The only reason you'd want to state they were 6-7 is if you wanted to diminish the win. The "glorified exhibition," just for clarification, is also known as a "bowl game." The only reason you'd call it otherwise is if you wanted to diminish the win. Amazing that our own fans want to diminish an Akron Zips bowl win. I liked that 2015 Zips team, and appreciate the bowl victory. I thought it was awesome. Yeah I had the bowl game as #1. I was at the Pitt game. Yesterday was a bigger win as far as I'm concerned. Both very nice notches on the progrum's belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: Utah State was 6-6 entering the game. The only reason you'd want to state they were 6-7 is if you wanted to diminish the win. The "glorified exhibition," just for clarification, is also known as a "bowl game." The only reason you'd call it otherwise is if you wanted to diminish the win. Amazing that our own fans want to diminish an Akron Zips bowl win. I liked that 2015 Zips team, and appreciate the bowl victory. I thought it was awesome. Nice of you to try to insinuate what I'm thinking... Nothing you said has anything to do with what I'm saying. I stated Utah State was a 6-7 team because that's indeed what they finished the season being. Math can be hard but if a team enters a game 6-6 and loses, they are now 6-7. Had they beat us I'd say we lost to a 7-6 team. My gripe with the bowl system is completely unrelated to Zips football. Once upon a time making a bowl was a great reward. Now making a bowl game should be bare minimum expectation as over 60% of teams make bowls. We literally have 5-7 teams making bowl games these days. I complain about the NBA playoff system too for the same reason, its too inclusive. At the end of the day competing and winning in the MAC is more important to me than beating some random 6-6 (as you put it) non P5 team in some obscure bowl. I'll take beating the Toledo's and Western Michigan's any day of the week over beating Utah State. For the record I did enjoy beating Utah State. I just enjoyed beating WMU more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Once upon a time making a bowl was a great reward. I still believe making a bowl is a nice reward. The players enjoy it, the team gets extra practices, and I'm sure it's a good recruiting tool. Not to mention, as a fan, I get to see my favorite team play another game. This is probably why coach Bowden puts such a high priority, and talks so much about becoming bowl edible each year. I wonder what a player that played in the Pitt, WMU and Utah game would say his favorite victory was? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: I stated Utah State was a 6-7 team because that's indeed what they finished the season being. Math can be hard but if a team enters a game 6-6 and loses, they are now 6-7. Had they beat us I'd say we lost to a 7-6 team. So if the Zips beat 13-0 Ohio State in the Rose Bowl, we'd have beaten 13-1 Ohio State? Ok... Only the talking heads on TV who have hours to fill for their vapid audience care about too many bowl games. There may be too many reality TV shows on the air...but I could care less because I don't watch them. If you hate that there's too much football to watch in December and January, you don't need to watch it. Watch the Food Network. Bowl games are crucial to MAC football programs. There was a time, not too long ago, when 10-2 MAC programs went nowhere for the post season. They went home. Now there are bowl tie-ins to reward good seasons. I couldn't be happier. I enjoy watching football, so I like bowl games.They're always a lot of fun to watch. And I'm happy players and coaches get rewarded for a solid season . I saw videos of the Zips team in Boise, and it looked like they were having a blast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: I saw videos of the Zips team in Boise, and it looked like they were having a blast. The players I know put the bowl game at the top of the list. The rings they received for that season were very important to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 This win was great and may be the key win of the season, but the bowl game was bigger for the overall football program. One was nationally televised, the other was streamed on a webcam at the same time as the NFL. From the perspective of wins catching recruits attention, this last game might as well not have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 I also noticed, on a number of ocassions, Tommy trying to block for the RB. I am not sure if it was the different camera angle, but I have never noticed it before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, ZachTheZip said: From the perspective of wins catching recruits attention, this last game might as well not have happened. I would disagree. I'm sure any HS recruit considering the Zips took note of the win. And any committed recruits possibly wavering on their decision felt a little bit more secure...or even excited about their it. Milestone win for the Zips. Assuming they finish the season strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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