GP1 Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Big Ten/NBC $7B Media Deal Hits Turbulence This is quite the situation. Combined, the Big Ten schools will have to pay back $65M. The value on the deal is in flux (tens of millions - estimated $70M+ which is $5M per school) due to availability of schools for primetime games. Kevin Warren left for a job with the Chicago Bears, and the new commissioner - Tony Petitti - is scrambling to keep this deal together with as much original value as possible. All the while pissing off coaches with poor communication about schedules, etc. Also, PAC12's new media deal is not looking great. TV money is interesting, but at what level is it irrelevant? The ACC has an awful TV deal, but they continue to complete well against the other conferences across sports and classroom measureables. It makes me wonder if you don't have to have the most money, but if your conference falls into a certain range of money per school you can remain competitive. Athletic Directors, in their pursuit to destroy their employers, get publicly upset about TV deals. Makes me wonder if it's just another ploy to get taxpayers to pay to pad their resumes. Edited May 23, 2023 by GP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 2 hours ago, GP1 said: TV money is interesting, but at what level is it irrelevant? The ACC has an awful TV deal, but they continue to complete well against the other conferences across sports and classroom measureables. It makes me wonder if you don't have to have the most money, but if your conference falls into a certain range of money per school you can remain competitive. Athletic Directors, in their pursuit to destroy their employers, get publicly upset about TV deals. Makes me wonder if it's just another ploy to get taxpayers to pay to pad their resumes. The ACC has the worst worst TV deal of the P5s in terms of money per school, but still distributes $17M annually to each school (14). The AAC is next with $7M per school. The MAC is next with $600k per school. By George, I think you've cracked the code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: The ACC has the worst worst TV deal of the P5s in terms of money per school, but still distributes $17M annually to each school (14). The AAC is next with $7M per school. The MAC is next with $600k per school. By George, I think you've cracked the code. Each ACC school brings in $30-$35 million per year off the ACC Network. Roughly one half of the Big Ten. Edited May 23, 2023 by GP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted June 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 Colorado & Arizona In Talks To Join Big 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Colorado & Arizona In Talks To Join Big 12 I love the Zips, but as a whole, the world of college football is a disaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted June 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, GoZips86 said: I love the Zips, but as a whole, the world of college football is a disaster *West coast college football is a disaster. The east coast/midwest/south regions dominate the media markets, which is the PAC 12 is essentially folding into the Big Ten/Big 12. They want a piece of the pie they can't get with the PAC 12. The only geographic "what the Hells" are USC/UCLA to the Big Ten. Otherwise, every other move has made sense. Arizona is a little questionable but still not wild. Edit: thought of some questions I have about the landscape going forward... - Does the West Coast have a big enough college sports market to support a P5 conference? - Where do ASU, Oregon, and Washington land? - Does the Mountain West add lower end PAC 12 members and create a G5 arms race with the American Athletic Conference as the Playoff expands? - The article mentions that the Big 12 might look to add 2 ACC schools. Florida State, Clemson, Louisville, Miami FL, and Pittsburgh would be the schools I'd imagine would draw interest and be interested in a move. - The ACC would likely maintain its branding as the academic power conference, and could backfill any lost members if it so chooses, although it is already quite large after adding the Big East programs years ago. Who would be potential ACC adds? - Where does Notre Dame land? Edited June 5, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Where does Notre Dame land? I hope in a big pile of sh**! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 16 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: *West coast college football is a disaster. The east coast/midwest/south regions dominate the media markets, which is the PAC 12 is essentially folding into the Big Ten/Big 12. They want a piece of the pie they can't get with the PAC 12. The only geographic "what the Hells" are USC/UCLA to the Big Ten. Otherwise, every other move has made sense. Arizona is a little questionable but still not wild. Edit: thought of some questions I have about the landscape going forward... - Does the West Coast have a big enough college sports market to support a P5 conference? - Where do ASU, Oregon, and Washington land? - Does the Mountain West add lower end PAC 12 members and create a G5 arms race with the American Athletic Conference as the Playoff expands? - The article mentions that the Big 12 might look to add 2 ACC schools. Florida State, Clemson, Louisville, Miami FL, and Pittsburgh would be the schools I'd imagine would draw interest and be interested in a move. - The ACC would likely maintain its branding as the academic power conference, and could backfill any lost members if it so chooses, although it is already quite large after adding the Big East programs years ago. Who would be potential ACC adds? - Where does Notre Dame land? Enough P5 markets? Yes. This isn't about TV money. If it was, Alabama and the two Mississippi schools would get the boot from the SEC because of how small their TV markets are. It's about the appearance of greatness. The AAC is not the solution for the remaining Pac10 schools because that's an appearance of averageness. It has to be a alliance with the remaining Big12, which it teetering on averageness. It has to be all or nothing though. A fracture will leave the likes of Washington State, Stanford, Cal, Colorado, Oregon State, etc in the trash bin of the AAC. A few years ago the ACC schools signed a roughly two decade deal in 2016 which contained something called a Grant of Rights. This thing is iron clad. Basically, it's too expensive for anyone to leave. Here is a good explanation. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/article263209048.html I don't think college athletics is a mess. It's just becoming different. If played correctly, many schools could realign their athletic programs in a manner that is more suitable to their capabilities. This is desperately needed after a couple of decades of athletic directors bankrupting their employers with "the building process". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 why would any ACC school want to go to the big 12? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, zippy5 said: why would any ACC school want to go to the big 12? So many reasons; here are just a few...... 1) increase contact with high-powered academic schools like Oklahoma State, 2) help build up frequent flyer points. 3) use conference affiliation to score some cheap tickets to the annual Oklahoma/Nebraska showdown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted June 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 22 hours ago, GoZips86 said: I love the Zips, but as a whole, the world of college football is a disaster Big Ten Vetting Other Programs for Expansion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Interesting article on UCONN - Jim Mora on the Huskies winning a national championship and a potential move to the BIG12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 7 hours ago, zippy5 said: why would any ACC school want to go to the big 12? Exposure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, GP1 said: Exposure? Yeah, they'd get a lot of TV time playing against Texas, Oklahoma, A&M, Mizzou, Nebraska.. oh wait, it's 2023. Anyway, the Big 12 is getting raided by the big boys, and is poaching teams from the MWC and AAC. Any realignment rumors with the Big 12 poaching teams has just been propaganda from their fanbases basically and not based on any reality Edited June 6, 2023 by zippy5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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