No Bowling This Year.

[clarkwgriswold]

Kids are transferring out of schools all over the country yet the Zips are the ones in the toilet.  Maybe if the kids had a reason to stay you wouldn't see as many transfers out.  No training table, underfunded staff, awful records year after year.....

[Let'sGoZips94]

4 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Because there are actual students at Akron who are attending classes and doing assignments in worthwhile majors like; accounting, engineering, finance, computer science, etc. Are you just going to allow anyone playing on a 0-4 win football team get a guaranteed 3.0 in one of those majors when they didn't put forth any effort? Not to mention they will be competing for jobs in those fields with other Akron graduates who put in the time and effort. In fact, even against the TAs who were the ones completing their assignments.

 

Not all majors are a joke and not all players are enrolled in worthless majors. Akron isn't OSU or Alabama. Attending here isn't getting a degree to become an NFL player. 

 

You're right, and as @Captain Kangaroo said, it's a job with the goal being to get to a bigger program. Why? Because the NCAA said to hell with athletics and allow college sports to become a wild west free for all with no guardrails on any type of movement or financials. 

 

Yeah, I don't think a team that's struggling with the APR standards is majoring in anything significant. The couple of players that are aren't the problem. Give the rest a general business degree and let's move on. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

22 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

All publicity is good publicity /s

 

 

[clarkwgriswold]

I guess I should have been clued into this when more women's lacrosse players walked across the JAR floor that football players on the night they recognized the academic dean's list athletes.

[dre22era]

Paying a Overrated Coach $620,000 a year to produce Dumb Losers on the field and in the classroom. 

[Captain Kangaroo]

Wonder 4…5…6 years after the Arth era how many kids graduated, and if they didn’t, who it reflects poorly on?

 

This is a good litmus test for our new AD. Will he have a knee jerk response and be swayed by collegejocksniffer.com’s click bait and memes? Or will he perform a real investigation and make meaningful changes? If tomorrow he says “Hey, I didn’t hire that coach” be very afraid.

[clarkwgriswold]

10 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Wonder 4…5…6 years after the Arth era how many kids graduated, and if they didn’t, who it reflects poorly on?

 

This is a good litmus test for our new AD. Will he have a knee jerk response and be swayed by collegejocksniffer.com’s click bait and memes? Or will he perform a real investigation and make meaningful changes? If tomorrow he says “Hey, I didn’t hire that coach” be very afraid.

 

8-28 over three years and woeful academic performance.  Right or wrong, I could see it gaining some traction.

[dre22era]

1 minute ago, clarkwgriswold said:

 

8-28 over three years and woeful academic performance.  Right or wrong, I could see it gaining some traction.

Please Touchdown Jesus make it happen 

[Hilltopper]

13 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Wonder 4…5…6 years after the Arth era how many kids graduated, and if they didn’t, who it reflects poorly on?

 

This is a good litmus test for our new AD. Will he have a knee jerk response and be swayed by collegejocksniffer.com’s click bait and memes? Or will he perform a real investigation and make meaningful changes? If tomorrow he says “Hey, I didn’t hire that coach” be very afraid.

I doubt anybody is going to happy about the meaningful changes that are coming.

[clarkwgriswold]

31 minutes ago, Hilltopper said:

I doubt anybody is going to happy about the meaningful changes that are coming.

 

That's ominous (and not unexpected).

[GP1]

2 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

If we were sending 10 players to the NFL annually, like OSU, I might see this argument. Why would we want to devalue our Akron degrees by just handing them to random athletes on a 2-4 win MAC teams who have little to no chance of going pro?

In the NIL era, degrees are being handed out left and right. Players transfer from school to school and I doubt there is much cogency to the curriculum from school to school.

 

On line masters programs are devaluing undergraduate degrees far faster than anything. 

[GP1]

2 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

Are you just going to allow anyone playing on a 0-4 win football team get a guaranteed 3.0 in one of those majors when they didn't put forth any effort? 

Yes because I'm intellectually honest. I'd be more than happy to do it if the team won the MAC.  I'd do it for a six win season next week. I can't pretend it's college athletics anymore. 

 

I don't think a person who got passed through the college of engineering without doing any work is going to last long, or even get hired in the engineering world. 

[GP1]

2 hours ago, AkronAlumnus said:

We made on3!

 

Might result in one less person in attendance next year. 

[GP1]

1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

@Captain KangarooWhy? Because the NCAA said to hell with athletics and allow college sports to become a wild west free for all with no guardrails on any type of movement or financials. 

Actually, it was the Supreme Court of The United States of America. 

[GP1]

1 hour ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

Wonder 4…5…6 years after the Arth era how many kids graduated, and if they didn’t, who it reflects poorly on?

"kids"?  These are grown ass men who now are playing a type of minor league professional sports. Some of these "kids" are 25-26 years old. I'm not even certain why academic standards are a consideration. To me, if some of these men want to take classes towards a degree, that is good for them. If not, see you at practice, meetings and games. 

[GP1]

1 hour ago, Hilltopper said:

I doubt anybody is going to happy about the meaningful changes that are coming.

I can only see Nihilism in our future. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

8 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Actually, it was the Supreme Court of The United States of America. 

 

The Supreme Court kept the flood gates open after the NCAA went decades with stupid rules that forced the system into its current situation. 

[Hilltopper]

3 minutes ago, GP1 said:

I can only see Nihilism in our future. 

I'm just a realist. The new leadership group is serious about stopping the bleeding.

[Head coach Huell Jackson]

11 minutes ago, Hilltopper said:

I'm just a realist. The new leadership group is serious about stopping the bleeding.

From a scale of Ending the Football program to Dropping a division or so, how serious are we talking about ?

[kreed5120]

30 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Yes because I'm intellectually honest. I'd be more than happy to do it if the team won the MAC.  I'd do it for a six win season next week. I can't pretend it's college athletics anymore. 

 

What about if the team is a combined 10-38 over this 4 year look back period? What if the program has only had 1 winning season in the last 15 years?

 

This isn't a Vanderbilt or Northwestern issue where we're missing out on quality players because they don't meet academic standards. We've been admitting anyone who has a pulse and have still been the dumpster fire of the MAC.

[MangoZip]

Serious question: does this actually put Joe’s job in jeopardy before this season? 

[clarkwgriswold]

Just now, MangoZip said:

Serious question: does this actually put Joe’s job in jeopardy before this season? 

Only one school is dumb enough to fire a head coach this late in the off-season.

[kreed5120]

3 minutes ago, MangoZip said:

Serious question: does this actually put Joe’s job in jeopardy before this season? 

 

I couldn't imagine. It's not like we're in the financial position to pay a buyout while also paying another coach. 

[GP1]

12 minutes ago, MangoZip said:

Serious question: does this actually put Joe’s job in jeopardy before this season? 

No

[GP1]

31 minutes ago, Hilltopper said:

I'm just a realist. The new leadership group is serious about stopping the bleeding.

I was hoping they would try to use the football program to benefit the athletes students alumni fans and general community around Akron. I don't think this is unrealistic.