MAC 2025-26 SZN

[Let'sGoZips94]

19 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

Akron definitely can play at a higher ceiling. Miami is still very good. Probably the best MAC team we faced in the tournament since the Oats UB team. If we bring our B game and they play their A game they can and likely win. If we match their level of play we should come out on top IMO.

 

I would remove the "likely win" part. They certainly can win, but in the only matchup this year, Akron played their C game, Miami OH played their B game. Miami OH won by 3, at home, with a 20 FTA difference. In last year's title game, Miami OH played their A+ game and Akron played their B game; Akron won by 2. Miami OH needs to be 2 letter grades above Akron in the game for any real comfort IMO. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

Was curious after seeing the Miami OH/Toledo game last night. Here are the Free Throw Attempts for all of Miami OH's MAC home games...

 

Akron: 10

M-OH: 30

M-OH Margin of Victory: 3

 

WMU: 22

M-OH: 34

M-OH Margin of Victory: 11

 

CMU: 12

M-OH: 28

M-OH Margin of Victory: 39

 

Buffalo: 23

M-OH: 26

M-OH Margin of Victory: 3 (OT)

 

UMass: 17

M-OH: 38

M-OH Margin of Victory: 2

 

NIU: 17

M-OH: 20

M-OH Margin of Victory: 24

 

Ohio: 20

M-OH: 28

M-OH Margin of Victory: 16

 

BG: 15

M-OH: 27

M-OH Margin of Victory: 14

 

Toledo: 2

M-OH: 14

M-OH Margin of Victory: 2

 

Total Home FTA Advantage: +107

Average Home FTA Advantage: +11.88

* Zero MAC home games with less FTA than opponent

 

 

Here are their MAC road games...

 

M-OH: 22

Balls: 18

M-OH Margin of Victory: 9

 

M-OH: 24

BG: 23

M-OH Margin of Victory: 10

 

M-OH: 8

Toledo: 20

M-OH Margin of Victory: 14

 

M-OH: 34

Kent: 31

M-OH Margin of Victory: 6 (OT)

 

M-OH: 6

Buffalo: 18

M-OH Margin of Victory: 2

 

M-OH: 33

UMass: 16

M-OH Margin of Victory: 9

 

M-OH: 19

EMU: 23

M-OH Margin of Victory: 10

 

M-OH: 25

WMU: 20

M-OH Margin of Victory: 2

 

Total Road FTA Advantage: +2

Average Road FTA Advantage: +.25

 

 

Total MAC FTA Advantage: +109

Average MAC FTA Advantage: +6.41

Edited 46 minutes ago by Let'sGoZips94

[Let'sGoZips94]

For comparison, here are Akron's numbers...

 

EMU: 26

Akron: 14

Akron Margin of Victory: 21

 

CMU: 27

Akron: 9

Akron Margin of Victory: 13

 

Balls: 19
Akron: 16

Akron Margin of Victory: 10

 

WMU: 14

Akron: 9

Akron Margin of Victory: 15

 

Toledo: 13

Akron: 14

Akron Margin of Victory: 10

 

Kent: 21

Akron: 12

Akron Margin of Victory: 17

 

UMass: 17

Akron: 43

Akron Margin of Victory: 7

 

Buffalo: 33

Akron: 29

Akron Margin of Victory: 14

 

Total Home FTA Advantage: -24

Average Home FTA Advantage: -3

* Without UMass it's -50 Total and -7.14 Average

 

Akron: 10

M-OH: 30

Akron Margin of Victory: -3 (L)

 

Akron: 18

BG: 14

Akron Margin of Victory: 10

 

Akron: 19

Buffalo: 13

Akron Margin of Victory: 19

 

Akron: 26

Ohio: 27

Akron Margin of Victory: 21

 

Akron: 13

EMU: 16

Akron Margin of Victory: 2

 

Akron: 16

WMU: 13

Akron Margin of Victory: 17

 

Akron: 15

Balls: 9

Akron Margin of Victory: 13

 

Akron: 18

Kent: 11

Akron Margin of Victory: 22

 

Akron: 11

CMU: 6

Akron Margin of Victory: 13

 

Total Road FTA Advantage: +7

Average Road FTA Advantage: +.78

 

 

 

Total MAC FTA Advantage: -17

Average MAC FTA Advantage: -1

Edited 44 minutes ago by Let'sGoZips94

[zippy5]

They bang inside more and we play a more perimeter game

 

LGZ might need his own Miami conspiracy thread soon

[Let'sGoZips94]

4 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

They bang inside more and we play a more perimeter game

 

LGZ might need his own Miami conspiracy thread soon

 

Miami OH has 2.5 less 3PA per game.

 

Akron averages 5 more FGA per game than Miami OH, meaning a similar percentage of our offense vs. M-OH's is 2PA. M-OH is averaging 5.4 more FTA per game on the season than Akron. 

 

According to another Zips fan in a group chat I'm in, Akron's 2P Rate in MAC play is 2nd best in the conference, yet look at the in conference FTA discrepancy. 

 

Not sure where you're getting off on there being some obvious explanation for the gross FTA discrepancies. 

[kreed5120]

10 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

They bang inside more and we play a more perimeter game

 

LGZ might need his own Miami conspiracy thread soon

 

Yes, Miami also plays in a lot more close games where they're ahead. I feel you would need to subtract end of game FTs where opposing team is intentionally fouling to extend the game to give this any context.

 

In a lot of our match-ups, like last night, we're up double figures with <1 minutes so the opposing team doesn't bother trying to extend the game.

[Let'sGoZips94]

8 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Yes, Miami also plays in a lot more close games where they're ahead. I feel you would need to subtract end of game FTs where opposing team is intentionally fouling to extend the game to give this any context.

 

In a lot of our match-ups, like last night, we're up double figures with <1 minutes so the opposing team doesn't bother trying to extend the game.

 

Miami OH has had 4 home games decided by single digits. They are +107 FTA at home in the MAC. Not sure how many FTA you think they are getting in the final minute, but it's not enough to make that number look any less absurd.

Edited 49 minutes ago by Let'sGoZips94

[kreed5120]

10 minutes ago, Let&#x27;sGoZips94 said:

 

Miami OH has had 4 home games decided by single digits. They are +107 FTA at home in the MAC. Not sure how many FTA you think they are getting in the final minute, but it's not enough to make that number look any less absurd.

 

4 is a lot when you only play 9 home games in total during conference play. Not saying it makes up the full +107, but it does represent a chunk.

[Let'sGoZips94]

11 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

4 is a lot when you only play 9 home games in total during conference play. Not saying it makes up the full +107, but it does represent a chunk.

 

Let's say they are shooting 8 FT in the final minute for each of those games. That's 32, which would still leave them at +75. 

 

In addition, they've only had one road game with a greater than 10 margin of victory. Why is their road advantage only +2 despite 7 games being 10 pts or less for margin of victory if that's the explanation?

Edited 21 minutes ago by Let'sGoZips94

[NWAkron]

UMass simply fouls more.

[Let'sGoZips94]

Just now, NWAkron said:

UMass simply fouls more.

 

That's the most obvious trend from all this data. 😂

[kreed5120]

2 minutes ago, Let&#x27;sGoZips94 said:

 

Let's say they are shooting 8 FT in the final minute for each of those games. That's 32, which would still leave them at +75. 

 

In addition, they've only had one road game with a greater than 10 margin of victory. Why is their road advantage only +2 despite 7 games being 10 pts or less for margin of victory if that's the explanation?

 

To be honest I've only watched 3 or 4 Miami games all season. I can't really weigh in on the games I haven't seen. I do know a few of their close games they came from behind in and others they were up and protecting the lead. If you're trailing, you foul. If you're up you don't. I'm not invested enough to go back and look at the boxscores for each game to see which were which.

[UAZipster0305]

Cryami is getting way too much attention in this thread. In ten days, none of it will matter anyhow because we will have beaten them soundly, exposing them as the frauds they are.