Central Michigan Preview (Game Five)

[exit322]

1 minute ago, Reslife4Life said:

Does Kent? Who had to cut ties with their coach for fraud?
Does eastern Michigan? The school that I’m convinced has no fans or students?

 

How did the Tampa bay rays win 98 games this year with their budget? There’s more to sports than money. This is embarrassing 

 

Now you know that doesn't fly around here.  It's hopeless, and 14-39 after today is actually really good!

[MangoZip]

Well on a positive note, on that drive we did complete our 5th pass and go over 50yds passing halfway through the 3rd quarter 

[exit322]

In Year 5, we're losing by three scores to a CMU team that can't throw the ball.

In Year 2, Kent State's tied 10-10 with Ohio in the third quarter.

[monrowe]

8 minutes ago, Reslife4Life said:

Does Kent? Who had to cut ties with their coach for fraud?
Does eastern Michigan? The school that I’m convinced has no fans or students?

 

How did the Tampa bay rays win 98 games this year with their budget? There’s more to sports than money. This is embarrassing 

Tampa Bay budgeted their money with pitching. Were you expecting something else from the football team?

[Zips1991]

It's beginning to feel like there's no way for us to compete at the FBS level in today's college athletics environment.

[exit322]

7 minutes ago, Zips1991 said:

It's beginning to feel like there's no way for us to compete at the FBS level in today's college athletics environment.

 

There's definitely a real question here.

 

You can't then magnify your limitations by hiring the wrong coach and then extending him.

Edited Saturday at 09:53 PM by exit322

[ZipForNow]

8 minutes ago, Zips1991 said:

It's beginning to feel like there's no way for us to compete at the FBS level in today's college athletics environment.

I don't see why we can't compete at the MAC level. I don't see a lack of talent or lack of available talent. There will always be players transferring down to schools like Akron. The problem on the field is lack of execution, not lack of talent. And in addition, there seems to be a pretty serious coaching problem, both developmentally and in-game. I am convinced that if we found a hungry young coach who wanted to prove himself in FBS, the Zips could be successful. In terms of NIL and other resources, It's not as if many other programs are not in the same boat. 

[kreed5120]

23 minutes ago, Reslife4Life said:

Does Kent? Who had to cut ties with their coach for fraud?
Does eastern Michigan? The school that I’m convinced has no fans or students?

 

How did the Tampa bay rays win 98 games this year with their budget? There’s more to sports than money. This is embarrassing 

You can't really compare professional sports to collegiate sports. There are mechanisms in place that at least give smaller market teams a fighting chance. Players can't even hit free agency until they're nearly pushing 30. In college sports everyone is on a 1 year deal with no draft or other forms of evenly distributing talent.

 

EMU actually has a billionaire alumni who gifts athletics money. They're better funded than you would think.

 

Kent is fairly comparable, but it's not like they're anything special. They're on par with Akron most years.

[GP1]

3 minutes ago, ZipForNow said:

I don't see why we can't compete at the MAC level. I don't see a lack of talent or lack of available talent. There will always be players transferring down to schools like Akron. The problem on the field is lack of execution, not lack of talent. And in addition, there seems to be a pretty serious coaching problem, both developmentally and in-game. I am convinced that if we found a hungry young coach who wanted to prove himself in FBS, the Zips could be successful. In terms of NIL and other resources, It's not as if many other programs are not in the same boat. 

This is a good post. 

The question I have is, given the existing money, how would you define success?

 

[MDZip]

1 hour ago, LZIp said:

Not sure I can watch the second half. Ugly domination 

I did not. 

[kreed5120]

16 minutes ago, Zips1991 said:

It's beginning to feel like there's no way for us to compete at the FBS level in today's college athletics environment.

 

I came to that realization about 2 seasons ago when NIL first started to become more widespread and our financial situation as a University was at it's peak of being in dire straights.

[ZipForNow]

Just now, GP1 said:

This is a good post. 

The question I have is, given the existing money, how would you define success?

 

I would settle for a winning in-conference record and being bowl-eligible (6 or more wins). That would be a good start. 

[phil]

Another unwatchable Akron Zips football game.  I think in the last 10 years, about 75% of our games have been games where Akron was not competitive like today.  Just hard to watch through the years.

[ZipForNow]

1 minute ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I came to that realization about 2 seasons ago when NIL first started to become more widespread and our financial situation as a University was at it's peak of being in dire straights.

I don't know. There must be a ton of FBS schools out there in similar straits to UA. If we were the best of those schools, we would have something to be proud of. 

 

Again, win or lose, I think most of us want to see us COMPETE! That means execute: wrapping your arms on a tackle, controlling turnovers, not committing stupid penalties, angle of pursuit, etc. 

[ZipForNow]

Also, we need a balanced attack whether we are ahead or behind. As soon as we fall behind, we throw too much. We have good backs. A single well-designed run play can move the chains just as well as two incomplete passes followed by a long completion, and definitely even better than a 3-and-out passing attack. 

[exit322]

3 minutes ago, ZipForNow said:

Also, we need a balanced attack whether we are ahead or behind. As soon as we fall behind, we throw too much. We have good backs. A single well-designed run play can move the chains just as well as two incomplete passes followed by a long completion, and definitely even better than a 3-and-out passing attack. 

 

To be fair to the offensive genius, we have 29 run plays and 26 passes.  We're not passing "too much" except for to note that Roggow just doesn't have it today.

[ZippyDoo]

time and time again it's the same thing same players big gain unsportsmanlike like penalty number 71. 

 

stupid undisciplined penalty. 

 

there are coaches on this staff refuse to play players because they "don't like" a player. personally not because the player isn't good but because they don't like them. 

 

top 100 tight end in the country transfer from michigan state can't get on the field? 

 

top ranked  fcs transfer defensive senior tackle can't get a SINGLE snap cause the coach doesn't like him?

 

we play two edge rushers an entire game with junior transfers ? why even bring them?  

 

we have a 6'7 320 lb freak that can't get on the field at ANY POSITION?

 

i misspoke players do care, but they see the bullshit. FOUR defensive tackles play. FOUR. and two of them play nearly every snap. 

 

and nothing has changed and they are getting shredded still in the fourth. i'm not a coach but im in the bleachers and i can tell what the game plan is and i can assure every team moving forward is going to know what to do also. it is obvious the qb is audibling to run to a specific side ever time. and there goes another one

[MangoZip]

Absolute embarrassment on every level

[ZippyDoo]

41-10 is embarrassing. coaches should donate their paychecks for this week

[exit322]

Whenever they move on from Joe...whoever was on that hiring committee should probably stay off the next one.

[clarkwgriswold]

They've given up 339 yards of rushing thus far.  Yikes.

[clarkwgriswold]

Just now, exit322 said:

Whenever they move on from Joe...whoever was on that hiring committee should probably stay off the next one.

So, you mean when his contract expires.

[exit322]

Just now, clarkwgriswold said:

So, you mean when his contract expires.

 

Correct.  He isn't in consideration for an offensive coordinator job for any school with a pulse.

[ZippyDoo]

6 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

They've given up 339 yards of rushing thus far.  Yikes.

don't forget, that is to a team that 28 total yards after the first quarter... once again it is called coaching adjustments and lack there of

[kreed5120]

17 minutes ago, exit322 said:

 

To be fair to the offensive genius, we have 29 run plays and 26 passes.  We're not passing "too much" except for to note that Roggow just doesn't have it today.

Roggow didn't look good against UNLV either. Our defense is horrendous so our only hope to win is to win high scoring games. If CB returns soon perhaps that can salvage the season as the offense looked much better with him running it. Roggow clearly isn't the guy.

Edited Saturday at 10:34 PM by kreed5120