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This is where my greatest aggravation with JoeMo lies.

And with our best players leaving via the TP every year what else should we expect? With the current state of college football I think the best we can hope for is the possibility of catching lightning in a bottle once in a while.

You're right, it's not about the money. The central question is whether or not they want to be in the MAC. If that answer is no, it puts a lot of pressure on other programs that are performing well. The other question is, who would want Akron and why? If the answer is yes, they need to figure out how to get more competitive in 2026 and beyond.

Seems like a smart decision as the University tries to right size its footprint.

Wherever they can be competitive. Think they could compete against the S.Dakota, N.Dakota and Montana teams among others, in FCS? Personally I would question that also.

Not about 'saving money' after lierally decades of this. They have to play at a level where they can be consistently competitive. Now they are not.

I agree the program is in trouble without any NIL resources. If nothing changes, we’re basically going to turn into a developmental team for programs that do have them. We were tied for the most MAC players lost to Power programs this past offseason, and on top of that we lost highly productive guys like Norton, T. Williams, and G. Smith to other G5 schools. The staff has done an excellent job identifying talent, bringing those kids in, and developing a large portion of them, but the reality is we won’t be able to keep them for long with the way the current landscape is moving. On top of that, I don’t think our win total has matched the talent level we’ve built over the last few years. I was staunchly against the idea of moving to FCS. While that might solve a monetary deficit — and I can’t really speak to the numbers there — it’s certainly not guaranteed to field a more competitive product. Outside of Nebraska and Toledo, this team has been competitive, they just haven’t won, and that should rightfully sit uneasy with fans and stakeholders. My biggest issue with this year’s team has been quarterback play. Our starter hasn’t played up to his potential, and we don’t have a backup capable of keeping us in a game. How that’s the case in year four is beyond me. The defense had a terrible day as well, which just made things look that much worse. Back to the FCS conversation — I believe a split is coming with the haves and have-nots anyway, so we’ll end up being forced into a different division organically. Who knows what that will look like, but the SEC and Big Ten are in the driver’s seat while the NCAA loses more control by the day. I certainly don’t mean to turn this thread into one we basically already have going elsewhere, since none of us truly know what’s going to happen in the coming years and can only guess. That said, I thought I’d chime in because it does relate to our results this season and where the program is headed if nothing changes. Even so, I still believe we have enough talent to hang with every team left on our schedule, and I’m not giving this staff a free pass. We need to see better performances and results.

Were the two saves stellar or routine though? Having a great defense that only allows two mediocre shots per game can make any keeper look amazing on a stat sheet. Budler is no doubt one of the best in the country, but let's not discount excellent defense as a strong contributor to his eight shutouts.

That was always going to be the case. Even if the Zips won 6 or 7 games, like some of the blindly optimistic fans here predicted, we would still see an exodus of our best players. We can't financially compete in NIL against programs like Toledo or OU. Not to mention against the Mountain West, AAC, and the bulk of the other G5. Until that changes we will remain on the bottom of the food chain and be the punching bag for other middling programs.

At this point coach Moorhead is gone. The only question is how. We can't afford a buyout. Perhaps Joe would consider his resignation for his peace of mind and ours. This crap can't wear well on anyone, even an offensive genius. Regardless of what happens we need to accept that there will be another mass exodus of all our better players at the end of the season. Joe can't turn this around and a new staff will need time to turn it around. The better players will leave, and they should. The greatest single factor in achieving success is the people who lead. Akron football does not have the right leader.

How good should one of the most under resourced programs be? Seriously, I think that's an interesting question. Losing is one thing. A program completely devoid of any entertainment value is something completely different.

Unless Finley was injured Saturday, Johnson and Roggow should have been much better prepared for action. I haven't looked for Morehead's post game comments, but I am eagerly waiting for Zips Weekly. Will they have any positive footage to show? Was there any chance that we brought home Toledo's 3rd or 4th team QB to give us some hope?

If we just wait a few more years, G5 may have it's own division below FBS. By doing so, we can save a good MBB program and very good soccer program.

Whoever runs this account has the easiest job in the world. Depressing... but easy.

We simply can't be this bad in Year 4 😞

Highlight from the Gozips.com writeup: "Redshirt senior GK Mitch Budler (Lincoln, Neb.) collected two saves for the Zips out of nine total Bulldogs shots to earn his NCAA-leading eighth shutout of the season." This guy is good!

Are you saying our 1897 win over Ohio State is somehow now meaningless? smh. 😂

Where is Bigzipguy response to soccer games this season?

There’s not a whole lot to be said about this one. As we’ve discussed before, this year’s offense goes as Finley goes. No Finley means no offense. Add in Patrick being out and our chances of competing dropped even more. I’m not sure why Finley didn’t play, but Johnson seemed like he was running a limited package in the first half. Toledo caught on quickly to what we were trying to do, and Johnson’s accuracy issues showed up again. Roggow throws it much better than Johnson, but he seems a ways off in terms of reading college defenses. The defense doesn’t get a pass either. There were way too many busts and missed tackles, even from guys who’ve been steady all year. Just one of those bad days at the office. We needed to be at our best to have a shot today, and that didn’t come close to happening. Now it’s about turning the page and gearing up for a physical — and potentially winnable — matchup with CMU next week. QB: Johnson Roggow HB: Gant M. Williams Macon Reed WR: Walker Mason WR: Polk Grear WR: Mar. Williams Monteiron TE: Newell Cravaack LT: D. Johnson Morley-Simmons LG: McManus Archer C Lyons Morris RG: K. Davis Archer RT: A. Jones King DE: Durham J. Frazier Brown DE: Dall D. Frazier DT: Hull Murphy Musika DT: Laventure Mixon Madden LB: Cooper Spriggs Benenge LB: Boswell Hocker NB: AL. Branch AA. Branch CB: DeWalt Kamara CB: Reed T. Thomas S: Flowers Hunter S: DI. Johnson Stepney Wondolowski Top Offense (20 snap minimum): RT - King OG - Archer RB - Gant WR - Polk WR - Monteiro Top Defense (20 snap minimum): DT - Hull LB - Spriggs S - Flowers DT - Laventure CB - T. Thomas

If he's not 100% there's no point in risking aggravation in a game we were very unlikely to win; hopefully he'll be back next week. Apparently Johnson Jr. did not inherit much of his father's passing talent.

That's what the question is. Is the FCS money lost on the dozens of TV dollars made up by having more than 1400 people show up for the two November home games?

Vermont 2 UMBC 0 St. Louis with a 2-1 home win over LaSalle Creighton gets a 2-0 road win at DePaul Cornell 3-1 home win over Yale N. KY and Cleveland State 1-1 Georgetown 2-0 home win over St. John's Seton Hall 2-0 road win at Marquette Big East Midwest Standings Creighton 2-0 Akron alone in 2nd at 1-1 Xavier and DePaul 0-1-1 Marquette and Butler both 02 Big East - East Georgetown and Seton Hall both 2-0 Villanova 1-0-1 UConn and Providence both 1-1 St. John's 0-1-1