kreed5120

Bowden took over the program 7 years ago and it's at the same place it was at in year 2. It's laughable that you're still trying to use it as an excuse.

Frank wins about 70% of his MAC games. Bowden has won about 40%. You're trying to compare apples to oranges again. Akron was projected to finish 4th in the MAC East because this staff has failed to recruit and develop talent.

It's been a pretty common theme for the past 7 seasons. Whenever Akron plays a good MAC team we lose by double figures. I'm not sure how there are some people out there who think no changes are needed. It's literally insane to expect to bring this entire staff back and expect things will somehow fix itself. At the absolutely very least we need a new OC and O-line coach.

An A? He's been here for 7 seasons, that's a lifetime in the coaching world. What I've learned from his whole 7 year, not just a 2 month period, tenure is that you can expect a perennial 5-7 win team who even in their best years will still get blown out by the better teams of the MAC. Maybe for you that's good enough, but for me it's not. We have the best facilities in the MAC by a wide margin, and we play in the most fertile recruiting ground in the MAC by a wide margin. The right coach could turn this into a consistent 8-10+ win team real quick. I appreciate Bowden got us out of the rut RI put us in, but he's taken us as far as he can. We need fresh blood to make us a consistent MAC contender. It seems so many are scared of change despite the fact Larry Williams managed to snag us a high caliber men's basketball coach and perhaps a quality women's basketball coach. Football is his bread and better. I'm confident he'll make a high caliber hire. Edit: I've always been one to stay out of the the recruiting hype and just wait 2-3 years to see how good a recruiting class really was. I still went ahead and looked at the recruiting sites to see if there was any legitimacy to your claim that we're recruiting better. 247 has us 8th in MAC recruiting rankings and Rivals has us dead last. It seems you stating we're recruiting better is pure specualtion on your part as the people who get paid to do it thinks we're still in the bottom half of the MAC in that department.

Bowden had a better record in year 2 than we're most likely going to finish with this season...

Cherry picked? Would you prefer me saying 5 losing seasons and 1 .500 season in 7 years? You are what your record says you are. Either way we win about 35% of our games against FBS competition despite playing in arguably the worst division in FBS.

He's had 1 winning season in 7 years and as another poster mentioned ~35% winning percentage against FBS schools. I can't remember who it was, but someone said the buy out is only $300k. Someone start a gofundme, I'll kick in some money.

I feel we've done a much better job of creating open looks so far.

It's too early for me to cast judgement, but I trust Larry Williams to make the right choice.

St. Bonnie at 11AM

Yes, we did. We had like 9 in the 1st half alone.

Not a P6 conference (Big East is a major basketball power), but the MVC still sent a team to the final 4 last year. When's the last time the MAC did that? It's a game I would have liked to win, but certainly not a loss I'm going to lose sleep over. I was more impressed with us playing with Clemson for 40 minutes. I have Akron finishing 2nd in the MAC East behind Buffalo. Time will tell whose forecast is more accurate.

Why do you feel like that considering we came within 3 points of knocking off a 16th ranked team? This team looks like a serious MAC contender from what I've seen so far. Illinois State was picked to finish 2nd in the MVC and Clemson returned 4 starters from a Sweet 16 team.

You act like we're in a bad place. This is year 2 of Groce, who inherited a roster that had 4-5 scholarship players, and we're already competing against the #16 team in the country and one of the best mid-majors in college basketball. We have growing to do, but I expect for us to challenge in the MAC this year. I honestly thought it would take Groce 3-4 years to get where we are now. IMO we're ahead of schedule.

It is, we'll shoot that poorly again if we keep taking 3s 5 feet behind the arc or with a defenders hand in our face.

A lot of people are going to try to point at our 3-point shooting percentage and justify this loss by saying we won't shoot that bad again. We shot that bad because we took a lot of forced 3's. We needed to move the ball better to create ourselves better looks.

That was a poor 3 point by Jackson on the last possession. I also don't like that we wasted 10 seconds already in this possession.

Can we please get Kostalec out of the game.

We might as well put them up from half court the distance we're trying to shoot them from.

We're forcing too many 3s

31-4 would be an odd football score

We don't for athletic scholarships so we should be fine.

Unless Illinois State has a massive 2nd half comeback, it looks like that's who we'll be facing tomorrow. I'm not sure what to make of them. They beat FGCU who are normally a pretty solid mid major, but narrowly escaped a Chi State team that we beat by 40.

The player I would have liked to see more out of was Ivey. He finished with 4 points, 3 boars, 3 assists, and 4 turnovers. He honestly might be our best rebounder, which we certainly could have used more of, and we can normally count on him to get 10 a night. It just didn't feel he had the impact today that he normally does.

We had some early game jitters that ended up costing us. We got Marcquise Reed to foul out unfortunately about a minute or two too late. I think we could have pulled it off if we had just a little more time.