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Should Akron pull down his banner?

Sure it is. AWS is one of their sponsors. Saudis are invested in Amazon. Therefore, there is Saudi money being accepted by the PGA. Then of course you have the advertising revenue from the TV network deals, which includes Saudi money. The PGA is absolutely profiting from Saudi money, however direct or indirect that may be. If this is such an abhorrent act, shouldn't there be equal outrage at the radio hosts? Or maybe the bubble of who is actually offended isn't as large as people are led to believe? Maybe, just maybe, we should get away from caring about words offending us.

"Oof" because I'm willing to go against the grain and call out hypocrisy and have a discussion on a fan forum where this "controversy" was posted? "Oof" because my post doesn't fit the trend of herd mentality, where it's easier to simply agree to be part of the larger group instead of taking a step back and analyzing the whole situation with perspective? Honestly, the first post mentioning this insinuates the man shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. Adolph Rupp is in the HoF, and what he actually stood for was a whole helluva lot worse than this one Huggins incident. Apparently you can. The radio hosts, while they did get somewhat awkward for a second, laughed and kept Huggins on. The one guy even called him the best.

The coaches are paid to win, and the players are paid $100k+ to do the same. Let's not pretend that "representing the university" is some righteous objective anymore. Kansas had Snoop Dogg perform during one of their preseason exhibitions, and he brought stripper poles & money guns onto the court. Alabama's best player was associated with a murder in which he provided the murder weapon, and was never even suspended. Listen to the songs played during warm ups, and Google the lyrics. If representing the university in an appropriate fashion was an actual objective, at least half of those songs wouldn't be played. Yes, and a popular figurehead at Barstool was recently fired by the parent company Penn for accidentally reading the N word as he live-read rap lyrics. I'm well aware of the status quo when it comes to being politically correct and caving to the cancel culture mob. The PGA sponsors disciplined Justin Thomas, while the PGA accepts Saudi investment/sponsorship money, where it's illegal to be gay. Hypocrisy. In fact, research the companies that Saudi Arabia has invested in. What's more offensive - a gay slur or doing business with a country where being gay is punishable by death? That's why this is an overblown controversy IMO. Huggins didn't physically harm anyone or commit a crime. And those who are offended by this are probably talking about it on a Saudi-funded platform (i.e. Twitter/Facebook). Here is a good illustration of the hypocrisy within the cancel culture movement.

Right, because the music & conversations that plays & are had in the locker rooms across the country is so Holy and pure. They wouldn't offend anyone, so people would never get angry. He said a word. Big freaking deal.

Overblown "controversy". The reaction-driven hypocrisy in these situations is nauseating anymore.

I know the transfer portal will be part of this, but 2024 will be one of the most important recruiting classes in the history of the program. 5 open scholarships + any additional departures. The health of the program going forward depends on the 2023-24 season results & 2024 recruiting class. OU and Buffalo are the cautionary tales.

You must have a helluva time taking questions at the t-shirt cannon convention. "NWAkron is a t-shirt cannon survivor. He is living proof that you can stare down these weapons of sports marketing war, and not be deterred from sporting events. Bud Light's Real Men of Genius recognized the inventor of the t-shirt cannon, but it's people like NWAkron who are the Real Men."

13.5 ppg last year for Balls.

Why was he a key factor in those games? He hit his 3s. He shot 40.7% that year from 3. His worst games occurred when he didn't hit from beyond the arc. Understandable. However... He's a career 34.9% 3PT shooter. If Ali Ali doesn't produce like he did in 2021-22, are people as excited about him coming back? If you remove 2021-22, he's a career 27.6% 3PT shooter. That's 3 years of sub-35%, with 2 years of sub-30% including this past year which was 25.5%. The ball and hoop don't really change, no matter where you play in D1 college basketball. If we get 35%+ 3 PT shooting from Ali Ali, wonderful. That level of game fills massive voids we had from last year. If we get 30% or less, his scoring seemingly comes from dribbling the air out of the ball and hitting layups/mid-range jump shots for 6-8 ppg. Where does that level of game fit on this team? My expectations are tempered. I hope Ali Ali is able to fire on all cylinders this year. I have my reservations. Does he try to hard & press during his comeback tour? If he struggles, has he grown enough mentally to not get as down as he used to?

Just like he no-showed against UCLA? Didn't realize better competition came with different-size baskets... Saying his stats dropped dramatically because of the better competition isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. Edit: I'll back off now. I don't mean to be harsh towards Ali Ali. The wound of him leaving when we needed him is still open. Really hoping he has the mentality of having to earn his PT at Akron again.

Barring unforeseen circumstances, our 2023-24 roster is finalized. Guards Greg Tribble - 6'3" SR Tavari Johnson - 5'11" SO Ryan Prather Jr - 6'5" RFR Nate Johnson - 6'3" RSO Shammah Scott - 6'2" JR Kaleb Thornton - 6'0" SR Evan Wilson - 6'2" JR Pat Mayfield - 6'5" JR Wings Mikal Dawson - 6'5" SR(?) Ali Ali - 6'8" SR Marvin Musiime-Kamali - 6'6" FR "Bigs" (PF/Centers) Enrique Freeman - 6'7" SR Sammy Hunter - 6'7" SR Amani Lyles - 6'7" SO Darrion Baker - 6'7" FR Easily the deepest team in the MAC on paper, the main questions that will remain unanswered until the season starts... - Which guard(s) steps up to replace X's scoring production? Not necessarily all of it, but 10-12 ppg will be needed. - Does Amani Lyles develop into a solid #3 big man to spell Freeman/Hunter? - Does Hunter's shot develop into a more consistent, stretch-4 threat? - Does Darrian Baker, a McDonalds All American nominee, slot in as a Wing or Big (maybe under weight for a Big)? Does he contribute from Day 1? - What can we get out of Prather? 6'5" is amazing size for a guard, and if he produces, look out. - Does Ali Ali produce similarly to his 2021-22 stats? Do we see better ball movement like the end of 2021-22, or does the offense with the addition of Ali Ali revert back to Ali Ali backing down opponents with the occasional kick-out? I knocked the Kaleb Thornton transfer initially, but I did not realize he led the MAC last year in both assists and steals. He is the PERFECT PG for this team.

It's a pretty valid conversation. Breaking down how an incoming player fits onto this Zips squad is a key component to a fan forum. If Ali Ali went to Butler and came anywhere near his 2021-22 production, 1) he probably wouldn't be coming back and 2) that would validate your thought of experience & growing up equating to better production YOY. He didn't. Therefore, the door is open to question which Ali Ali we will be getting.

Which is why we need him to return to 2021-22 form. In 2021-22, part of what made Ali Ali productive was he had 241 2PA vs 118 3PA. In his other 3 seasons, he has taken pretty much an equal number of 2PA vs 3PA, with his 3 pt percentages being 23%, 34%, 40% (2021-22) and 25%. I will always root for Akron's success, which this year means rooting for Ali Ali to return to 2021-22 form (minus the possession killing back-down offense). It's very fair to have reservations about a guy who has had 1 standout year during a 4 year college career, left your program when you needed him, and is coming back with only 1 year of eligibility. Go Zips.

6'6" 310 lbs. Sheesh.

If you can guarantee me a 13 ppg player on 40%+ shooting from 2 & 3 (even upper 30s for 3 pt percentage), I'll take Ali Ali back. If he returns to 7 ppg on 40% 2 pt and 30% 3 pt (averaging out his 2020-21 & 2022-23 seasons), I'd rather take my risk on a transfer that could be here for more than one season and most likely put up similar or better numbers.

X was a 13 ppg player in 2021-22 with 2 other 13+ ppg guys on the team. I don't think X took a significant leap in 2022-23 - he just had a more prominent role thrust upon him. He largely answered the bell. Ali Ali, for as big of a step he took in 2021-22, regressed mightily in 2022-23. Whatever the circumstances may have been, he only has 1 year out of 4 of being a prominent DI basketball player. That's a fact. We need another year from him like 2021-22. That's all I'm saying.

We won 3 out of 9 under Dambrot. We never really sniffed a W in the Big Dance in the 3 appearances we made (Notre Dame wasn't good). The 7 straight Finals appearances were a blast, but coming up short twice as often grew old.

We have 13 scholarship guys. IMO, Kamali is the only redshirt candidate. Even then, I wouldn't redshirt anyone. Transfer Portal eliminates the redshirt potential for me. Ali Ali coming back only works if he is as efficient as he was in 2021-22 - and that's his outlier year by far as a D1 basketball player.

Never appreciated the excuses for his failure to take us to the next level. Did not appreciate the state he left the program in. Did not appreciate the ceiling he put on Akron when he left for Duquesne. Absolutely appreciate the level to which he elevated Akron basketball, but the way he spoke (bitching about the JAR, MAC 1-bid league, fans, etc.) made it seem like Akron had the ceiling instead of Dambrot. Time is proving that the ceiling was actually over Dambrot, not Akron.

Gotta do something to boost program morale when you're paying the coach $1M+ per year to deliver subpar/mediocre results. After all, KD's Participation Trophy case is quite large.

@catdaddyp Thank you, as always, for the in-depth & insightful breakdown of the spring game. We are doing a live-in 1st floor house remodel with 2 kids under 4, so I completely forgot the game was on Saturday (I also can't believe that was the last weekend of April already). Would much rather have been at the Spring Game. - I'm glad to hear Linguard looks the part. As long as it took for our OLine to gel last year, our RBs didn't do their part in making things happen on their own. We need Linguard & this RB group to make things happen while our OL continues to develop. - Also glad to hear that our secondary seems to be much improved. That was our biggest weakness on defense last year. WAY too many big plays given up in that level of the D. - Do we have any impending pass-rush/DL help incoming?

By way of the MAC?

Is this a high-level transfer? Awful lot of secrecy and hype.

Does this cover their trip to Puerto Rico?