Well even if I didn't ignore the rest, not even this most recent year anomaly, they are still averaging 18k over a 5 year period. I stand by my statement that I think if we had a program with similar success to NIU, with our beautiful facilities and being located in a hotbed for football, 20k average attendance wouldn't be unreasonable. But my roots aren't from Northeast Ohio, so maybe I am not as cynical as some.