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ESPN rankings are a joke. But it has nothing to do with Akron.

For an All-American? Definitely worth the chance. Bowden has brought in lower character (based on past records) and lower quality players for 1 season. None of them were a detriment to the program and all of them have seemed to stay out of trouble completely here. I trust Bowden's judgment in this area. It appears Spence wants to head to the draft. I think another season may be best for him to show scouts he has corrected his problem. The NFL drug policy is strict as us Browns fans know. Noah could make himself a lot more money by showing teams they don't have to worry about him.

Yep. Not a good night. I still give us a 50% chance of getting selected. Root for FSU and root for Miami to beat Pitt to keep the ACC with the least amount of bids as possible. It would be a lot easier to predict if we knew where each bowl was in the picking order.

For those who care what bowl projections say, I do not see Akron listed on ESPN's or CBSSports, both of which they were on last week. I did not see Ohio, either. I also checked SportingNews, Phil Steele, and SBNation. The only one that has Ohio or Akron, is SBNation, which has us in the Camelia Bowl vs Texas St.

I've went over all our of possible secondary tie-ins along with the number of eligible teams of each conference affiliated with the bowl on the previous page(s). I'm 95% sure a MAC team is going to the Quick Lane Bowl as long as what most likely will play out, does. The others, I'm not so sure, but there is a chance the MAC gets a 7th bid as well.

at least you are listening to an eventual Zips victory

why is Robotham not being immediately looked at by trainers when he is forced to leave a game with an injury? Also, we really miss Tree's rebounding.

You cant miss wide open lay ups. And Kwan needs to have better shot selection.

Haven't taken much time to read up on it, but I believe it is substance abuse. Things seem to be a lot more transparent with bigger programs.

Thanks for pointing that out. I probably shouldn't get ahead of myself considering some of the results this season.

I dont see a thread for "new"...But hey Coach Bowden/Amato. PLEASE go get this guy. Eleven Warriors ‏@11W 37s37 seconds ago It looks like Noah Spence's Ohio State career is finished. Per a statement from Gene Smith, he's been declared permanently ineligible.

Nobody disagreed with you about that. Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that maybe charges didn't want to be pressed by the victim?

Go Miami go. Never thought Id say that. Them beating OU virtually guarantees us a bowl bid IMO.

How much did UMASS beat them by?

I couldn't care less what is said about any of our competitors, including OSU as long as it is factual (something you struggle with) and isn't ignorance. I value quality discussion. If you want to spew your misguided bias against OSU or any other program, make a thread in the off topic section and you can have a nice discussion with yourself. Back to Penn State talk.

If they win their next 10 games, they'll have wins over Marquette, Louisville, and UNC. But let's not let facts get in the way of our little brother syndrome. This thread is about Penn State. Let's keep it that way.

What's your point?

Basketball requires a special kind of conditioning that you really only get from actually playing. Dealt with it every year in high school going from football to basketball.

I dont think either of our wins were against even average teams, but it was nice to go 2 for 3 against high major programs. The Miami loss wasn't disappointing, but the margin of defeat was. Hope everyone that went had a good time. I'd call it a success. My take on the tournament: Robotham- This kid..just wow. I dont know or need to know the quality of freshman in the conference this season and I'm calling it now, he's winning freshman of the year. Pat- He's probably the MVP of the tournament for the team. Hope he can keep it up. We'll need him to. Deji- Seems to be picking up where he left off last season. I still remember posters on here calling for him to transfer. Kwan- Such a dynamic player. I think he had a solid tournament and looking forward to watch him during the rest of his career. Antino- I'd like to see better shot selection, and he had a few bad turnovers this game, but I like him as a back up PG. Kretz and McAdams- They aren't asked to do much on offense. They need to hit wide open set shots. Nyles- He looks better playing off the ball at the 2. Big Dog- Looked bad, but willing to cut him some slack for the time being. Gladden- Probably most disappointed in him so far, especially considering his offer list. Just looks like he doesn't belong on the floor. I'm not a fan of the 10 man rotation. I'd like to see KD tighten it up and go 8-man. Right now, the odd men out to me are Gladden and McAdams. I choose McAdams because he is doing absolutely nothing. He went 1-3 from the FT line in a critical juncture in the game tonight. Kretzer needs to hit shots, but he does some nice things on defense and makes hustle plays. From watching these young guys, I think KD has taken the recruiting up a notch, which is essential to taking the program to the next level. Less one dimensional players, and more complete basketball players. Have to give kudos to him.

His conditioning is poor because he has been injured all preseason. Obviously going to take him some time to get back in basketball shape.

Agreed Gladden looks like he doesn't belong on the floor, but lol at it "being on him" if we lose. Especially considering we are up at the half. Don't see him getting much more minutes in this one. Reggie and Jake need to step it up.

these announcers are annoying. "Why would Robotham go to Akron over UNLV." "That first game after Treadwell, they had an emotion that put them over the top against USC." USC is not good and Akron is a good program. Do some research.

6 point dogs according to ZTV sports

I dont feel bad for Can't at all. The game could have been played if their equipment truck would have ever made it. How does an equipment truck get lost? That game getting postponed screwed us as well. I'm sure a lot of players and coaches would prefer to be home with their families over Thanksgiving.

I think he is counting the games where there will be eligibility earned by default next week (ex. Virginia and VT). But there are going to be enough bowl teams eligible (has there ever not?). I think its more important to pay attention to our tie-ins... Michigan lost to Maryland last night. They have to beat OSU to become bowl eligible. This is more good news for the Quick Lane bowl. Hopefully Miami comes through next week and beats Pitt. Where it gets iffy, is that its hard to find if for say, the Quick Lane bowls gets the #4 pick of an ACC team or the #10 pick of an ACC team. If they get the #10 pick, then good, they might not have a choice other than to pick a MAC team. However, if they pick higher, then they can just pick another ACC team.