clarkwgriswold

I don't think he got the joke.

The list of people to blame: John Groce Dustin Ford Rob Fulford Robby Pridgen Amani Lyles Shammah Scott Greg Tribble Kaleb Thornton Tavari Johnson Ryan Prather Jr. Sammy Hunter Evan Wilson Zach Halligan Mikal Dawson Ali Ali Enrique Freeman Nate Johnson Okay, now that we have that out of the way, what's the solution and is this fixable?

Stan Heath gets my vote. He led a team he didn't recruit to the Elite 8 two decades ago.

As bad as the MAC has been this year, they should be sent to Dayton for a play in game for punishment! Looking back, with the exception of Freeman, there's really no one that has exceeded expectations. Tribble's offense was certainly improved. Ali is the same player he was two years ago and has not lived up to his pre-season first team All-MAC status. Hunter's the same guy we saw the last two season. Dawson has been bad. Nate gets an incomplete (and an inconsistent). Scott was merely a defensive presence. Thornton was meh. Tavari failed to grow as a player. Lyles is merely a 5 minute a game player. I guess maybe we got more out of Prather than expected. At the end of the day, this team needs guys to step up to help Freeman and that's not happening recently. Sure, the talent's there on paper, but since they left for JMU, they've folded like paper when challenged.

Any more thoughts on this now that we've seen everyone? From what I saw, Jihad from Ball State was the second best player in the league. I'd also move Coit into first team consideration. The late season Zips meltdown takes Grice out of the COY discussion.

Groce needs to have one of these kinds of rants at the team-

The Zips have lost to the 6 and 7 seeds and two teams that didn't make the tournament in the last month. You have good reason to be worried.

I'd sure like to be a fly on that lockerroom wall to see just what's going on behind the scenes.

This thread can serve as the game threads for the tournament. No need to create a new one.

This team is LOST. Groce and staff have until Thursday to help them be found.

They gave up 59 points in the second half to an 11-19 team.

Some real momentum heading into next week....

Dawson misses a box out...

Sammy gets bullied underneath...Nate loses his guy on defense...just when you think it can't get worse...

It's kind of amazing Enrique hasn't fouled out more with what little help he's had in the defensive post.

How did refs every survive without being able to go to the video.

Javonte Brown will eat Lyles alive.

He is so slow laterally.

This team seems to feel compelled to allow opponents back into games.

CBS Sports Network- Grrrrrrrrrr.

Mike Davis who brought his Detroit Mercy team here a while back and "daddy balled" his kid to stardom got the heave ho today after his Titans went 1-31 on the season.

Good points. We've been spoiled with guard transfers like X and LCJ. We need to realize that some guys may be brought in to provide decent depth, not be stars.

Stan Heath has a 26-55 record at EMU and 236-262 record over 16 years as a head coach, after starting at 30-6 at PCCC with Gary Waters recruits. I think that qualifies as awful.

No question, they are in high demand and short supply. We'll always be left to wonder what Baker's role would have been on this team.

They could have also used another big. Too much of the post defense and rebounding was put on Enrique's shoulders.