Dr Z Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Saturday, October 22, 3:00 PM on ESP3 Scheumann Stadium, Muncie, Indiana Coaches don't have to report any injuries, but this site has been pretty close each week. Jerome seems to be new to the list this week. I also know Zach Guiser is out with a dislocated elbow (per his instagram page), and I have to think Boxen is questionable at best with what seems to be a knee. 10/16/16 Jerome Lane Shoulder injured last game, "?" Saturday vs. Ball State 10/16/16 Jojo Natson Shoulder "?" Saturday vs. Ball State 10/16/16 Se'Von Pittman Undisclosed "?" Saturday vs. Ball State 10/16/ Thomas WoodsonShoulder "?" Saturday vs. Ball State 10/16/16 Warren Bal lUndisclosed "?" Saturday vs. Ball State 10/05/16 Jamal Marcus Undisclosed out for season Ball State seems pretty healthy according to this site. 10/15/16 OT Steven BellUndisclosed "?" 08/29/16 OL Andrew Poenitsch Leg out for season Mark Roberts picks Ball State to win by two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Wake me up when TW and/or WB are back on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Dr Z said: Boxen is questionable at best with what seems to be a knee. You won't be seeing him, and it's not a knee. That's all I am going to say. You're unfortunately going to be getting some bad news about another DL also. We lost much more than just a game last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said: Wake me up when TW and/or WB are back on the field. People weren't questioning some things when we were beating a couple of scrubs. Those games are done. Last Saturday was a "back to reality" game that even I was not imagining being anywhere close to the way it turned out. Getting a couple of these guys back could be a huge lift, but new injury news is going to hurt. I hope we at least can find a way to get back to a bowl game. And needing 3 more wins to guarantee that is going to make Ball State a pretty important game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Help me out. To win the MAC East, do only our MAC East games count. Or do all MAC games count? (I know that of course all games count toward bowl eligibility, which is the big prize for our program right now. So yes, BIG game this weekend v Ball State! Get better, Tommy.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, skip-zip said: People weren't questioning some things when we were beating a couple of scrubs. Those games are done. Last Saturday was a "back to reality" game that even I was not imagining being anywhere close to the way it turned out. Getting a couple of these guys back could be a huge lift, but new injury news is going to hurt. I hope we at least can find a way to get back to a bowl game. And needing 3 more wins to guarantee that is going to make Ball State a pretty important game. You must be a lot of fun at parties 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: Help me out. To win the MAC East, do only our MAC East games count. Or do all MAC games count? (I know that of course all games count toward bowl eligibility, which is the big prize for our program right now. So yes, BIG game this weekend v Ball State! Get better, Tommy.) They all count. I'd assume the East games are a tiebreaker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Good grief. It's already game 8. Football season goes way tooooooooooo fast. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 31 minutes ago, zippy5 said: They all count. I'd assume the East games are a tiebreaker Here are the division tiebreakers for the MAC. Two teams: Head-to-head Three or more teams: Head-to-head record among tied teams Record of tied teams within the division (versus rank order, highest to lowest, of division teams) Comparison of conference winning percentage of cross-over opponents of tied teams So if the Zips end up tied with Ohio the last game of the year will be the deciding factor. And all games count equally. Incidentally the last MAC East Championship in 2005 was won on the last of the criteria on the three or more teams tied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: You must be a lot of fun at parties You'll find out what I am talking about very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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InTheZone Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, skip-zip said: You'll find out what I am talking about very soon. I smell what you're cooking, and it's devastating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 11 minutes ago, InTheZone said: I smell what you're cooking, and it's devastating You guys are killing me! When's the weekly presser? Tuesday? If one of you guys w/ some inside info wanna IM me I'd really appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 WMU went pretty much how I expected it to go, especially minus Tommy. If we have Tommy back, I think we can still win every game, but Toledo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 I expected to lose to WMU by 10-20 points, not be shutout and lose by 41. Injuries or not that was a gut-wrenching blow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 BUT DO NOT MAKE FUN OF THE ROW THE BOAT THING. (sigh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Ball State Message Board Ball State's Last Game - Had a RB with 200+ yards - oh...no.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Brock Boxen had surgery today, and is out for the season. "8 screws, 1 plate, out for the season but surgery went well" per Brock's Instagram. Get Well Brock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyfan34 Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Dr Z said: Brock Boxen had surgery today, and is out for the season. "8 screws, 1 plate, out for the season but surgery went well" per Brock's Instagram. Get Well Brock. I would argue he has been the best lineman this year when he was out there. He will be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 Ouch. Hey Jelani, time to play like you're from "The U." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 17, 2016 Report Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Losing a DL other than Boxen wouldn't be "devastating", The've all been average at best this season. In fact, I'd be happy to see more of Jest. "Devastating" would be losing Marcus for the season. Enough with the hyperbole. Edited October 17, 2016 by LZIp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Jojo Natson has been upgraded to "probable." Ball State favored by two in Vegas. Bulls perspective on their loss to Ball State last week. You could go back and watch last week's Ball State vs Buffalo game on ESPN3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTheZone Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 17 hours ago, LZIp said: Losing a DL other than Boxen wouldn't be "devastating", The've all been average at best this season. In fact, I'd be happy to see more of Jest. "Devastating" would be losing Marcus for the season. Enough with the hyperbole. Well if you think we have average DL's starting, what do you think's behind them? I'll tell you: Guys that aren't ready to play college football and will get blown 10 yards off the ball. Losing a starter on the defensive line doesn't just mean the back up steps up. It means guys that weren't even previously in the rotation are now going to get snaps. and a few plays of gaping holes on the defensive line can be catastrophic. We don't have the depth at that position to be having these injuries, and it's going to hurt us very badly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 20 minutes ago, InTheZone said: Well if you think we have average DL's starting, what do you think's behind them? I'll tell you: Guys that aren't ready to play college football and will get blown 10 yards off the ball. Losing a starter on the defensive line doesn't just mean the back up steps up. It means guys that weren't even previously in the rotation are now going to get snaps. and a few plays of gaping holes on the defensive line can be catastrophic. We don't have the depth at that position to be having these injuries, and it's going to hurt us very badly. The D-line has been rotating all year. An injury means that people in that rotation will get more snaps. it's unfortunate but it's not earth shattering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, g-mann17 said: The D-line has been rotating all year. An injury means that people in that rotation will get more snaps. it's unfortunate but it's not earth shattering. Did you ever wonder why there was a rotation to begin with? Maybe to keep the DL active and fresh throughout the game? Now you'll have a 2nd tier guy, playing a lot of snaps, on a unit that was already struggling. And secondly, If you read my original post in this thread, I wasn't making a big deal out of just one guy's absence. Stay tuned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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