Zips @ #8 Gonzaga 12/10/16

[skip-zip]

Again, nice job digging up the info. Kreed.

 

I don't have time to go look at all of that, but I can see the difference in the two counties from your description.  It fits with everything I've been told all along, that there is just no source of money to get this done.  I guess we need to build more hotels   But even with something like a bed tax (which primarily brings in revenue from people who live outside the area), would our county officials ever feel as if an Arena is worthy of that expense?  Who knows.  

 

With what I know, here's how I am guessing this will all go down, in this order.....

1) JAR renovations

2) The University looking at the their own new arena about a decade or so down the road.

3) The city will look at building an arena.  

 

The only recent events that might swap items 2 and 3 is if this new mayor continues on his path of wanting to work more with the University.  

 

So, back to the subject at hand: An Akron vs. Gonzaga home game anytime soon would need the Cleveland arena.  And we'll need a MAC Championship or better overall turnout to make that trip for one game if it ever has any potential of happening.  

[Blue & Gold]

Take some of that, Gonzaga.

 

[Captain Kangaroo]

Hopefully Steve McNees got some revenge and dunked on someone.

 

[skip-zip]

Hey, I remember that play.  But I never saw the push-off.  That shows it pretty clearly.  

[72 Roo]

Reed .... Thanks for bringing a good dose of reality into any thought of a new arena. Your research is appreciated and is top shelf work!

[72 Roo]

Sorry, I meant Kreed.

[LZIp]

On 12/11/2016 at 9:37 AM, NWAkron said:

I love the Zips no matter their record and I admittedly don't know much about the mechanics of the game.  Just a long time fan who schedules the winter months around the games.

That being said, Dambrot cant will these guys to make 3s or free throws.   And he can't seem to make Big Dog condition himself.   The only way a team like Akron or any other MAC team can win one of these games or win a NCAA tourney game is to get hot from 3 and go 90% at the foul line.  It's hard for me to blame the coach when I think the level of talent is baked in to these players from day 1.  They may improve here or there and may learn to hustle more on defense, but mid major teams aren't going to sneak some amazing prospect into their program in this day and age.

Meh we have missed the boat on two local players who certainly would have been program changers in Nance and McCollum in recent years.. They are out there, you just need to find them.

[Blue & Gold]

9 hours ago, LZIp said:

Meh we have missed the boat on two local players who certainly would have been program changers in Nance and McCollum in recent years.. They are out there, you just need to find them.

Jayvon Graves 

[Hilltopper]

27 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Jayvon Graves 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

[skip-zip]

Exactly.  Plus, how do you put a blanket on all of these local kids and imply that we "let them get away"?  There's different circumstances with all of them, including that Nance went to play for a coach who coached his dad.  

[kreed5120]

11 minutes ago, skip-zip said:

Exactly.  Plus, how do you put a blanket on all of these local kids and imply that we "let them get away"?  There's different circumstances with all of them, including that Nance went to play for a coach who coached his dad.  

 

I agree. McCollum might be the only one "we let get away." I say this because he is on record as saying he had his heart set on playing for the Zips and was disappointed he wasn't offered.

[LZIp]

23 minutes ago, skip-zip said:

Exactly.  Plus, how do you put a blanket on all of these local kids and imply that we "let them get away"?  There's different circumstances with all of them, including that Nance went to play for a coach who coached his dad.  

Meh, maybe. The fact is Dambrot didn't offer any of them. Nor did Kent, CSU, OU, etc. That makes me think they all missed. It doesn't take anything to simply offer the kids. Same with Graves. There is no excuse for not trying.

[Sportsjunkie330]

46 minutes ago, Hilltopper said:

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

 

Yes, but you also can't assume that just because they go to St V that they are going to go to UA and you don't have to make an effort to the recruiting process. The kids want to go through the process.

[Hilltopper]

7 hours ago, LZIp said:

Meh, maybe. The fact is Dambrot didn't offer any of them. Nor did Kent, CSU, OU, etc. That makes me think they all missed. It doesn't take anything to simply offer the kids. Same with Graves. There is no excuse for not trying.

 

7 hours ago, Sportsjunkie330 said:

 

Yes, but you also can't assume that just because they go to St V that they are going to go to UA and you don't have to make an effort to the recruiting process. The kids want to go through the process.

We offered Graves.

[LZIp]

25 minutes ago, Hilltopper said:

 

We offered Graves.

I stand corrected. Multiple sites/publications did not list an Akron offer.

 

 

[Blue & Gold]

^^But IMHO this is telling.  How on God's green earth were we his TENTH offer?!?!  I saw Jayvon play when he was a sophomore and knew within 15 seconds we should offer him.

[clarkwgriswold]

Another reality sometimes is that a kid doesn't want to stay home to play.  College for many is a chance to venture out into the big world.  In that instance, a kid might choose an equal or program for a chance to go away.

[Z.I.P.]

Missing a local player is one thing.  Letting him go to our rival is another!  Hurry and build that wall with Canada! 

http://verbalcommits.com/players/jayvon-graves

[Sportsjunkie330]

5 hours ago, Hilltopper said:

 

We offered Graves.

Making an offer and putting a kid through the process are two different things 

[skip-zip]

10 hours ago, Z.I.P. said:

Hurry and build that wall with Canada! 

 

Build The Wall...Build The Wall...Build The Wall

 

Lock Her Up..Lock Her (Oops, sorry.  Elections are over) 

[kreed5120]

1 hour ago, skip-zip said:

 

Build The Wall...Build The Wall...Build The Wall

 

Lock Her Up..Lock Her (Oops, sorry.  Elections are over) 

 

I read Canada has something like 12 players in the NBA this season. Screw building the wall. How about we start going there to look for croots?

[MDZip]

Zags look to be heading to 22-0 and a possible #1 ranking and have beaten 17 of their foes by 20 or more. The group they have not include Akron, Arizona, Iowa State and Florida. Of course I also noticed they did not play a single non-conference game away from home. They really are acting like a high major. :-) So the Zips may have played a team ranked #1 at some point during the season the past two years.

[MDZip]

If Gonzaga wins the National title will teams be more eager to schedule us since we played Villanova last year?