Zipgrad01 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, K92 said: The biggest thank you should be to Western’s OC. If I was Western’s OC, we would be celebrating a win tonight because I would have pounded the ball down your throat all afternoon. We sound alike... read my post below 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 So I meant to ask.. I listened to the game. Did WMU really decline a roughing the kicker penalty? Frenchy didn't understand why they would but I have to think they announced the call wrong or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Losing a 1st round pick can do that for you. I'd still argue Fleck is a great recruiter and not much more He isn't doing too great with that 10 win team from last year in Minnesota. FWIW, Corey Davis' only offer coming out of high school was WMU. Terrell's offers were WMU and Kent State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: So I meant to ask.. I listened to the game. Did WMU really decline a roughing the kicker penalty? Frenchy didn't understand why they would but I have to think they announced the call wrong or something It was running into the kicker. The declined the penalty and kept the 3 on the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94zipgrad Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: So I meant to ask.. I listened to the game. Did WMU really decline a roughing the kicker penalty? Frenchy didn't understand why they would but I have to think they announced the call wrong or something Yes, wouldn’t have given 1st down & didn’t want to take points off the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: So I meant to ask.. I listened to the game. Did WMU really decline a roughing the kicker penalty? Frenchy didn't understand why they would but I have to think they announced the call wrong or something It was running into the kicker. The 5 yard penalty wouldn't have game them the first down. I'd imagine they were fine taking the 3 points rather than risk kicking it again or going for it on 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, K92 said: It was running into the kicker. The declined the penalty and kept the 3 on the board. So Frenchy was drunk, thought so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, LZIp said: He isn't doing too great with that 10 win team from last year in Minnesota. FWIW, Corey Davis' only offer coming out of high school was WMU. Terrell's offers were WMU and Kent State. He didn't do that great his first year at western either. I will wait a year or 2 to let him get his guys in the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, zippy5 said: So Frenchy was drunk, thought so. He closed down Bell’s Saturday night at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad01 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, K92 said: He closed down Bell’s Saturday night at the very least. At least it wasn't Arcadia. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, zippy5 said: What has changed on the staff? Nothing at/near the top. But Chuck might have a defense that's worked its way back to somewhat of a 2015 form. That was clearly the difference today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 10 minutes ago, zippy5 said: So Frenchy was drunk, thought so. If I recall, the referee announced it as a personal foul, so that could have led to the confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 38 minutes ago, Lee Adams said: If you lose to Toledo and then to OU you are behind in the tiebreaker if OU wins out. HAVE to beat OU THIS season. Do you think OU is going to win out? They have the east, but also Toledo left to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA1987 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Wow what a defensive game. I don't understand not targeting Wolf on more throws and I think we needed to run the ball around the edges instead of up the gut a few more times late, but not complaining. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, zipsrule said: Do you think OU is going to win out? They have the east, but also Toledo left to play. Hard to say. I have not watched them play at all this year, but I am sure they are the unimpressive workman mentality team that they always are. They don’t beat themselves much. I don’t tune in to watch them though because they are boring af. I have watched Toledo a few times and it just seems like something just isn’t quite right on offense and they are sputtering. I am afraid if they could begin to execute to their potential they would be unstoppable. If our offense could work to its potential, it’s hello Detroit. Done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 Roo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 hours ago, NWAkron said: Who is this Milwee person everyone wants fired? Milwee is the single most powerful force in stopping the Zip offense. Unfortunately he is also our OC. His greatest contribution today was sharing his offensive genius with the WMU OC. The affects showed. Western's OC was horrible. I honestly think TB could improve this team and program most significantly by firing Milwee. That action would also save TB's job IMHO. Why on earth would you throw the ball when on the WMU 34 with third and 2, and you must sustain the drive and use up the clock? Woody throws a pick and Western goes in for a TD. Hell we were in two down territory to get 2 lost yards and a first down. With a first down we would have at least had the chance for a FG and maybe ice the game. I cannnot stand Milwee and feel he is not capable of being an OC. That tempers my enthusiasm for our prospects. I wish TB was not so loyal and a better judge of ability as measured by results. I need a beer! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 14 minutes ago, 72 Roo said: I honestly think TB could improve this team and program most significantly by firing Milwee. That action would also save TB's job IMHO. I think today's win went a long way in TB having his contract extended. As we all know, anything can happen...but these Zips are now staring a minimum 7-win regular season square in the face. If that happens, tack on 3 more years to Bowden's contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, 72 Roo said: Milwee is the single most powerful force in stopping the Zip offense. Unfortunately he is also our OC. His greatest contribution today was sharing his offensive genius with the WMU OC. The affects showed. Western's OC was horrible. I honestly think TB could improve this team and program most significantly by firing Milwee. That action would also save TB's job IMHO. Why on earth would you throw the ball when on the WMU 34 with third and 2, and you must sustain the drive and use up the clock? Woody throws a pick and Western goes in for a TD. Hell we were in two down territory to get 2 lost yards and a first down. With a first down we would have at least had the chance for a FG and maybe ice the game. I cannnot stand Milwee and feel he is not capable of being an OC. That tempers my enthusiasm for our prospects. I wish TB was not so loyal and a better judge of ability as measured by results. I need a beer! Unless the Zips unexpectedly tank, he is not going anywhere. Milwee called a very good game, today, and as a matter of fact has called good games since the conference schedule began. We got our points whike the weather was a littke better and then kept it mainly on the ground in the second half when the weather turned miserable. Seems logical to me. I have had issues with playcalling in the past, but honestly, the playcalling has just been fine since we hit MAC play. Why would yoy throw the ball? Because we had a lot of time left on the clock and you needed a first down. Our run game was not that convincing at that point You put the ball in the hands of the 5th year QB. Interestingly enough, the next series when we did not throw on 3rd, we had ZN members calling for passes. You have to retain some element of surprise, even when playing conservatively. Oh, by the way, we won today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said: I think today's win went a long way in TB having his contract extended. As we all know, anything can happen...but these Zips are now staring a minimum 7-win regular season square in the face. If that happens, tack on 3 more years to Bowden's contract. I'd agree. Still need to beat the teams we are supposed to beat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Not a big fan of Milwee but he isn’t our biggest problem. If he was really good a A P5 would snatch him up. Lincoln Riley and Tom Herman are 2 good OC that went to bigger programs and then were soon HC. I’d prefer some continuity in a staff if the HC stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 10:12 PM, zipsoutsider said: I'll just leave this one alone.... Most people thought it was gonna be a blow-out. This guy nailed it. Give him credit. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 Great win, but I agree with 72 Roo. Was the TE scripted early only to have him disappear? Milwee's failure to look ahead seems to be exemp[ified by our failure to get plays in timely,, The play call on the int was a mistake. Yes, it could have gone for a TD, but it was still the wrong call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) We were starring at a 7-8 win season last year before we lost to Buffalo and Bowling Green. If this game taught us anything lets not circle wins and losses until the games are played. Upsetting a quality team like WMU doesn't mean a whole lot if we turn around and lose to a terrible team like Kent later in the season. Lets just take it one game at a time. Edited October 16, 2017 by kreed5120 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: We were starring a 7-8 win season last year before we lost to Buffalo and Bowling Green. If this game taught us anything lets not circle wins and losses until the games are played. Upsetting a quality team like WMU doesn't mean a whole lot if we turn around and lose to a terrible team like Kent later in the season. Lets just take it one game at a time. We're fans, this is what we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 16, 2017 Report Share Posted October 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: We were starring a 7-8 win season last year before we lost to Buffalo and Bowling Green. If this game taught us anything lets not circle wins and losses until the games are played. Upsetting a quality team like WMU doesn't mean a whole lot if we turn around and lose to a terrible team like Kent later in the season. Lets just take it one game at a time. Last year we lost countless key players. Right now we're healthy...healthy, at least, as any college football program can reasonably expect to be 7 weeks into a season. Our defense was strong the entire game yesterday. That speaks to the depth we've accrued. They also played at a pretty high level. Everyone wants to credit Amato...and they should. But Stroud has done a great job. Mounds and Woodford too. Throw Gildersleeve in there as well - our guys are in shape and strong. Great win for the Zips yesterday. It gets some legitimate MAC Championship talk going in Summit County. That's awesome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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