LZIp Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said: Agreed with the general impatience of fans, but I wonder, how long is long enough? I don't profess to know the answer that question. I'm just curious as to what your view is. This year is likely "long enough" if we only win 1 game. I'm not sure of my thoughts if they were to win something like 2. If I end up being satisfied based on reasonable expectations this year, my expectations next year are bowl eligible or bust, without a doubt. This would give Arth another year to address issues with players and staff, his original class would be in their 4th year in the program. There's been a lot of issues the staff has had to face - some self inflicted, and some out of their control. Taking the long approach and booting a lot of Bowden players/playing their recruits, COVID, way under the scholarship limit, losing the best player on offense, potentially defense (McCall), and the O-line coach unexpectedly this season. I haven’t seen much that makes me think “incompetent” from the coaching staff. Some of the weird head scratching stuff seems to be ref screw ups (based on the games I’ve been to).My biggest head scratcher is some of the personnel decisions, but they’re obviously around the team infinitely more than me. Edited September 26, 2021 by LZIp 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit322 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 We made one of the Buckeyes quit mid-game, so that's got to count for something, right? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Arth turned our program into a big fat wussy Congrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, LZIp said: This year is likely "long enough" if we only win 1 game. I'm not sure of my thoughts if they were to win something like 2. If I end up being satisfied based on reasonable expectations this year, my expectations next year are bowl eligible or bust, without a doubt. This would give Arth another year to address issues with players and staff, his original class would be in their 4th year in the program. There's been a lot of issues the staff has had to face - some self inflicted, and some out of their control. Taking the long approach and booting a lot of Bowden players/playing their recruits, COVID, way under the scholarship limit, losing the best player on offense, potentially defense (McCall), and the O-line coach unexpectedly this season. Good summary of what the staff has been through. Arth getting hired so late as to not sign any recruits till the late signing period his first year (basically getting leftovers; doesn't count), then facing COVID. The team is still incredibly young. I give him this year to finally get his ducks in a row. But next year I want to see a major jump in level of play & bowl eligibility. We won't be a young team next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 We need to stop the run. Stuff the box & make them throw. Brandon Bischof in there. But Boateng not in there after leaving the game holding his wrist in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Got some pressure on the QB & forced a bad throw for an INT 😊 Edited September 26, 2021 by Blue & Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
94zipgrad Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Our Center is getting destroyed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, 94zipgrad said: Our Center is getting destroyed This is the first game it hasn’t been Beckman, for what it’s worth. I thought the biggest upgrade we could have made would be to maybe try out Chambers at LT and leave everything else alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 9:43 AM, Blue & Gold said: 💯 Whoever scheduled Auburn & OSU should be tarred and feathered, and then drawn and quartered. This is how the program avoids budget cuts… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Please stop trying to run up the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exit322 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: Good summary of what the staff has been through. Arth getting hired so late as to not sign any recruits till the late signing period his first year (basically getting leftovers; doesn't count), then facing COVID. The team is still incredibly young. I give him this year to finally get his ducks in a row. But next year I want to see a major jump in level of play & bowl eligibility. We won't be a young team next year. Yeah, this really is the key. There needs to be real progress by the end of this season, and we're seeing some flashes of it with Irons. I'd like to see another touchdown drive tonight just to make sure they can go home knowing some progress has been made...but we can't go 0-8 in the MAC again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Ohio is 0-4, including a loss to a FCS program. There’s that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Spin said: Ohio is 0-4, including a loss to a FCS program. There’s that. Circled on my calendar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Corner and Bischoff would appear to be in for Bubba and Boateng. Hopefully Boateng’s injury wasn’t serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Too many passes bouncing off receivers hands tonight. Are they hearing (top 10) footsteps? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Victimizing Arth based on a lack of time of recruiting is BS. At the end of the day Arth flat out can't coach on a D1 level 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, Spin said: Too many passes bouncing off receivers hands tonight. Are they hearing (top 10) footsteps? 2 drops that drive alone… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, dre22era said: Victimizing Arth based on a lack of time of recruiting is BS. At the end of the day Arth flat out can't coach on a D1 level Seriously. Every coach has had the same challenges. It was his choice to cut lose the Bowden recruits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 I like Mumpfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 35 minutes ago, exit322 said: Yeah, this really is the key. There needs to be real progress by the end of this season, and we're seeing some flashes of it with Irons. I'd like to see another touchdown drive tonight just to make sure they can go home knowing some progress has been made...but we can't go 0-8 in the MAC again. with 3 years in and 2 remaining you have to decide whether or not to extend, if not it's that much harder to recruit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: Seriously. Every coach has had the same challenges. It was his choice to cut lose the Bowden recruits. Stick to the Bowden thread with this crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Stick to the Bowden thread with this crap Then don't throw it out as an excuse for why Arth can't do his job 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Going up 7-0 on the Suckeyes is a new low for tOSUcks. They should be embarrassed. We made one of their players quit. We held them to under 60. DJ Irons will be just fine in the MAC at QB. To quote Pat Shurmur... We battled... Progress... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 I see No Progress Can't compete in the MAC Need 4 quarters to put away DII schools at home. Can't last a half against Power 5s. Same results every year in the Arth Era that needs to Die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football grandma Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 I don't get it! The Zips are playing teams that beat the snot out of them for the money the program gets? What about losing their fan base, chasing away top recruits that won't want to play for a losing program, demoralizing players and disillusioning ones that never get into a game not matter how badly the team is losing, risking injuries in these lopsided games... ? Please explain the logic to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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