Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Anyway this wasn't meant to be a whole cancel culture debate. Just some news about Huggy who is probably going to get fired soon. Should Akron pull down his banner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Sure it is. AWS is one of their sponsors. Saudis are invested in Amazon. Therefore, there is Saudi money being accepted by the PGA. Then of course you have the advertising revenue from the TV network deals, which includes Saudi money. The PGA is absolutely profiting from Saudi money, however direct or indirect that may be. This is such a stretch that it doesn't even merit a response. You could literally make that argument about nearly any business as they all have reliance on oil one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 did you read my post that you quoted? Not sure what your goal is here, but congrats on not being "woke" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: This is such a stretch that it doesn't even merit a response. You could literally make that argument about nearly any business as they all have reliance on oil one way or another. Not much of a stretch, but that's precisely the point. The fake outrage over something this small vs virtually zero outrage as companies all over the place accept money from a country where being gay is punishable by death. 1 minute ago, zippy5 said: did you read my post that you quoted? Not sure what your goal is here, but congrats on not being "woke" Yes, you said he will probably be fired soon. In response, I posed the question if Akron should take down his banner? If what he did is egregious enough to lose his job over, should Akron being honoring him? How far do we go with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Akron should take down his banner? No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 It's back^^! Noticing a trend? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: Just some news about Huggy who is probably going to get fired soon. It's West Virginia, which given the bigotry in the state, he'll probably get a pay raise instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Right, because the music & conversations that plays & are had in the locker rooms across the country is so Holy and pure. They wouldn't offend anyone, so people would never get angry. He said a word. Big freaking deal. This ain't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Zippy87 said: This ain't it. What about this ain't it? Have songs like Rap God by Eminem not been blaring in locker rooms (and pretty much by every millennial/Gen Zer) since 2013? Edited May 9, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) This is actually getting fun to track. Reasons why it's okay for Huggy to say bigoted things in public: -players listen to profane music -justin thomas called himself the same word under his breath (and lost his main sponsor?) -golfers indirectly get money from saudi arabia (?) -snoop dogg was at a Kansas event -a barstool guy got fired for saying the n word (this might be a reason to fire him though? I'm confused on this one) -AM radio guys thought it was funny Great entertainment today either way Edited May 9, 2023 by zippy5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, zippy5 said: This is actually getting fun to track. Reasons why it's okay for Huggy to say bigoted things in public: -players listen to profane music -justin thomas called himself the same word under his breath -golfers indirectly get money from saudi arabia (?) -snoop dogg was at a Kansas event -a barstool guy got fired for saying the n word (this might be a reason to fire him though? I'm confused on this one) -AM radio guys thought it was funny Great entertainment today either way Framing it this way is a Kent State-level thought process and reading comprehension. If you would like to have a legitimate discussion on a topic you originally posted about, with the insinuation that he wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame because of this incident had he not already be indicted, I would love to partake. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to publicly discuss. Apparently, in today's America, it's enough to post a topic (ignorantly not expecting a different viewpoint to be shared), share an opinion, then incorrectly repeat the opposition's words and slap a "bigot" label on them to end a discussion. P.S. The Barstool guy, as I previously mentioned, got fired for reading rap lyrics with the N word in it. Edited May 9, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 39 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: What about this ain't it? Have songs like Rap God by Eminem not been blaring in locker rooms (and pretty much by every millennial/Gen Zer) since 2013? These things have nothing to do with each other. You're grasping at non-sensical arguments to defend the indefensible. Huggins said something really ignorant. He was wrong. Period. We can debate if he should lose his job or not - that's fine - but he was wrong for what he said and any consequences he receives will be because of his own doing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted May 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 Huggins may or may not be a drunk. Huggins may or may not be a homophobe. Huggins may or may not be an anti-papist. What can't be argued is the inescapable conclusion that he's really really stupid to say something like this in today's world. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: If you would like to have a legitimate discussion on a topic you originally posted about, with the insinuation that he wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame because of this incident had he not already be indicted, I would love to partake. Feel free to PM me if you don't want to publicly discuss. That was a cheeky way of posting the topic since this is a HOF thread and there wasn't a Huggins thread that I can find. I'm not really interested in having much of a discussion, so I will pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Zippy87 said: These things have nothing to do with each other. You're grasping at non-sensical arguments to defend the indefensible. Huggins said something really ignorant. He was wrong. Period. We can debate if he should lose his job or not - that's fine - but he was wrong for what he said and any consequences he receives will be because of his own doing. He said a word. He wasn't campaigning for the rights of gays to be taken away or for gay people to be murdered for being gay. The same word is used in popular rap songs. The same word is used in movies & comedy shows that many people have laughed at, including on this board. It's a damn word that people are suddenly up in arms about, while they stay silent about legitimate human rights violations in the world that are partially funded through companies Americans support. The hypocrisy in the outrage is hilariously evident. When I heard what Huggy said, I laughed. Does that make me a bad person? I'll let God be the judge of that when the time comes. But I know that if human rights for gays or a gay person were being threatened or assaulted, I'd be one of the first people at their defense. I'm pretty comfortable in my own skin and moral compass. I am tired of the crusade against free thinking, and am done being complicit with silence. Excuse me for being able to distinguish the differences and having the cajones to point all of this out. Edited May 9, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 Very brave! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: He said a word. He wasn't campaigning for the rights of gays to be taken away or for gay people to be murdered for being gay. The same word is used in popular rap songs. The same word is used in movies & comedy shows that many people have laughed at, including on this board. It's a damn word that people are suddenly up in arms about, while they stay silent about legitimate human rights violations in the world that are partially funded through companies Americans support. The hypocrisy in the outrage is hilariously evident. When I heard what Huggy said, I laughed. Does that make me a bad person? I'll let God be the judge of that when the time comes. But I know that if human rights for gays or a gay person were being threatened or assaulted, I'd be one of the first people at their defense. I'm pretty comfortable in my own skin and moral compass. I am tired of the crusade against free thinking, and am done being complicit with silence. Excuse me for being able to distinguish the differences and having the cajones to point all of this out. The fact that you keep bringing up rap songs is pretty telling, but I'll leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Zippy87 said: The fact that you keep bringing up rap songs is pretty telling, but I'll leave it at that. No no. Finish that thought. Telling of what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: No no. Finish that thought. Telling of what? Nah, we probably don't need to go there. Nothing productive comes out of that and I want to be respectful to the mods and this forum. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 Holy cow. Coming to the defense of someone using any type of slur towards anyone in 2023 is not a good look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted May 9, 2023 Report Share Posted May 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Zippy87 said: Nah, we probably don't need to go there. Nothing productive comes out of that and I want to be respectful to the mods and this forum. It is what it is. Then why say it in the first place? Pretty cowardice to not finish that thought and duck behind the cover of "being respectful". 7 minutes ago, akzipper said: Holy cow. Coming to the defense of someone using any type of slur towards anyone in 2023 is not a good look. Right because nowadays, a word is basically murder and hypocrisy is the accepted approach to life. Do as I say, not as I do. Gimme a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted May 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Ummmmmm, how 'bout them Zips??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 Plot twist: it was a good thing for Huggins to say. Hopefully Groce says the same thing on Ken Carmen’s show! Am I doing this right?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 If you ignore the outrage machine for a couple of days, they find something else to be outraged about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zippy87 Posted May 10, 2023 Report Share Posted May 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Then why say it in the first place? Pretty cowardice to not finish that thought and duck behind the cover of "being respectful". Right because nowadays, a word is basically murder and hypocrisy is the accepted approach to life. Do as I say, not as I do. Gimme a break. Bob Huggins said a stupid, ignorant comment that was wrong and everyone but you seems to get that. Your defenses of him were all over the place and, quite frankly, ridiculous. I'm not going to go further than that because I'm not trying to get a vacation from the forum. Name-call all you want if it makes you feel better. Have a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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