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[GP1]

46 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Alright MAC, your move. Go get em. 🤣

 

And people think Toledo and Ohio are coveted commodities. 

How embarrassing for Memphis. They won 11 games last year. Let me be the first to welcome them to the new G5 division. 

 

I will say, it's been nice to have an off season without all of the conference jumping. That part of college football may have run it's course. 

[a-zip]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

This was quite the ramble. I'm jealous. 

I think that is what you said 7 years ago 😉

[72 Roo]

The logical next move is for Memphis to leave the AAC for the MAC. Remember you heard it here first. They have been dying to get on UMASS's schedule. The Sunbelt has nothing on the MAC.

[Let'sGoZips94]

12 hours ago, GP1 said:

How embarrassing for Memphis. They won 11 games last year. Let me be the first to welcome them to the new G5 division. 

 

I will say, it's been nice to have an off season without all of the conference jumping. That part of college football may have run it's course. 

 

If anything, we're going to see the P4s start trimming the fat in the coming years. If the G5s position themselves right, they'll be able to add some outstanding institutions. 

[GP1]

18 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

If anything, we're going to see the P4s start trimming the fat in the coming years. If the G5s position themselves right, they'll be able to add some outstanding institutions. 

P4 won't trim the fat as in cutting weak programs. It would be a smart for the Big 10 and SEC to have their own football conference. I don't know how many schools they have between them, but the number has to be around the same as the NFL. It's become pretty obvious that the Big 22 and ACC cannot keep up with them. 

[Section210Zip]

Hey it could be worse

 

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/20-college-football-programs-most-225502685.html

[Section210Zip]

Who ever did that list must of over looked the MAC. Both Kent and Eastern should have made it with 608 and 630. There are probably others but i knew those two have been historically bad. 

[ZippyRulz]

Interesting list. A lot of those teams have turned things around to say the least.

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

This will likely involve punishment for CMU. 

 

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

Akron needs to lawyer up and fight the postseason ban. Precedent was just set. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

[GP1]

54 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Akron needs to lawyer up and fight the postseason ban. Precedent was just set. 

Why would we pay for a law firm to fight for a result that would cost us money?

[AkronAlumnus]

1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Akron needs to lawyer up and fight the postseason ban. Precedent was just set. 

I agree but we have to prove damages.  If UA gets six wins then files for the injunction there will be a mass #FreeAkron campaign but we need something to kick that off.   If they are going to stink or be modestly better, but not bowl eligible, then there's no reason to fight it. 

 

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

3 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said:

I agree but we have to prove damages.  If UA gets six wins then files for the injunction there will be a mass #FreeAkron campaign but we need something to kick that off.   If they are going to stink or be modestly better, but not bowl eligible, then there's no reason to fight it. 

 

 

 

I can agree with this. There already is a decent #FreeAkron campaign based on the precedent, too. If Akron is successful this year and ends up being bowl eligible or even in contention for the MAC Championship Game, look out. It'll be similar to the JMU postseason campaign from a couple years ago. 

[GP1]

2 hours ago, AkronAlumnus said:

I agree but we have to prove damages.  If UA gets six wins then files for the injunction there will be a mass #FreeAkron campaign but we need something to kick that off.   If they are going to stink or be modestly better, but not bowl eligible, then there's no reason to fight it. 

 

 

I'd be difficult to prove damages when making a bowl game would cost the school more than it would make. 

[zvillezip]

Lt.Gov. Tressel should be pushing for the NCAA to #FreeAkron.  Would also help if Senators Moreno and Husted got involved and VP Vance.

[Let'sGoZips94]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

I'd be difficult to prove damages when making a bowl game would cost the school more than it would make. 

 

For someone who preaches "how does the University benefit the community", you sure are hellbent on making sure the University is stuck with the "banned from postseason play" label, which certainly does NOT benefit the community.

[GP1]

1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

For someone who preaches "how does the University benefit the community", you sure are hellbent on making sure the University is stuck with the "banned from postseason play" label, which certainly does NOT benefit the community.

I don't think fighting the post season ban is a fight worth having. Akron didn't live up to Akron's obligations as a member of the NCAA. Akron is getting punished for Akron's actions. Accepting punishment for wrongdoing is the adult thing to do. Another adult thing to do would be to learn from this lesson and get better, not call a lawyer. 

 

We're four months away from bowl season. The best we could hope for is to get a temporary injunction until the case could go to trial in 2026. Do you have any idea how full Federal Court dockets are? How long do you want this drama to go on until we ultimately lose a case? What if Akron loses the case and next year at this time we are having the same conversation?  How is anyone being helped carrying on with this case? 

 

Adult conversation over....  Meetings over. 

 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by GP1

[ZipCat]

1 hour ago, zvillezip said:

 Moreno and Husted ... and VP Vance.

 

Ah yes, the three stooges. 

Edited 7 hours ago by ZipCat

[kreed5120]

21 minutes ago, GP1 said:

I don't think fighting the post season ban is a fight worth having. Akron didn't live up to Akron's obligations as a member of the NCAA. Akron is getting punished for Akron's actions. Accepting punishment for wrongdoing is the adult thing to do. Another adult thing to do would be to learn from this lesson and get better, not call a lawyer. 

 

We're four months away from bowl season. The best we could hope for is to get a temporary injunction until the case could go to trial in 2026. Do you have any idea how full Federal Court dockets are? How long do you want this drama to go on until we ultimately lose a case? What if Akron loses the case and next year at this time we are having the same conversation?  How is anyone being helped carrying on with this case? 

 

Adult conversation over....  Meetings over. 

 

 

 

I agree with everything you stated here. I just want to add that going to court would ultimately just lead to the ABJ publishing several stories on it, which just gives the school and program a bad look.

 

Ultimately it's unlikely the Zips will win 6 games to make bowl eligibility anyway. We've already taken the brunt of the bad PR. No need to make it resurface when odds are we aren't going to a bowl regardless.

[ZippyRulz]

10 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Erroneous post... it was for a low academic progress rate, not "bad grades"

 

[GP1]

4 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I agree with everything you stated here. I just want to add that going to court would ultimately just lead to the ABJ publishing several stories on it, which just gives the school and program a bad look.

 

Ultimately it's unlikely the Zips will win 6 games to make bowl eligibility anyway. We've already taken the brunt of the bad PR. No need to make it resurface when odds are we aren't going to a bowl regardless.

The ABJ wouldn't give Akron a bad look in this case. Akron would be giving itself a bad look. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

4 hours ago, GP1 said:

I don't think fighting the post season ban is a fight worth having. Akron didn't live up to Akron's obligations as a member of the NCAA. Akron is getting punished for Akron's actions. Accepting punishment for wrongdoing is the adult thing to do. Another adult thing to do would be to learn from this lesson and get better, not call a lawyer. 

 

We're four months away from bowl season. The best we could hope for is to get a temporary injunction until the case could go to trial in 2026. Do you have any idea how full Federal Court dockets are? How long do you want this drama to go on until we ultimately lose a case? What if Akron loses the case and next year at this time we are having the same conversation?  How is anyone being helped carrying on with this case? 

 

Adult conversation over....  Meetings over. 

 

 

 

The precedent was set today that the actions of previous regimes should not penalize the current roster. Whatever moral high horse you want to stand on is your choice, but I don't view accepting an inconsistent and undeserving punishment for the current staff & roster as morally just - especially from the morally bankrupt NCAA. The amount of times they've screwed over the University... F em. Auburn and NMSU weren't penalized for failing APRs in the same time frame as Akron, and the APR doesn't even work with the current model and landscape for college athletics. Akron has had YOY improvements under JoeMo that haven't been enough to pull us out of the hole Arth dug, so they've clearly been working towards correcting the problem. I also don't think Akron loses this case if they choose to fight it, especially if they were able to get the NCAA killer Dave Yost's assistance in the fight. A win vs the NCAA would be great publicity. 

 

4 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

I agree with everything you stated here. I just want to add that going to court would ultimately just lead to the ABJ publishing several stories on it, which just gives the school and program a bad look.

 

Ultimately it's unlikely the Zips will win 6 games to make bowl eligibility anyway. We've already taken the brunt of the bad PR. No need to make it resurface when odds are we aren't going to a bowl regardless.

 

Show me 7 automatic losses on this schedule. It's the most winnable schedule we've had in a long long time, and 6-6 should be the minimum threshold for success this year. Akron is known for having a losing football program - the PR can't get worse. Might as well try to get rid of the cloud hanging over the season.

 

 

 

Joe Mo and player(s) have liked tweets today mentioning their BS punishment and suggesting that Akron should fight it. Coaching and playing with this looming over the program can't be fun or easy. Having a spine and standing up to the NCAA could give the program a jolt. 

 

[kreed5120]

21 minutes ago, GP1 said:

The ABJ wouldn't give Akron a bad look in this case. Akron would be giving itself a bad look. 

Touché

[kreed5120]

12 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Show me 7 automatic losses on this schedule. It's the most winnable schedule we've had in a long long time, and 6-6 should be the minimum threshold for success this year. 

 

I never stated that 6-6 was impossible, just that it was very unlikely to achieve. Nothing I've seen from Moorhead thus far gives me confidence that he can right this ship given the financial limitations he faces. I'll let the season play out to see the final record, but I would be absolutely stunned if we sniff 6 wins.