GoZips86 Posted November 28, 2022 Report Share Posted November 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, 94zipgrad said: Does anyone else feel like Tom Herman probably falls in the good OC but not a HC after many chances? I don't know, he had two great seasons at Houston with an undefeated record at home during his time there. I think he was perfect for that gig, but then got greedy and wanted to go the University of Texas, which has been a kiss of death for coaches since Mack Brown left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 minute ago, GoZips86 said: I don't know, he had two great seasons at Houston with an undefeated record at home during his time there. I think he was perfect for that gig, but then got greedy and wanted to go the University of Texas, which has been a kiss of death for coaches since Mack Brown left. And he really didn't do bad at Texas, just didn't live up to their top 5 program wannabe standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 18 hours ago, catdaddyp said: Urban Meyer is atop their wishlist. Other potential candidates are: Tom Herman Alex Golesh Jesse Minter Mike Denbrock Mike Tressel Brian Hartline Kerry Coombs Take this for what it’s worth… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 16 minutes ago, catdaddyp said: Take this for what it’s worth… Really, Deion Sanders? Don't get me wrong he has a good year this year at the FCS level, but his team was significantly more talented than anyone he faced. It's still to be seen how good of a coach he'll be when he's facing teams that are equally or more talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Really, Deion Sanders? Don't get me wrong he has a good year this year at the FCS level, but his team was significantly more talented than anyone he faced. It's still to be seen how good of a coach he'll be when he's facing teams that are equally or more talented. Isn't this the case with OSUcks, Bama, etc.? The name of the game is recruiting. At that level (Cincy entering the Big 12), good coaches bring in the most talent possible, establish the culture, then stay out of their talents' way. Deion has proven to 1) recruit damn well and 2) be able to establish a strong culture. Personally, I'd love to see Cincy hire Brian Hartline simply to send OSUcks fans into a panic attack of epic proportions. Edited November 29, 2022 by Let'sGoZips94 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Isn't this the case with OSUcks, Bama, etc.? The name of the game is recruiting. At that level (Cincy entering the Big 12), good coaches bring in the most talent possible, establish the culture, then stay out of their talents' way. Deion has proven to 1) recruit damn well and 2) be able to establish a strong culture. Personally, I'd love to see Cincy hire Brian Hartline simply to send OSUcks fans into a panic attack of epic proportions. Yes, recruiting is a huge part of coaching at the collegiate level. I just don't see him being able to out recruit the other Big 12 schools as badly as he's able to out recruit the HBCUs that he's currently facing. He's running out his 3* and 4* recruits against teams filled with guys Rivals didn't even bother giving stars to. Edit: I want to be clear I'm not saying he can't be good at the FBS level. I'm just surprised he's getting P5 interest so soon. I would have expected him to receive interest from G5 schools. Edited November 29, 2022 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 hours ago, kreed5120 said: Yes, recruiting is a huge part of coaching at the collegiate level. I just don't see him being able to out recruit the other Big 12 schools as badly as he's able to out recruit the HBCUs that he's currently facing. He's running out his 3* and 4* recruits against teams filled with guys Rivals didn't even bother giving stars to. Edit: I want to be clear I'm not saying he can't be good at the FBS level. I'm just surprised he's getting P5 interest so soon. I would have expected him to receive interest from G5 schools. At the P5 level, he'll certainly have a tougher time out-recruiting his adversaries. But at the HBCU level, he out-recruited P5s not just HBCU/G5s. Not an entire class but to land the caliber of player he has at Jackson State, he'll be able to take that anywhere and with even more to offer than just himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 On 11/27/2022 at 6:47 PM, catdaddyp said: Tulane’s Willie Fritz headed to Georgia Tech. Looks like this report was false. GT removing the interim tag and keeping Brent Key. Things change quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: But at the HBCU level, he out-recruited P5s not just HBCU/G5s. Not an entire class but to land the caliber of player he has at Jackson State, he'll be able to take that anywhere and with even more to offer than just himself. The level of difficulty it took to land Hunter depends whether or not you believe the reports that Barstool Sports paid Hunter $1.5 million in NIL to go to said HBCU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted November 29, 2022 Report Share Posted November 29, 2022 If Deion was able to land the # 1 recruit in the nation at an FCS school, I'm sure he would do just fine recruiting at FBS level. I think it would be awesome to see him at Cincinnati. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: The level of difficulty it took to land Hunter depends whether or not you believe the reports that Barstool Sports paid Hunter $1.5 million in NIL to go to said HBCU. $1.5M would barely crack the Top 10 Most Lucrative NIL Deals ... So far... Also I do believe the report. Portnoy has F Off money, and he throws it around like it's candy at a parade. He the Hunter deal was a marketing promo for Barstool's NIL program where they sponsor college athletes from any sport. It's a similar strategy to his College Basketball Invitational at Philly to get 2 Ohio schools so they can promote their sportsbook. Edited November 30, 2022 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) That list is filled with proven stars who were on watchlists to be the best at their positions coming into the season. The only true freshman I see is Quinn Ewers and he plays the most important position on the field. Caleb Williams is going to win the Heisman. Of course proven stars will make more money. Edited November 30, 2022 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Trent Dilfer new HC at UAB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, catdaddyp said: Trent Dilfer new HC at UAB. I read the McMurphy tweet as I was waking up this morning and thought I was still asleep and dreaming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 Herman to FAU. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, LZIp said: Herman to FAU. FAU is becoming Career Resurrection U. Sounds like Deion is down to Colorado or Cincy. He played for the Reds so I don't know if that would play a factor at all. Sounds like Colorado is the heavy favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted December 2, 2022 Report Share Posted December 2, 2022 16 hours ago, LZIp said: Herman to FAU. He should do very well there, back in the AAC (although "P6" is dead) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 And the Suckeyes are going to back their way into another Playoff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 (edited) Deion to Colorado. His son (Jackson State QB) will likely follow along with the other top recruits he's had at JSU. I think Deion sees the PAC12 as ripe for the taking with USC and UCLA departing. Edited December 3, 2022 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 On 11/29/2022 at 1:28 PM, Let'sGoZips94 said: Deion has proven to 1) recruit damn well and 2) be able to establish a strong culture. You're right. He'll be a good coach anywhere. The culture is the hardest part. He is a two time Super Bowl champion, Hall of Famer and top 100 NFL player. If you aren't old enough to remember his playing days, he was awesome. Because of his greatness as a player he can demand more from players and they will listen and respond. My understanding is he is an old school coach and very demanding of his players in practice and behind closed doors. That means a lot. I know a guy who played with him in Atlanta. He told me once the doors closed and the cameras weren't on, Sanders was a different guy in a good way. He said he was one of the nicest guys on the team and treated everyone well. Sanders autographed a bunch of jerseys and posters for his son's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 3, 2022 Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: And the Suckeyes are going to back their way into another Playoff. He must have just finished watching round one of the college football playoffs last year. The only thing that can solve this problem is a 12 team playoff. More trash, less vomiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2022 5 hours ago, GP1 said: He must have just finished watching round one of the college football playoffs last year. The only thing that can solve this problem is a 12 team playoff. More trash, less vomiting. These 9-3 teams that are beating the top 4 would be in and have a shot - count me in for that. This exclusive 3-4 team country club needs knocked off, and I'm excited for that to happen. Does the committee leapfrog TCU with OSUcks for their precious $$$ matchup of Michigan/OSUcks? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 5 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: These 9-3 teams that are beating the top 4 would be in and have a shot - count me in for that. Establish the top 4 after this weekend and all will be solved. In fact, establish a top 2. I'd complain more, but I've realized how horrible the playoffs are and I ignore them. It's a complete joke being played on us by television networks. Much like the World Cup. It does little more than trapping the unknowing in front of a television to throw back beers while watching trash. Much like a #1 vs $16 March Madness game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted December 4, 2022 Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 11/28/2022 at 3:56 PM, Let'sGoZips94 said: Add Stanford, Arizona State, Colorado, and Wisconsin to this list given the PAC12 & Big 52 (Big Ten) experience/connections on this staff. Especially Colorado; their new coach just can't get players excited about playing for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted December 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Zipmeister said: Especially Colorado; their new coach just can't get players excited about playing for him. I think there will still be quite a bit of roster turnover at Colorado due to the influx of elevated talent Deion will bring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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