Game 7- CMU

[dirtyolcrowe]

This team sucks!!!!!

[GP1]

I was somewhere watching a bunch of games at once. The USC vs Florida and Washington vs Oregon games were on. If you were a fan of USC or Oregon now, you would be extremely disappointed, but you couldn't say your entire team didn't play competently and gave it their all in two great college football games. 

 

The Akron vs CMU game was a game of two incompetents who generally tried hard in a bad football game. That was just trash.  Can we really no field a team that can win in this trash league?

[3rd&twenty]

Joe’s going to want another contract extension after this one. 

[GP1]

8 minutes ago, 3rd&twenty said:

Joe’s going to want another contract extension after this one. 

What's your point?

[MangoZip]

1 hour ago, taylormade28 said:

why the hell a TE in the game in a 2 min drive WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do we even have tight ends? The rest of the world uses them more than ever but they are invisible in this offense. I guess the offense is purring so smoothly that they aren’t needed! 

[zzx]

4 hours ago, zipsrowdy88 said:

I cannot believe he is out there still??? 

 

I thought the coaches wouldn't let Bullock throw another pass in a game, let alone start a game, after watching Bullock's first pass of the season a few games ago; which was an awkward screen pass thrown 10 yards behind the receiver on a 3rd and 1.

 

At least Undercuffler is the only QB that has won a game against an fbs opponent as a starting QB under Moorehead.

Edited October 15, 2023 by zzx

[Chrisball96]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

I was somewhere watching a bunch of games at once. The USC vs Florida and Washington vs Oregon games were on. If you were a fan of USC or Oregon now, you would be extremely disappointed, but you couldn't say your entire team didn't play competently and gave it their all in two great college football games. 

 

The Akron vs CMU game was a game of two incompetents who generally tried hard in a bad football game. That was just trash.  Can we really no field a team that can win in this trash league?

I wondered earlier this week if it wouldn’t be better to give Undercuffler a shot after what happened against NIU. I just don’t get what JM saw in Bullock and this week was just as ugly. If you don’t have a QB who can throw the ball even on a basic level we’re just never gonna have a shot. 

[GP1]

19 minutes ago, Chrisball96 said:

I wondered earlier this week if it wouldn’t be better to give Undercuffler a shot after what happened against NIU. I just don’t get what JM saw in Bullock and this week was just as ugly. If you don’t have a QB who can throw the ball even on a basic level we’re just never gonna have a shot. 

He needs to find out quickly if Bullock can play at the D1 level or not. I think the answer is no. I also understand he washed outta VA Tech, please correct me if I'm wrong. Tech is a horrible program right now. If he couldn't get on the field, what made the staff think he could succeed at a high level in the MAC?  

 

Akron doesn't have an eternity waiting for someone to develop. There is not a guy on the current roster capable of getting Akron to where it needs to be next year. By that I mean 6 wins minimum. Finding a quality starting QB in the transfer portal must be the #1 priority of the coaching staff this off season. 

[Chrisball96]

13 minutes ago, GP1 said:

He needs to find out quickly if Bullock can play at the D1 level or not. I think the answer is no. I also understand he washed outta VA Tech, please correct me if I'm wrong. Tech is a horrible program right now. If he couldn't get on the field, what made the staff think he could succeed at a high level in the MAC?  

 

Akron doesn't have an eternity waiting for someone to develop. There is not a guy on the current roster capable of getting Akron to where it needs to be next year. By that I mean 6 wins minimum. Finding a quality starting QB in the transfer portal must be the #1 priority of the coaching staff this off season. 

Yes the Hokies are 3-4 and their 2 QBs have a combined 54.6 completion percentage. So it’s not like Bullock was beat out by some stellar player. 
 

Undercuffler isn’t going to knock anyone’s socks off but I just don’t see how anyone can look at how Bullock has played and think that he gives us the better chance to win, but I could be wrong. 

[GP1]

21 minutes ago, Chrisball96 said:

Yes the Hokies are 3-4 and their 2 QBs have a combined 54.6 completion percentage. So it’s not like Bullock was beat out by some stellar player. 
 

Undercuffler isn’t going to knock anyone’s socks off but I just don’t see how anyone can look at how Bullock has played and think that he gives us the better chance to win, but I could be wrong. 

U is the best of bad choices. 

[zipsrowdy88]

I dont really see how it can get worse. I used to feel bad that this team deserved better fan attendance, etc. Not anymore. I stuck with this team for a long time this year, stood on my box multiple times about how we need to calm the hell down. Not anymore man. These guys are helpless. Starts with Joe "offensive genius" Morehead. 

[Chrisball96]

18 minutes ago, zipsrowdy88 said:

I dont really see how it can get worse. I used to feel bad that this team deserved better fan attendance, etc. Not anymore. I stuck with this team for a long time this year, stood on my box multiple times about how we need to calm the hell down. Not anymore man. These guys are helpless. Starts with Joe "offensive genius" Morehead. 

I know he doesn’t play defense and he wouldn’t have done much to stop giving up 55 points to NIU, but today especially is a game I just feel like we could have won if Irons plays. Injuries to your QB kill any team especially one like ours where we have basically no other real options to generate any kind of offense. 

[LZIp]

1 hour ago, zipsrowdy88 said:

I dont really see how it can get worse. I used to feel bad that this team deserved better fan attendance, etc. Not anymore. I stuck with this team for a long time this year, stood on my box multiple times about how we need to calm the hell down. Not anymore man. These guys are helpless. Starts with Joe "offensive genius" Morehead. 

Starts and stops with Joe and Fessler IMO. OL could be better which makes running game and QB job tougher, but that’s an incredibly tough position group to fix overnight. Our two higher profile transfers (Blanchard and Kindred) are injured, Landers failed out, but I think we are building that room solid for the future, plus already have a good transfer coming in next season.

 

If Jankowski has no hope of ever playing (which we all seem to know), we shouldn’t be wasting a scholly on him at the most important position in football. Undercuffler is what he is. Bullock is in his 3rd year of D1 FBS football and still has a long way to go. Jennings and Wasel each were pretty solid recruits, but apparently are at least 4th and 5th on the depth chart with no shot at playing . If the entire season was hinged on an injury prone DJ Irons (who I don’t even blame considering the amount of run usage a prototypical Joe Mo offense has) coming off of shoulder surgery on his throwing shoulder, no other way to put it than a failure by our offensive staff.

 

I said in another post I don’t think an experienced starter candidate was coming here to potentially sit on the bench, but I expected more out of the players the staff has brought in at the position and it just doesn’t seem to be there.

Edited October 15, 2023 by LZIp

[Zippyroo]

5 hours ago, dirtyolcrowe said:

This team sucks!!!!!

Arth looking good right now….Moorhead better clue up and find new some new position coaches on offense or he will find himself on the chopping block. 

[Blue & Gold]

10 hours ago, GP1 said:

He needs to find out quickly if Bullock can play at the D1 level or not. I think the answer is no. I also understand he washed outta VA Tech, please correct me if I'm wrong. Tech is a horrible program right now. If he couldn't get on the field, what made the staff think he could succeed at a high level in the MAC?  

 

Akron doesn't have an eternity waiting for someone to develop. There is not a guy on the current roster capable of getting Akron to where it needs to be next year. By that I mean 6 wins minimum. Finding a quality starting QB in the transfer portal must be the #1 priority of the coaching staff this off season. 

Yes. This year I was fully expecting us to win 6 games, finish 3rd in the MAC East (behind OU & Miami),  and gain bowl eligibility.  With that expectation, I was also prepared to take a step back next year as we would be watching a young Wassel take his lumps and fight through growing pains being a Redshirt Freshman starting QB.  But not now. We can't patiently wait for Wassel to develop.  We need to win next year.

[clarkwgriswold]

Groundhog day.  Here we are again kicking the can down the street to next season.  Sigh.

 

If Akron football was a business it would be shut down in under a month.

[GP1]

2 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

Yes. This year I was fully expecting us to win 6 games, finish 3rd in the MAC East (behind OU & Miami),  and gain bowl eligibility.  With that expectation, I was also prepared to take a step back next year as we would be watching a young Wassel take his lumps and fight through growing pains being a Redshirt Freshman starting QB.  But not now. We can't patiently wait for Wassel to develop.  We need to win next year.

If Akron doesn't win at least 5 games next year, the JoeMo years will begin to crumble. They will lose players and not be able to replace them. They will also begin to lose critical coaches and not fill the spots with anyone as good. Programs foundations are built on more than players. 

 

If Wasel was Joe's guy, he should have started the season. Redshirting is an antiquated concept in 2023. I've never seen him play, but he couldn't beat out the 3 bums we have started this year?  It's concerning. 

 

The Bullock disaster is a good learning lesson for fans. Just because a player transfers from a school you have heard of and was once good, that doesn't mean the player is good. There are lots of failed scholarship players at big schools. The schools the transfer portal benefits the most are the P5 schools, especially the elite programs. It's a place they can dump their trash and replace with a better opportunity. Every once in a while, someone finds something really valuable at the landfill. We have to be smart about what we bring home from the landfill. 

[AkronAlumnus]

Any Morehead fanboys left from last season? 

[AkronAlumnus]

in all honesty, Morehead might not be better than Arth, but he's certainly not worse - both can be buns

Edited October 15, 2023 by AkronAlumnus

[GP1]

4 minutes ago, AkronAlumnus said:

Any Morehead fanboys left from last season? 

Don't know what a fanboy is, but I think he's our best shot at resurrecting the program. Akron is in a position where the president, AD and head coach are all in alignment. This is typically a winning situation. 

 

Akron should have 3 more wins this season and the failures fall on the shoulders of some of the players, and veterans as well. At least Joe put the team in a position to win. He can't kick or throw the ball. 

 

My biggest complaint about him is what looks like a failure to have "his guy" on the field playing QB. Maybe the combination doesn't stop at the head coach, but looks something like this  President -AD-Coach-QB. 

[zippy-claws]

I kinda got talked into getting on Instagram to see things about my out-of-state grandkids, and I happened to "follow" the FB team there.  I get inundated by pictures of all the FB players the days leading up to a game, and they're all "tough guy" poses, and "in-your-face" looks.  If they spent more time working on basics, rather than posing for their Instagram account, they might be better off.  Nothing like a 1-5 team who loses to the likes of NIU, Buff and CMU posing as FB players then losing again that week.  IMHO.  Of course, then I get the women's soccer posts as well, and they show the women having all sorts of "funnzie" games and smiley faces, and they've won 2 matches all year.  How about winning, then post your winning poses.

[Lee Adams]

14 hours ago, Chrisball96 said:

I wondered earlier this week if it wouldn’t be better to give Undercuffler a shot after what happened against NIU. I just don’t get what JM saw in Bullock and this week was just as ugly. If you don’t have a QB who can throw the ball even on a basic level we’re just never gonna have a shot. 

Well, at least they scored in the 2nd half(lol). It seems like we are always posting about how bad the offense is! To me it is beyond disbelief that Moorehead hasn't figured out the situation at QB specifically or the offense generally. IMHO, this has nothing to do with Irons' injury. The offense except for the Indiana mirage hasn't progressed no matter which QB Moorehead picked out of the hat that includes Irons. In fact I think the play calling by the coaches has contributed mightily to putting the QBs in bad positions not to metion hanging the defense out to dry. Moorehead has complicated the situation by going with a QB who was obviuosly physically impaired by injurires. He then couldn't decide on who to play and still hasn't. The passing game is a dumpster fire. And, Moorehead won't consitently use his run game.

As I said before, I am worried what happens in the off season with the transfer portal. Some of the more talented kids aren't likely to stick around. And, who is he going to be able to convince to come here given the poor quality of the program for years? Sad.

[1981 grad]

17 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

I was clambering for Bullock because Undercuffler was Underwhelming every time I saw him and I figured it'd be worth it to see what we'll have on the roster going forward.

 

 What were the coaches seeing that would even think Bullock was on the same planet as Undercuffler? 

Everyone on this board watched Bullock for 7 quarters and came to the same opinion, he is not a division one quarterback.  What is he doing in practice to get the confidence of the coaches?  

[UAZippers]

7 minutes ago, 1981 grad said:

Everyone on this board watched Bullock for 7 quarters and came to the same opinion, he is not a division one quarterback.  What is he doing in practice to get the confidence of the coaches?  

I really, truly, believe that it is less about what Bullock is doing in practice and has much more to do with how bad the other options are. If you remember, at the beginning of the season, Moorhead was very open about the fact that Bullock is not ready to play. I think it just got to the point where it seemed like he was the only one who might develop into something useful eventually. It seems like that reality is highly unlikely now as well. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

5 minutes ago, 1981 grad said:

Everyone on this board watched Bullock for 7 quarters and came to the same opinion, he is not a division one quarterback.  What is he doing in practice to get the confidence of the coaches?  

 

I figured there was something they saw in practice that gave them confidence with Bullock in the game. I attributed the first game struggles more to play calling. While I still attribute a lot of our offensive struggles to playing, the CMU game proved that Bullock doesn't have it between the ears, let alone the skill. 

 

The coaching staff's ability to call plays AND evaluate/develop talent is 100% in question. Zips fans are left wondering how an offense under the coaching hand of an "offensive genius" is so inept. 

 

Even when Undercuffler came in and led them down the field for a TD, it was the Stefanski effect where there was probably a scripted play call sheet that caught the defense off guard, and once the defense adjusted, it was back to the garbage offense.