The World of College Basketball

[zippy5]

34 minutes ago, Illini Zip said:

Illinois will land on this list easily. 

This is USD and not Euros though 😆

[kreed5120]

40 minutes ago, Illini Zip said:

Illinois will land on this list easily. 

I feel several of these are understated. Texas Tech was already at ~10M this year and reports are NIL spend is expected to increase 35% this year. If they remained close to that I'd expect more like $13M-$14M spend.

 

I feel the ones that are mostly accurate are the ones that had coaching changes as they had to advertise their spend to attract new coaches. There is very little incentive for a Duke, Illinois, or Arkansas to divulge what they plan to spend.

[exit322]

1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

The Guardians have the lowest payroll in baseball and just took 2/3 from the Billionaire Dodgers - the actual Billionaire Dodgers, not just what Senderoff sees in his nightmares. System, culture, and coaching are the most important components. Always have been, always will be. 

 

Just think what would be if the Dolans actually tried to win.  They might actually be contenders if/when baseball goes to a salary cap (that has a strict floor tied to it)

[kreed5120]

Just now, exit322 said:

 

Just think what would be if the Dolans actually tried to win.  They might actually be contenders if/when baseball goes to a salary cap (that has a strict floor tied to it)

 

We'll have to see what MLB owners have to sacrifice in exchange for a hypothetical salary cap. A big reason the Guardians remain competitive while keeping a low payroll is player development. A lot of Guardian players are with the team 6, 7, 8 years before they get to hit free agency. I would imagine the players union would push to shorten this and allow players to make far more than they do currently there first 3 years of league service.

[exit322]

9 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

We'll have to see what MLB owners have to sacrifice in exchange for a hypothetical salary cap. A big reason the Guardians remain competitive while keeping a low payroll is player development. A lot of Guardian players are with the team 6, 7, 8 years before they get to hit free agency. I would imagine the players union would push to shorten this and allow players to make far more than they do currently there first 3 years of league service.

 

Very true.  I am comfortable the Guardians' FO is strong enough to weather those storms, but the whole structure will change with a cap coming.

[Let'sGoZips94]

Help is on the way?

[UAZipster0305]

6 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Help is on the way?

This will undoubtedly be challenged in court and fail. There is no justice for an open market for all labor associated with college sports (coaches, administrators, etc.) except for the athletes.

 

The current system definitely needs fixed, but reciprocity is the way to go about it.

Edited Friday at 08:46 PM by UAZipster0305

[kreed5120]

3 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Help is on the way?

Was just now reading a longer article. Who knows how it would hold up in the courts. 

 

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/donald-trump-president-executive-order-college-sports-transfers-eligibility-nil/

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

1 hour ago, UAZipster0305 said:

This will undoubtedly be challenged in court and fail. There is no justice for an open market for all labor associated with college sports (coaches, administrators, etc.) except for the athletes.

 

The current system definitely needs fixed, but reciprocity is the way to go about it.

 

Maybe this forces reciprocity as the solution, but I'm not seeing a willingness by the suits to put logical, common sense restrictions on the current system. 

 

Who knows how this holds up in court or what it results in, but at least it's an action in the right direction. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

This is where the FTRC/Wentz model becomes so important. It honors the true nature of NIL and long term wealth management. 

 

[LZIp]

3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

This is where the FTRC/Wentz model becomes so important. It honors the true nature of NIL and long term wealth management. 

 

Does it though? I think there’s good intentions behind it, but I’ve only seen Enrique in an ad and a couple players who have had gear sold with their names on them, and that was only briefly.

[Let'sGoZips94]

8 minutes ago, LZIp said:

Does it though? I think there’s good intentions behind it, but I’ve only seen Enrique in an ad and a couple players who have had gear sold with their names on them, and that was only briefly.

 

The Wentz model isn't about gear being sold from what I can tell. It's about long-term financial security and being rewarded for sticking around the program. 

[kreed5120]

44 minutes ago, LZIp said:

Does it though? I think there’s good intentions behind it, but I’ve only seen Enrique in an ad and a couple players who have had gear sold with their names on them, and that was only briefly.

 

Akron is theoretically way under the $20.5 million that teams are technically allowed to revenue share and wouldn't fall under the scope of NIL. If it somehow could become a problem they could always roll the fear the roo collective into the ACE fund and Bud could continue to help oversee it.

Edited Saturday at 01:47 AM by kreed5120

[clarkwgriswold]

On 4/3/2026 at 5:51 PM, Let'sGoZips94 said:

This is where the FTRC/Wentz model becomes so important. It honors the true nature of NIL and long term wealth management. 

 

The executive order is just more political grandstanding that will eventually get struck down.

[Illini Zip]

22 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

The executive order is just more political grandstanding that will eventually get struck down.

I have no idea what the answer is, but I’m pretty convinced at this point that the NCAA isn’t it. 

[kreed5120]

1 hour ago, Illini Zip said:

I have no idea what the answer is, but I’m pretty convinced at this point that the NCAA isn’t it. 

 

The thing is once the door was opened slightly this is always what it was going to turn into. In part it's why the NCAA fought change for so long. They have tried a few times to restore order, but have lost in court every single time. The same way this EO will play out. 

 

The only way for this to play out and balance to be restored is collective bargaining. I just don't see what incentive the players would have to do that. They're already getting everything they want. Why would they agree to restrict movement or put hard caps on salary?

 

I have seen a few players taken to court and at least 1 or 2 settled for backing out of their contract. In the case of the Duke QB it was a 2 year deal. Perhaps make 2 year deals the standard with hefty buyouts built in. That way it at least creates a bit more stability and offers some compensation if a player leaves before they play their 2 years.

Edited Sunday at 01:11 PM by kreed5120

[Illini Zip]

12 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

The thing is once the door was opened slightly this is always what it was going to turn into. In part it's why the NCAA fought change for so long. They have tried a few times to restore order, but have lost in court every single time. The same way this EO will play out. 

 

The only way for this to play out and balance to be restored is collective bargaining. I just don't see what incentive the players would have to do that. They're already getting everything they want. Why would they agree to restrict movement or put hard caps on salary?

 

I have seen a few players taken to court and at least 1 or 2 settled for backing out of their contract. In the case of the Duke QB it was a 2 year deal. Perhaps make 2 year deals the standard with hefty buyouts built in. That way it at least creates a bit more stability and offers some compensation if a player leaves before they play their 2 years.

That all makes sense to me, but again the NCAA was always corrupt. Now they are both corrupt and impotent. I think federal laws or tax penalties/incentives will have to be passed to reign this back in and say good bye to the relic that is the NCAA. Collective bargaining seems like the right direction. 

[clarkwgriswold]

2 hours ago, Illini Zip said:

I have no idea what the answer is, but I’m pretty convinced at this point that the NCAA isn’t it. 

Agreed.  They not only have no teeth, they have no testicles.

[GP1]

2 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said:

The executive order is just more political grandstanding that will eventually get struck down.

Politicians talk about the NCAA, I guess we have to talk about it. God, I hate doing this, but here it goes. First, executive orders like this aren't small government Republicanism. It's the government sticking it's nose in where it doesn't belong. Executive Orders are pure laziness. 

 

It's more of the same buffoonery Americans have been watching for around 11 years. Most are exhausted with him and the polls show it. Like building a wall, staying out of foreign wars, releasing the Epstein Files, and any of the large number of things he said he would do, he won't do it. He won't do it because he can't do it by himself and is not willing to put in the work to get things done. He's not an authoritarian. He's not a small government Republican. He's not a Nazi. He's not a Fascist. All of those things take hard work. He's just a lazy, buffoonish, reality TV star sitting around putting together Truth Social posts. I don't really worry about him because I don't think he has the will to actually do anything. I do laugh AT him. He's a silly old man. 

 

I was born in 1969. I can't believe in my life the Republicans have gone from a competent giant surrounded by other competent people in Reagan, to a buffoonish clown surrounded by Fox News personalities, nihilists, conspiracy theorists and general crackpots. Here is your daily dose of an example. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house-teleportation.html.

 

The only thing that could make the NCAA worse is this group of clowns trying to solve a problem they don't really want to or are willing to put the work into solving. 

[Illini Zip]

Happy Easter everyone!!

[clarkwgriswold]

2 hours ago, GP1 said:

Politicians talk about the NCAA, I guess we have to talk about it. God, I hate doing this, but here it goes. First, executive orders like this aren't small government Republicanism. It's the government sticking it's nose in where it doesn't belong. Executive Orders are pure laziness. 

 

It's more of the same buffoonery Americans have been watching for around 11 years. Most are exhausted with him and the polls show it. Like building a wall, staying out of foreign wars, releasing the Epstein Files, and any of the large number of things he said he would do, he won't do it. He won't do it because he can't do it by himself and is not willing to put in the work to get things done. He's not an authoritarian. He's not a small government Republican. He's not a Nazi. He's not a Fascist. All of those things take hard work. He's just a lazy, buffoonish, reality TV star sitting around putting together Truth Social posts. I don't really worry about him because I don't think he has the will to actually do anything. I do laugh AT him. He's a silly old man. 

 

I was born in 1969. I can't believe in my life the Republicans have gone from a competent giant surrounded by other competent people in Reagan, to a buffoonish clown surrounded by Fox News personalities, nihilists, conspiracy theorists and general crackpots. Here is your daily dose of an example. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/03/us/fema-gregg-phillips-waffle-house-teleportation.html.

 

The only thing that could make the NCAA worse is this group of clowns trying to solve a problem they don't really want to or are willing to put the work into solving. 

 

Yep, real problems in the world yet the publicity grubbing dolts in DC spend time on this and things like the BALCO scandal.

[Let'sGoZips94]

2 hours ago, Illini Zip said:

Happy Easter everyone!!

 

Happy Easter!

[Let'sGoZips94]

 

Any local companies want to do this for Akron?

[exit322]

Just now, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Any local companies want to do this for Akron?

 

Obviously a little different given Wyoming is the state's only four-year public school (there's also a Catholic College with <200 students in the state).