No Bowling This Year.

[GP1]

4 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Akron strongly encourages Joe to take an OC position elsewhere next offseason. Whoever we bring in next will be coming in handicapped as our practice time will be reduced 20% and no postseason for at least 1 year, maybe 2.

 

Shockingly he might leave this program in a worse place than the one he inherited from Arth. I wouldn't have thought that was possible.

Do you really think that the catastrophe will all be on him?

[dre22era]

If the University had any morals they would fire his overrated sleepy looking ass now and all his ass kissing defenders can leave town with him. 

Its not like its going to be a drastic dropoff without his clown ass on the sidelines. 

[ZippyRulz]

4 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said:

I'm sure there will be a long line of quality candidates ...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cris_Reisert

 

[mrelegazna]

17 hours ago, zippy5 said:

We can criticize the APR system all we want, but every other school is under the same system.

Came here to say this. That's what makes this so g_d d_mn embarrassing.  I guess no other school has done this poorly on APR since Idaho in 2014?  (and miss me with arguments amounting to, "Everyone cheats but us"). And in spite of this, we're also among the worst teams ON the field too, post-Bowden! 

This all points to not just badness, but downright incompetence. We can only hope Nemer, Goodrich and any other relevant newbloods are competent. What a fun thing to root for. Just be competent. Yay.

 

On 5/6/2025 at 8:36 PM, 72 Roo said:

Despite all this I believe building a quality, winning football program is achievable. 

 

And despite all this, I do too. Even if we get some serious miracle workers in place, it'll still take a long time. In the meantime, my goals as a fan for this season and the ones in the foreseeable future are "don't be in the conversation for worst team in the MAC" and "Don't be so bad academically that were banned from post-season." Again, yay.

 

[GP1]

On 5/6/2025 at 9:36 PM, 72 Roo said:

Despite all this I believe building a quality, winning football program is achievable. I'm tired of feeling bad every time football is mentioned.

In the NIL era, a winning team is all I care about. If there is embarrassment , it's the decades long failure on the field. I think anyone who feels bad about this story is internalizing it. Very few people give a crap about this nonsense.

 

I don't feel one bit bad about this story. In fact, I think academic standards in minor league professional sports are stupid. The players aren't here to go to school. They are here to participate in football games and make some money so ESPN has weeknight programming in the late fall. The classroom stuff should be optional. Within ten years, high level college football will be teams that are merely sponsored by universities. They could use names like, The Buckeyes brought to you by The Ohio State University. If you don't think it's going this way, you are fooling yourself. 

 

 

[GP1]

How easy would it be to pass classes and get an online college degree in the NIL era? 

 

My understanding is OSU has a WR making $4 million per year. It would only take about one to two percent of that money for a player to hire an "academic advisor". Does anyone want to write a job description for this academic advisor?

 

My interests in college athletics in recent years don't really lie in what happens during games, but the entire perversion of the American university system. It's part of our general societal decay and has been fascinating to watch. It's so gross I can't look away. 

[a-zip]

Better get some adults in the building. If you actually did the opposite of what UA leaders have done over the past decades, we’d be alright. But now we have
Declining enrollment 

Increasing debt

Empty stadiums

Horrible football made up of dummies

 

Total embarrassment. 
 

We’re going to do this clip at the Info this season. What’s your name

[kreed5120]

I used to believe Akron could consistently be competitive in football and that was true pre-NIL era. Now our enrollment has shrunk considerably and even programs like EMU are getting 7 figure donations for their collectives. We aren't going to be able to win in a system where our competition is able to pay $100k for a starting OL, but we can only afford to pay $30k (numbers are made up, but inputed to emphasize a point).

 

Unless some massive donors come out of the woodwork, I just don't see how Akron can win, at least to the consistency of someone like a Toledo.

Edited 10 hours ago by kreed5120

[akzipper]

I remember when I was at UA, the football players always had a sense of entitlement and arrogance. The ones I had class with never showed up and when they did it was a joke. Crazy part is I was there during the Ianello years and the team was a complete joke, while the soccer team was competing for National Championships. Yet none of them acted that way. Probably doesn't help that Akron has to scrape the bottom of the barrel for guys who can't crack it at P5 schools. Naturally this leads to academic and behavioral issues. This culture has existed well before Moorhead and will exist afterwards.

 

I'd like to think this is the kick in the butt this program needs. But honestly it feels like the beginning of the end.

Edited 11 hours ago by akzipper

[tpsjugglerdude]

Without having a chance at a post season, we might have to resort to recruiting in the Butchelite again. 

[UA1996MAENG]

2 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

I used to believe Akron could consistently be competitive in football and that was true pre-NIL area. Now our enrollment has shrunk considerably and even programs like EMU are getting 7 figure donations for their collectives. We aren't going to be able to win in a system where our competition is able to pay $100k for a starting OL, but we can only afford to pay $30k (numbers are made up, but inputed to emphasize a point).

 

Unless some massive donors come out of the woodwork, I just don't see how Akron can win, at least to the consistency of someone like a Toledo.

One way or the other, the axe of reality is going to fall on most of the G5. The money just isn't there, and even some of the rich programs are sacrificing the Olympic sports to prop up football, which, let's be honest, even at Toledo few really care about it. Front-loading entire athletic departments toward football and basketball while cutting other sports is eventually going to invoke some interpretation of Title IX or spur the advent of new legislation to protect scholarships and opportunities for students who actually go to classes, pass classes, and graduate instead of smoking dope in the elevators of the Exchange Street Residence Hall (Sorry to vent but I had enough of that when I was moving my kid into his dorm room).  At this point, as a loyal UA alumnus, I just don't give a damn about football anymore if it's going to be a money-draining, losing embarrassment. Joe must go. 

Edited 9 hours ago by UA1996MAENG

[MangoZip]

1 hour ago, akzipper said:

I remember when I was at UA, the football players always had a sense of entitlement and arrogance. The ones I had class with never showed up and when they did it was a joke. Crazy part is I was there during the Ianello years and the team was a complete joke, while the soccer team was competing for National Championships. Yet none of them acted that way. Probably doesn't help that Akron has to scrape the bottom of the barrel for guys who can't crack it at P5 schools. Naturally this leads to academic and behavioral issues. This culture has existed well before Moorhead and will exist afterwards.

 

I'd like to think this is the kick in the butt this program needs. But honestly it feels like the beginning of the end.

This program is far from perfect but you can find students/ex students at every school in the country that has this same take. Very predictable 

[egregiousbob]

Nothing changes unless people voice their concerns directly to the people in charge, including Nemer and the BOT.

[dre22era]

Its bad enough we are currently in a dynasty of losing but if you also can't produce a roster of APR passing collegiate athletes = WHY ARE YOU HERE. $600k for what? = Embarrassment on and off the field = Embarrassment to the University?

My 16 yr old son who plays HS football in Ohio even found an article to text to me about this. 

Its embarrassing. 

[GP1]

4 hours ago, a-zip said:

 

Horrible football made up of dummies

What if they aren't dummies at all? What if they simply don't care because if they start to flunk out they can just go to another school?

Edited 7 hours ago by GP1

[a-zip]

48 minutes ago, GP1 said:

What if they aren't dummies at all? What if they simply don't care because if they start to flunk out they can just go to another school?

That makes you a dummy in my book

[WeRise225]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

What if they aren't dummies at all? What if they simply don't care because if they start to flunk out they can just go to another school?

I've seen them and lived with them in the same dorm in the past. They arent the brightest. 

[Head coach Huell Jackson]

[kreed5120]

2 hours ago, a-zip said:

That makes you a dummy in my book

Exactly, odds are 84 out of the 85 guys on scholarship will go pro in something other than football. This isn't like basketball where there are dozens of overseas leagues they can professionally play in.

[clarkwgriswold]

Bowden had a great resume.

Arth had a decent resume.

Moorhead had a great resume.

 

Yet, we're still here.  At some point you have to wonder if the problem isn't the guys UA is hiring.

Edited 56 minutes ago by clarkwgriswold

[GP1]

18 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

Exactly, odds are 84 out of the 85 guys on scholarship will go pro in something other than football. This isn't like basketball where there are dozens of overseas leagues they can professionally play in.

In the NIL era, many have already gone pro. 

[kreed5120]

5 minutes ago, GP1 said:

In the NIL era, many have already gone pro. 

 

How much money do you honestly think they're making on Akron's roster? Do you think it's enough for them to live off of for the next 40, 50, 60+ years?

 

Odds are if they aren't disciplined to attend class, they're also not disciplined enough to save for retirement. They will be working 9-5 jobs like the rest of us.

[GP1]

17 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

How much money do you honestly think they're making on Akron's roster? Do you think it's enough for them to live off of for the next 40, 50, 60+ years?

 

Odds are if they aren't disciplined to attend class, they're also not disciplined enough to save for retirement. They will be working 9-5 jobs like the rest of us.

They are getting paid to play. That makes them professionals. 

[AkronAlumnus]

2 hours ago, Head coach Huell Jackson said:

 

LOVE this 🤣

[kreed5120]

15 minutes ago, GP1 said:

They are getting paid to play. That makes them professionals. 

 

My original comment, the one you responded to, clearly stated that they will end up going pro in something other than football. If after their college eligibility dries up and they need to find a new profession, what I said would still be factually accurate. The only way it wouldn't be is if they're able to make enough from football to retire.

 

You can claim that they're professionals now, but they will still need to become professional in something else long-term. The two aren't mutually exclusive.