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If the talent is not there it doesn't matter who the coach is. If the players are getting paid to go to other colleges why would they come to akron? bring in your young coach full of pee and vinegar maybe the best mind in coaching if he cannot bring in the talent it isn't going to matter at all. as soon as the last game ended last year, instead of celebrating the players were immediately talking about how it was time to get paid and they were gone. that's the mentality of the college athletes with NIL now. There is no loyalty to the university it's show me the money. Jomoe doesn't need the money, why stay if he didn't care? Especially since the majority of the posts in here say he can go elsewhere? Maybe what he complains about aren't excuses it's him trying to point out what needs to change so they program can recruit the better talent and convince it to stay so they can build a program.

Akron needs a HC that needs Akron as much as we need them. A D1 gig that will serve as a stepping stone something bigger. Someone young, hungry, willing to truly accept what the situation is and work tirelessly to somehow overcome it. Joe Moorhead isn't that. He knows if/when this doesn't work out, he'll have a soft landing with a coordinator gig. That isn't to say he isn't and hasn't worked hard, I'm sure he has. But he's just not what Akron needs at this point in time IMO.

The issue with JoeMo goes beyond the X's and O's. He's a poor leader of men, doesn't adapt, and seemingly has zero issue using excuses as a crutch. NIL won't help with the intangibles he lacks as a head coach. @catdaddyp has broken down the talent on this roster that JoeMo consistently underachieves with. We need a coach to say to Hell with the BS, we're going to win some damn football games. Someone has to possess this type of attitude that's required to hold those above him and around him accountable, and turn around this program. That's an absurd statement. The University of Akron is a public higher education institution that literally does nothing but spend others' money, and they do it poorly. I was merely pointing out the importance of a donor stepping up and funding the termination of JoeMo so the program can move forward, just like we've seen at a number of other schools. It would be awesome if the football program could find their Bud Wentz, someone who is so passionate about the Zips that he does whatever it takes and is creative in boosting the football program.

Great crowd. Respectful fans. Those around me were very complimentary of Ashton Kamdem and rightfully so. First time our 2025 Zips have trailed. Very impressed by how they handled the adversity on the road with a large opposing crowd, a missed call which could have resulted in a leading goal, and being down a goal. Didn’t stop playing to score and didn’t give up another goal! Lots to build upon. Proud of this team and happy to have been there. GO ZIPS!!!

Fair enough. I just think that if a potential hiring program looked at the game film and saw some of the play calling and lack of fundamentals and discipline they be a little apprehensive.

Bingo. It's pretty well known around college football that Akron is pretty close to impossible to win at.

I really don’t think so, I’m sure he would get a power five OC job easily. Despite what we think, he is still very well respected as a good offensive mind. Akron’s budget (or lack thereof), lack of any NIL money, and overall lack of hope actually works in his favor because all coaches know how hard it is to win here. They know he’s in a hopeless situation so his value isn’t diminished.

It probably hurts it some. Like I'm not sure if OSU, Texas, LSU, etc OC vacancy opened up that he would be in the running. At the same time I'm sure he could land an OC position at a Purdue, Minnesota, Boston College, etc. He's been in the business for a long time so he has connections.

Schools like this have much more in their calculations. Akron just has money. Either they can afford to fire Joe, or not.

Meaning what? How will failing at the Graveyard of Coaches hurt his career or money making potential? Keep in mind Arth is the passing coordinator for an NFL team.

I'm thinking old Joe's value in the college football universe has taken a nosedive after leading one of the most inept programs in the nation.

Not trying to stir the pot at all, but why would anyone think that getting rid of joe is going to solve anything? the players that can are going to go where they can get money. until akron starts having money to pay the players akron will be a stepping stone. kids will come here because "it's D1" and they will hope to get film to bounce as soon as they can. example marcus moore left being a starter to get "paid" and is fourth string at purdue- hasn't played a snap. over half of Akrons team wasn't even on the roster last year. i don't agree with some player decisions that are playing and getting an absurd amount of playing time, there is only one starter from last on offense 2 if u count polk... an entirely new defensive line except bruno who stands out because nobody is doing anything. he is barely average to D1 ends. there are only 99 d ends in ALL of D1 who are ranked LOWER than Durham, yet he has more snaps than anyone on defense. it is a very tough position for any coach

The Big 10 pays out something like $63 million per school each year. That's before even selling a single game ticket or anything else. You can afford a buy out when you're rolling into that kind of money. If Akron's athletic department was generating that kind of money this wouldn't even be a discussion. We'd also be attracting a better pool of candidates.

UCLA and Virginia Tech decided today keeping their failed head coaches was more costly than getting rid of them. So I guess it's doable even when UCLA's stadium was 80% empty. Wild.

Speaking of Gaucho Dan, UC-Santa Barbara are playing #10 Marshall in Huntington right now I believe. Update: It's 1-0 Herd in the 25th mi ute.

Agreed. There is too much in it for him to resign.

Well I hope so. But I think the Zips are going to have to fire him. The new AD has his opportunity to prove he's serious about improving the program.

If Joe leaves, he'll be on staff somewhere as a coordinator or assistant making as much as he does at Akron.

4-6 D3 schools don't pay that much for coordinators, and what he's doing with this offense isn't going to get him interest from anything better than that

This is the day every coach firing fan lives for.

Against UAB the Special Teams did not show up and the defense showed up for only one half. That's disturbing, but I see three incidents in the game that are more troubling. First, with the Zips driving at the three and the two minute timeout coming up the offense is clearly waiting for the timeout to plot their next plays. Yet at 2:02 the center snaps the ball. Finley was surprised and barely covered the snap. A probable touchdown was lost. A field goal resulted. The lost points were the difference in the final score. Who was in control? Who was communicating?Who was listening? Second, Durham took the bait when a UAB O-lineman pulled him down after the whistle. Durham responded with a forearm shivers to the UAB player's chin. Right in front of a ref. We were hit with a personal foul and the drive, that may have been stopped, was renewed. On the sideline after the play Joe high-fived Durham, put his arm around him and joked. Where was the accountability? Finally, after a failed second half drive Joe tried to talk with a frustrated Finley. Joe walked after Finley talking while Finley walked away, never turning to his head coach. It took an assistant coach to turn Finley around to face Joe. An argument followed. Where is the respect for the head guy? Do these guys even believe in Joe? Joe may be an offensive genius, but there is not much evidence he is a capable head coach.

Said it before say it again. The problems with this program go beyond 1 coach or a few players. This is and has been an organizational problem for literally decades. And now with the changes in DI college football, programs like Akron etc. are just going to fall further behind. Agree with kreed can't put lipstick on a pig. A shame. A winnable game.

I think Joe walks away on his own after the season. He’s failed and he’s frustrated. He has no money to recruit, smallest budget in D1, no training table, etc etc. He can go somewhere else and make the same money, or more, as an OC. He resigns soon after the last game.

I agree that Joemo is a cancer and needed canned yesterday (said so since 2023) but I also understand the financial predicament... I still think we have to find a way to cut ties and not spend $$ doing it. Maybe have a 3L comb over the contact or something, idk. He needs to go though and I'm glad that's now obvious

You spend others money so easily.