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One way or the other, the axe of reality is going to fall on most of the G5. The money just isn't there, and even some of the rich programs are sacrificing the Olympic sports to prop up football, which, let's be honest, even at Toledo few really care about it. Front-loading entire athletic departments toward football and basketball while cutting other sports is eventually going to invoke some interpretation of Title IX or spur the advent of new legislation to protect scholarships and opportunities for students who actually go to classes, pass classes, and graduate instead of smoking dope in the elevators of the Exchange Street Residence Hall (Sorry to vent but I had enough of that when I was moving my kid into his dorm room). At this point, as a loyal UA alumnus, I just don't give a damn about football anymore if it's going to be a money-draining, losing embarrassment. Joe must go.

That makes you a dummy in my book

I remember when I was at UA, the football players always had a sense of entitlement and arrogance. The ones I had class with never showed up and when they did it was a joke. Crazy part is I was there during the Ianello years and the team was a complete joke, while the soccer team was competing for National Championships. Yet none of them acted that way. Probably doesn't help that Akron has to scrape the bottom of the barrel for guys who can't crack it at P5 schools. Naturally this leads to academic and behavioral issues. This culture has existed well before Moorhead and will exist afterwards. I'd like to think this is the kick in the butt this program needs. But honestly it feels like the beginning of the end.

Came here to say this. That's what makes this so g_d d_mn embarrassing. I guess no other school has done this poorly on APR since Idaho in 2014? (and miss me with arguments amounting to, "Everyone cheats but us"). And in spite of this, we're also among the worst teams ON the field too, post-Bowden! This all points to not just badness, but downright incompetence. We can only hope Nemer, Goodrich and any other relevant newbloods are competent. What a fun thing to root for. Just be competent. Yay. And despite all this, I do too. Even if we get some serious miracle workers in place, it'll still take a long time. In the meantime, my goals as a fan for this season and the ones in the foreseeable future are "don't be in the conversation for worst team in the MAC" and "Don't be so bad academically that were banned from post-season." Again, yay.

Its bad enough we are currently in a dynasty of losing but if you also can't produce a roster of APR passing collegiate athletes = WHY ARE YOU HERE. $600k for what? = Embarrassment on and off the field = Embarrassment to the University? My 16 yr old son who plays HS football in Ohio even found an article to text to me about this. Its embarrassing.

Probably because they know this APR ban won’t stick. As soon as a school takes NCAA to court over it, APR will go away. It should have been eliminated already.

Without having a chance at a post season, we might have to resort to recruiting in the Butchelite again.

Better get some adults in the building. If you actually did the opposite of what UA leaders have done over the past decades, we’d be alright. But now we have Declining enrollment Increasing debt Empty stadiums Horrible football made up of dummies Total embarrassment. We’re going to do this clip at the Info this season. What’s your name

With all the recent conversation about Akron football APR scores it makes me feel even more grateful to have Groce running a basketball program that we can be proud of. On numerous post game interviews over the years I've heard him talk about players getting their degrees and praise individuals success in the classroom. He's the embodiment of what a college coach should be. He could be looking to cut corners and bring in unruly characters in hopes of adding an extra win or two, but he's not. He genuinely seems to care about his players and their long-term futures.

Likely most.

Very young, very sheltered spoiled adults who have had smoke blown up their asses since they played pee-wee football.

Many don't. Life is full of choices. They are adults.

My original comment, the one you responded to, clearly stated that they will end up going pro in something other than football. If after their college eligibility dries up and they need to find a new profession, what I said would still be factually accurate. The only way it wouldn't be is if they're able to make enough from football to retire. You can claim that they're professionals now, but they will still need to become professional in something else long-term. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

Bowden had a great resume. Arth had a decent resume. Moorhead had a great resume. Yet, we're still here. At some point you have to wonder if the problem isn't the guys UA is hiring.

I've seen them and lived with them in the same dorm in the past. They arent the brightest.

Nothing changes unless people voice their concerns directly to the people in charge, including Nemer and the BOT.

We offered Syracuse RB Juwaun Price. I’m guessing one of our current RBs has left the team in some capacity.

In the NIL era, a winning team is all I care about. If there is embarrassment , it's the decades long failure on the field. I think anyone who feels bad about this story is internalizing it. Very few people give a crap about this nonsense. I don't feel one bit bad about this story. In fact, I think academic standards in minor league professional sports are stupid. The players aren't here to go to school. They are here to participate in football games and make some money so ESPN has weeknight programming in the late fall. The classroom stuff should be optional. Within ten years, high level college football will be teams that are merely sponsored by universities. They could use names like, The Buckeyes brought to you by The Ohio State University. If you don't think it's going this way, you are fooling yourself.

Beto with the 96’ minute game winner in the US Open Cup against NYCFC. Go Zips!

I'm sure there will be a long line of quality candidates if and when the job becomes available given the program's recent success and the past and coming cuts. Oh well, at least Joe pays his bills and doesn't use his school credit card for Chuck E Cheese visits.

what's his GPA?

We can criticize the APR system all we want, but every other school is under the same system.

Nope. Also prohibited from playing in the MAC title game. This is on Joe. This program has exhibited little/no discipline concerning player behavior (and, apparently, academic performance) since day one of his tenure. When your backup QB (Undercuffler) gets a 15-yard penalty from the sideline for launching F-bombs at the officials (clearly heard on the TV broadcast, BTW) and your coach does nothing about it, you've become a renegade program. When your players come out of the locker room at an away game with middle fingers flying at the opposing fans (Peden Stadium in 2024) and no one is sat down, it's time to question whether you're doing things the right way. This program is an embarrassment to the university.

The hits just keep on coming and coming! The program looks bad. Joe looks bad. The NCAA looks bad and like clowns. But most of all the university, that has excellent students pursuing excellent degree programs, looks bad. Despite all this I believe building a quality, winning football program is achievable. I'm tired of feeling bad every time football is mentioned. I'm hoping Nemer and Goodrich are the people we need. The right people can do amazing things.

Try again.