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Reddit thoughts on the Arth rumors: https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/a36jwn/sources_former_john_carroll_football_head_coach/

https://soundcloud.com/igimeportsadio/akron-zips-football-head-coaching-search-12618

Can you share the link to the UTC message board? Arth doesn't appear to be a slam dunk on paper, and I would like a better understanding of the drop off (if there is an explanation). In my reading, it may be in part due to him not having his JCU OC, which he just got back. Arth was on the verge of making JCU a Mount Union level program, and nobody has had an issue with the thought of Kehres. He's been a QB in the NFL. He's shown to be able to recruit, at least at the FCS level. There can be a learning curve moving up. Arth at the least has shown improvement. I haven't seen any slam dunk on paper. The board's favorite (I suspect because he played and was successful here) isn't that great either. No prior HC experience and the offense regressed under him, and that offense doesn't appear on paper to be a fun one to watch. I'm willing to listen, research, and give anyone a chance as long as they have some qualifications, because we aren't going to get some surefire guy like OSU. I hope the rest of the board and fan base is willing to do the same.

Come on Cap'n...whats that got to do with LW?

That author isn't very good at directions.

Bro, nobody was really discussing anyone 20 hours ago.

Have you seen his record at JCU?

i don't think he is suggesting adding additional scholarships.

Mississippi State's offense (who returned a ton of talent from last season) looks like this for 2018: 70th in the nation for total offense, 175 yds passing/game, 226 rushing yards/game, 29.1ppg. The QB rushed for 1,000 yards, leading RB rushed for 700 yards, leading WR had 385 yards. 2017 (prior to Moorhead/Getsy): 43rd in total offense, 167 passing/game , 252 rush/game, 32ppg.

Anyone else dropping the $6 to watch the game tonight? I'm undecided. Interesting fact - IPFW actually lost to probably the only other team with a Kangaroo mascot in their last game on December 1st (UMKC). Here's to hoping we can make it two in a row,

I guess I should have clarified better. Before him, the previous coach won at least 9 games in their last 2 seasons, where Arth won 3 games and then 6 games. Going from 3 to 6 is obviously a good sign, but I wonder where there was such a drop off in his first year taking over. Many members of the board will like this - when first hired at UT-C, he had only 2 months to put together a recruiting class. It ended up being one of the top in the FCS and the highest rated in the Southern conference.

Thanks for sharing, Zach. I've been jonesing for some news. I just realized I've met Tom Arth at a Pro Football HOF event that was actually honoring Brad Dickerson, CFO of Under Armour at the time (and UA business school grad). Arth also played for legendary Coach Kyle at St. Ignatius. Obviously winning the OAC at JCU over Mount Union is a great accomplishment. I don't know enough about UT-Chatanooga, but looking at records, there has been a noticeable drop off in his two seasons there.

In my very casual following of the Chargers, I thought Jatavis' play dropped off some after his nice rookie year. Glad to see that it looks like he is finally getting back to form. Get that second contract Hitman!

I like the new 4 game red-shirt rule. I think it will lead to more parity. Look at Kelly Bryant at Clemson who was strung along for part of the season until he told the freshman QB would be the full time starter going forward. Bryant used it to his advantage and red-shirted because he didn't play in more than 4 games and will now get a chance to make Arkansas better next year.

I would bet they do. The problem is these kids have been on a pedestal all of their life and believe they can all be the star at these big time universities and make millions in the nfl as a result. Of course reality is that isn't the case, but why wouldn't they believe it?

Not that I'm in favor of Polian based on the very limited knowledge I have of him, but using that as a disqualifer is pretty lazy.

I do too Keyon. I do too. Hopefully any new coach can see his value, if given a chance to show it.

Lance Leipold at Buffalo is doing alright I reckon.

Cleveland's population peaked at 915k in 1950. The population loss isn't anything new and has slowed down dramatically after the recession. The region is still the 16th largest in the country...people might be leaving the city but there are plenty who are staying in the region. The regional population is only about 30% off of its historical peak in 1970. Regardless of the numbers, none of this new and suddenly making NE Ohio football talent irrelevant.

Bro...NE Ohio schools just won 5 out of the 7 state championships and were at least represented in all of them by one team except for lowly D7. Ohio is still a top 5 state for talent and I don't think there is any question that the majority of the talent is right here in NE Ohio.

Zipsoutsider is on here actively suggesting that players transfer away from our program. Outsider indeed.

100% shady.

Oh I don't know, maybe because he would be multiplying his salary and advancing his career. Pretty crazy thought, I know.

when would have been the appropriate time to fire him?

2 weeks seems a little long to me considering how fast a lot of these other jobs are being filled. Then again, the d3 championship is 12/14.