Zips Win! Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 20 hours ago, GoZips86 said: https://www.wkyc.com/article/sports/college-football/akron-football-head-coach-3-candidates/95-182ba167-50df-4a32-8215-a416fcac1ab6 Charlie Frye would be cool for Zips fans if he had a more substantial resume to fit the job. Maybe, but expect a staff full of former players-Hixon, Blackburn, etc...Getsy would be a better fit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Zips Win! said: Maybe, but expect a staff full of former players-Hixon, Blackburn, etc...Getsy would be a better fit! Please provide the details on how you came to this completely illogical conclusion. I would love to change my perception based on details and facts. I am looking forward to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 Whatever happens, it's now the Pres. Gary Miller show since he hand-picked Guthrie. Personally, I believe the HC search committee consists primarily of Dr. Miller. He's been able to navigate the U. through the Covid budget crisis & downsizing so I am hopeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd&twenty Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 There are a few similarities to Akron in this story. We now have to be the worst job in college football. But, I think this story shows what some posters talk about being able to win at Akron. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32542085/dave-clawson-created-college-football-version-moneyball-wake-forest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said: Whatever happens, it's now the Pres. Gary Miller show since he hand-picked Guthrie. Personally, I believe the HC search committee consists primarily of Dr. Miller. He's been able to navigate the U. through the Covid budget crisis & downsizing so I am hopeful. good observation. it's known that the search committee last time had people on it with ZERO football knowledge. They hired an image. Their fantasy successful coach. The dream became a nightmare fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 Getsy vs. Frye is certainly an interesting thing to look at, whether either of them gets the job or not. I would absolutely love it and I think it would be very exciting even for fringe Zip fans that left with Bobby 1-and-11o. As far as resumes go, it's got to be Getsy hands down. He's currently the position coach of arguably a top 5 quarterback of all time, and he's been with that organization for 7 total seasons. He's been in both the college game and the pros for plenty of time. He was on Fleck's staff at WMU for a year and former Zip OC Joe Moorhead's staff at Mississippi State for a year. I would feel very good about that hire, as he's an extremely well-connected guy who has a lot of his career ahead of him still. Williams completely botched the interview last time around, and Getsy resented him for it and said he would never interview with Larry again. Hopefully he doesn't feel that way toward Akron. Charlie is by far more of the Akron guy, and I think he would be more likely to show interest. He's the best QB to ever play here and he won quite a bit. He seems to still have some good relationships with people at Akron, and he's been back to campus at least a couple of times since leaving. Frye-Day in 2015 was pretty cool. He would pour his heart and soul into this job, and Akron fans would be energized. As far as his coaching abilities, I have a lot more doubts. He's probably well-connected enough to put together a decent staff, and he's done pretty well as an OC in the MAC before he left for the Dolphins. I heard recently that he's their playcaller, which is interesting. Is Tua good? Who knows, there's no o-line down there to get a good read. Sounds like Akron, ha! While I don't really have any idea what direction Guthrie & Co. will go, these are two that I think would be pretty cool. With that said, I'd be fairly surprised if either ended up getting the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, LoyalZIP said: Williams completely botched the interview last time around, and Getsy resented him for it and said he would never interview with Larry again. Hopefully he doesn't feel that way toward Akron. That's juicy. Was this common knowledge? How did Williams botch the interview so badly? 32 minutes ago, LoyalZIP said: Charlie is by far more of the Akron guy, and I think he would be more likely to show interest. He's the best QB to ever play here and he won quite a bit. He seems to still have some good relationships with people at Akron, and he's been back to campus at least a couple of times since leaving. During Bowden's last year, or year-before-last, I don't remember, I remember hearing both Frye and Chase Blackburn were close to the program and volunteering some time, but then the next thing I knew Frye was down in Ashland w/ Lee Owens & Chase was nowhere to be found, so Idk if Bowden ran them off, or what. Anyway, Frye and Blackburn (as DC) could possibly be a package deal. And yes, this was a while ago and my memory is fuzzy so I'm almost entirely pulling this out of my Edited November 5, 2021 by Blue & Gold 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 39 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: That's juicy. Was this common knowledge? How did Williams botch the interview so badly? I guess it was never really public. A colleague of mine had worked with Getsy at a previous stop and was texting him throughout. Just said it was a very odd interview that felt like a waste of time. I read in an article yesterday that Getsy was in the final 3. That is not true. It's interesting, Williams wanted nothing more in his entire career than to hire a head football coach as a ND guy who played for the Browns. It's shocking that it went as poorly as it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zips Win! said: Maybe, but expect a staff full of former players-Hixon, Blackburn, etc...Getsy would be a better fit! Why shouldn't we consider Blackburn for head coach? LBs aren't looked at like this, but he was a better college football player than both Charlie and Luke. Throw in Hixson while you are at it. He also had a good NFL career and is currently the special teams coordinator for the Panthers. Food for thought. Edited November 5, 2021 by GP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 Getsy - HC Charlie - OC Blackburn - DC Hixon - WR, passing game coordinator Dwight Smith - DBs Andrew Alleman - OL Shawn Lemon - DL Brandon Payne - RB's Bubba Arslanian - LB coach/player 😂 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Blue & Gold said: Getsy - HC Charlie - OC Blackburn - DC Hixon - WR, passing game coordinator Dwight Smith - DBs Andrew Alleman - OL Shawn Lemon - DL Brandon Payne - RB's Bubba Arslanian - LB coach/player 😂 You need to work in Jason Taylor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Roo Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 Based on recent head coaching performances and in the spirit of all long-suffering Zips football fans --- (engage cynical attitude now) How about a cardboard cut out of Nick Saban? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips86 Posted November 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, K-Roo said: Based on recent head coaching performances and in the spirit of all long-suffering Zips football fans --- (engage cynical attitude now) How about a cardboard cut out of Nick Saban? No need because according to sources, Akron is the only job Nick Saban said he would leave Alabama for.... Okay, um...actually, I'll take the cardboard cutout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 Here's the type of resume I like in a head coach, in order: College player High school offensive coordinator Small college position coach FBS graduate assistant Position coach FCS school Position coach FBS non P5 school Offensive coordinator FBS non P5 school OC P5 school MAC head coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 6 hours ago, NWAkron said: good observation. it's known that the search committee last time had people on it with ZERO football knowledge. They hired an image. Their fantasy successful coach. The dream became a nightmare fast. Williams played in the NFL?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 5, 2021 Report Share Posted November 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, LZIp said: Williams played in the NFL?? Yes, for 5 years as an offensive lineman with the Browns, Saints and Patriots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, LZIp said: Williams played in the NFL?? yes. but the committee "had" other people on it with ZERO football background. Need grammarly. Edited November 6, 2021 by NWAkron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, clarkwgriswold said: Here's the type of resume I like in a head coach, in order: College player High school offensive coordinator Small college position coach FBS graduate assistant Position coach FCS school Position coach FBS non P5 school Offensive coordinator FBS non P5 school OC P5 school MAC head coach That's a pretty small pond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 14 minutes ago, GP1 said: That's a pretty small pond. Not that small. Our biggest rival fished that exact resume out of the pond. I don't need that exact background but it is illustrative of what they should be looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 Luke Getsy was such a big deal, we had Mike Tirico, Kirk Herbstreit, and Erin Andrews on the call for our lone MAC Title. His resume... Charlie Frye's resume doesn't include a MAC Title, but it does include... ... and... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 18 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Luke Getsy was such a big deal, we had Mike Tirico, Kirk Herbstreit, and Erin Andrews on the call for our lone MAC Title. His resume... Charlie Frye's resume doesn't include a MAC Title, but it does include... ... and... I recently discovered that video of the title game and re watched it for the first time since I was there, man that was cool! I I didn’t know there was a Marshall video, so I will have to do the same for that. Thanks! Go Zips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 It would be hard, not impossible, to get and NFL coach. In addition to the earnings potential, NFL guys love not having to recruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoyalZIP Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, GP1 said: It would be hard, not impossible, to get and NFL coach. In addition to the earnings potential, NFL guys love not having to recruit. Very well said. They can just be “football guys” which is why many don’t leave once they get there. I have no idea the likelihood of either former QB coming here, and I don’t really see it happening, but I think they’d be home run hires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 I've brought up Hunter and Alford as guys who would be a good fit along with Blackburn and Rodriguez. I have not read every post so please forgive me if I'm wrong, but why isn't anyone even considering the possibility of the benefits of a black head coach? Who has Vince Kehres ever recruited that set the world on fire? The recruiting at Mt. Union had to be pretty easy. The guy at Hoban would quickly become a worse version of Arth. It's fun to speculate as fans, but the ultimate decision is an extremely important one. Missing on a hire is extremely expensive in any organization. Akron doesn't need to play lip service to diversity in interviewing by throwing in a couple of token interviews. They need to put action to words and give strong consideration and take the candidates seriously. In the NFL the Steelers did this and have their third in a row Hall of Fame coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy-claws Posted November 6, 2021 Report Share Posted November 6, 2021 GP1, you treaded where I wanted to go, but was afraid to be accused of, well, you know... i believe the next HC will be a minority, but not because he is a minority, but it will be an added feature, if you will. I thing AD Charles and CFO Marcus will pursue this avenue, as there are no minorities (other than women) at the helm of any of the Zips 14 or 15 programs. I don’t believe it will be a priority, but I think it will be a “tie-breaker” if you will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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