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57 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

 

Do I understand this correclty that the Pac-12 (six members) will still be a Power Conference in the future?  That seems unfair to a few of the Group of 5 conferences that are, honestly, as good or better than those six programs collectively.

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3 minutes ago, UA1996MAENG said:

Do I understand this correclty that the Pac-12 (six members) will still be a Power Conference in the future?  That seems unfair to a few of the Group of 5 conferences that are, honestly, as good or better than those six programs collectively.

I agree, shouldn't be considered a power conference with the addition of those teams. Not much better than the Mountain West as it currently stands, if at all. Haven't done any reading on this, but my guess is $$ is main motivation for the move with the hope of being considered a power conference again.

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8 minutes ago, UA1996MAENG said:

Do I understand this correclty that the Pac-12 (six members) will still be a Power Conference in the future?  That seems unfair to a few of the Group of 5 conferences that are, honestly, as good or better than those six programs collectively.

They still have to get to 8 by 2026 to be considered a Power conference. 2026 is when their probationary period ends. Even though they aren’t much better (or better at all) than some of the G5 conferences, they will be given an auto-bid to the playoffs.

 

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2 minutes ago, LZIp said:

I agree, shouldn't be considered a power conference with the addition of those teams. Not much better than the Mountain West as it currently stands, if at all. Haven't done any reading on this, but my guess is $$ is main motivation for the move with the hope of being considered a power conference again.

Exactly.  I had thought eventually that all of the MW and P-2 (OSU/WSU) would merge and rebrand as the Mountain-Pacific Conference or under some such name.  Now half of the MW is cast off and will have to join some other G5 conference, which will surley increase the travel/accomdations costs for programs that are already losing money.  

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2 minutes ago, UA1996MAENG said:

Exactly.  I had thought eventually that all of the MW and P-2 (OSU/WSU) would merge and rebrand as the Mountain-Pacific Conference or under some such name.  Now half of the MW is cast off and will have to join some other G5 conference, which will surley increase the travel/accomdations costs for programs that are already losing money.  

And the great divide between the “have” and “have nots” continues to grow at the FBS level….

 

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1 minute ago, UA1996MAENG said:

Exactly.  I had thought eventually that all of the MW and P-2 (OSU/WSU) would merge and rebrand as the Mountain-Pacific Conference or under some such name.  Now half of the MW is cast off and will have to join some other G5 conference, which will surley increase the travel/accomdations costs for programs that are already losing money.  

Im thinking you might see the likes of NDSU and SDSU make the jump up to FBS,  and maybe a couple CUSA teams that dont make any sense like NMSU join to fill it out.

 

 

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1 minute ago, LZIp said:

Im thinking you might see the likes of NDSU and SDSU make the jump up to FBS,  and maybe a couple CUSA teams that dont make any sense like NMSU join to fill it out.

 

 

You’re probably right. I’m guessing as all the realignment is fleshed out, we eventually see the G5 conferences become more centralized like they used to be. 

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3 hours ago, UA1996MAENG said:

Do I understand this correclty that the Pac-12 (six members) will still be a Power Conference in the future?  That seems unfair to a few of the Group of 5 conferences that are, honestly, as good or better than those six programs collectively.

 

My understanding is it will not be a 'power' conference but rather a G6.

 

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1 hour ago, ZippyRulz said:

 

My understanding is it will not be a 'power' conference but rather a G6.

 

They have until 2026 to meet all the guidelines to become a Power conference again. I’m not sure what all those are except a minimum of 8 teams.

 

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From ESPN.com:

 

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- In what is believed to be the first arrangement of its kind, Tennessee fans for all sports will be charged a 10% "talent fee" on tickets to help pay athletes as part of the new revenue-sharing plan set to begin in 2025.

 

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/41302985/tennessee-ups-season-ticket-prices-10-help-pay-athletes

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When will it end? Everything just gets slimier, greedier and more money-driven. Just when you think the party has reached an all time low, someone excavates a new basement. It's like a really aggressive cancer...

 

Would Clarke pay the extra $6 talent fee for his Zips GA basketball season ticket?

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44 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

When will it end? Everything just gets slimier, greedier and more money-driven. Just when you think the party has reached an all time low, someone excavates a new basement. It's like a really aggressive cancer...

 

Would Clarke pay the extra $6 talent fee for his Zips GA basketball season ticket?

 

Does it come with parking?  LOL.

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15 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

When will it end?

When TV networks no longer run college athletics. Then a commissioner for college football representing the P5 schools. Then collective bargaining agreement between the players and universities which is what the Supreme Court said in their ruling when they declared restrictions on plays earning money was unconstitutional. It will probably be 3-5 more years before this is accomplished. It really isn't hard, but athletic directors are getting dumber by the day so it will take some time.

 

I have nieces in their 30s who grew up with Taylor Swift and are huge fans. Their fandom made me realize something about myself and my enjoyment of college football. I neither like nor dislike Swift, but I'm not her target audience either so that probably drives my indifference. I'm starting to feel the same way about college football. I'm becoming very indifferent to the product. It's hard to watch. Because analytics is destroying the enjoyment of sports for everyone but degenerate gamblers, everyone does the same thing and it has become boring. The games last over 3.5 hours. At noon on Saturday, the following networks have non streaming games: ABC, CBS, ESPN, ESPNU, ESPN2, Fox, Fox Sports, CBS Sports, BTN, SEC, ACC. That's 10 games....try to find two worth watching. It's a tough task. It's mostly garbage. 

 

Speaking of garbage, how about the ESPN and Fox Sports Saturday morning pregame yell and mug shows? They used to be great, now I find them unwatchable. Kirk Herbstreit is really good, but I don't need to hear his voice for seven hours on Saturdays between the yell and mug show and his game broadcast. I don't need to watch grown men over the age of 40 talking over each other and shoving each other in the arm. They increasing behave like morons. However, this is what college football has become. Maybe it's why fans want. 

 

Maybe people like me and you and a lot of people on this board are looking at it all the wrong way. Maybe sports are like music. I like a lot of different types of music, but not all. There are some types of music I used to like and now don't. Maybe I'm not the target audience for college football anymore as it appears that audience is now drunks and degenerate gamblers. Maybe there is a massive audience for crappy football and grown men yelling at and mugging each other on pregame shows and I'm not part of the target audience. I've accepted this is probably the case and am spending less time watching college football and engaging in other activities to enjoy myself. There are a ton of things to do in this world. 

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College football I've been turned off watching for years because it's boring. I often get asked to meet up with friends to watch OSU at a restaurant or a friends house. Looking at OSU's schedule last year, I see they played only 3 games that were decided by 10 points or less. 7 were decided by 20+ points. That's just not entertaining to watch. Particularly in the 4th quarter when the game is out of balance.

 

The only redeeming quality is that with so many games being on TV all at once, odds are one will be watchable. 

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2 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

You know a really cool side benefit to the advent of NIL? - We'll never have to worry about the cost of adding names to our Wall of Fame. From here-on-out, any decent player will bolt the Zips in a heartbeat for some P5 cash. 

 

The days of watching a Dwight Smith, Jason Taylor, Charlie Frye etc. for more than a year or two are officially over. Yippee.

 

Next up - Based upon the success of the 2-minute time out, I foresee instituting the "6-minute breather"...a 5 minute "catch your breath" break at the 6:00 point of each quarter. We'll be able to listen to 15 consecutive, "Akron Bearings" and "Electrifying your Future" commercials, 4 times per game. Double Yippee. 

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7 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

 

 

Next up - Based upon the success of the 2-minute time out, I foresee instituting the "6-minute breather"...a 5 minute "catch your breath" break at each at the 6:00 point of each quarter. We'll be able to listen to 15 consecutive, "Akron Bearings" and "Electrifying your Future" commercials, 4 times per game. Double Yippee. 

At least you'll have time to place some bets on Draft Kings. 

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9 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

College football I've been turned off watching for years because it's boring. I often get asked to meet up with friends to watch OSU at a restaurant or a friends house. Looking at OSU's schedule last year, I see they played only 3 games that were decided by 10 points or less. 7 were decided by 20+ points. That's just not entertaining to watch. Particularly in the 4th quarter when the game is out of balance.

 

The only redeeming quality is that with so many games being on TV all at once, odds are one will be watchable. 

Agree totally.  For the top of the football world, teams play in maybe 1-2 games that are compelling. OSU this year?  Maybe 1 in the regular season.  I've tuned out of P5 football almost 100%.

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29 minutes ago, UA1996MAENG said:

For the top of the football world, teams play in maybe 1-2 games that are compelling.

You aren't the target audience. You don't strike me as a degenerate gambler. Degenerate gamblers don't care if the games are competitive. They only care if one team or the other covers whatever bet they made.

 

College football is not in ascension. It is in decline. They want to play a money game?  Ok, there is an organization out there playing the money game much better.  It's called the NFL and is just dying to expand and eat up every weakling around. The decline is going to become more apparent in the coming years. A sign will be when the NFL senses weakness and begins to air games on Saturdays and Fridays all year. This will push college football to the secondary networks like BTN and the NFL will draw more eyes to it's product. College football won't stand a chance against the NFL. 

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