MangoZip Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 Is this true?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 What's the difference between "he resigned" and "they mutually parted ways"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 Good. I had hopes for him, but the lazy decision to schedule OSU on the road after Kentucky paid us $1.0 million to get out of a game was the turning point for me. It was the least creative thing he could have done. Akron needs someone who can get money into the revenue stream some way other than whoring out the football program and make that program better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 57 minutes ago, GP1 said: Good. I had hopes for him, but the lazy decision to schedule OSU on the road after Kentucky paid us $1.0 million to get out of a game was the turning point for me. It was the least creative thing he could have done. Akron needs someone who can get money into the revenue stream some way other than whoring out the football program and make that program better. With all the problems and challenges associated with Akron athletics, this guy chose to focus on a new logo…which I contend is the least creative thing I’ve ever seen. He did it because it is on the check list of things AD’s do to fill their resume (I grew University gear revenue by 5889% with my new branding). Don’t get me started on his last basketball coaching hire at UWGB that impressed Akron enough to hire him. So glad he's gone. But not supremely confident we’ll pick a winner to succeed him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: With all the problems and challenges associated with Akron athletics, this guy chose to focus on a new logo…which I contend is the least creative thing I’ve ever seen. He did it because it is on the check list of things AD’s do to fill their resume (I grew University gear revenue by 5889% with my new branding). Don’t get me started on his last basketball coaching hire at UWGB that impressed Akron enough to hire him. So glad he's gone. But not supremely confident we’ll pick a winner to succeed him. I bought a Nike golf shirt with the new logo on it and the word AKRON under it. The shirt itself is really nice. I found it interesting that they had to tell you what the logo meant underneath of the logo itself. People are supposed to know what the logo means without being told. It never says NIKE under the swoosh. BTW, the logo was very creative......for Arby's. Edited November 9 by GP1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 I have concern a new AD would try and fire Moorhead and we’ll be starting over yet again, continuing the death spiral of suck. Just want to watch some winning Zips football in my life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 6 minutes ago, LZIp said: I have concern a new AD would try and fire Moorhead and we’ll be starting over yet again, continuing the death spiral of suck. Just want to watch some winning Zips football in my life. Joe should get one more season for financial reasons alone. Akron has a sane OOC next season with a chance to gain momentum for a good season. A new coach would be less able to exploit this opportunity and Akron would suffer. Knowing this and with my experience as a Zips fan, I predict Akron will fire Joe after this season, start the endless building process over and miss out on exploiting a favorable schedule next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoZip Posted November 9 Author Report Share Posted November 9 Confirmed on his X page. I think this will significantly increase the possibly that Joe is not the coach here next year. Either he resigns or is let go by new AD. The big problem is timing. How quickly can they hire somebody new and then the new AD and Joe need to determine if they are a good fit for each other. That all needs to happen pretty quickly based on the recruiting/transfer portal cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 28 minutes ago, LZIp said: I have concern a new AD would try and fire Moorhead and we’ll be starting over yet again, continuing the death spiral of suck. Just want to watch some winning Zips football in my life. That was my thought as well. Almost every new AD wants to make their mark on football - or whatever the major program is at the particular school. I went through all the coaching hires for G5 turnarounds from 2021, 2022, and 2023. If the new AD thinks he/she is going to come in and immediately make a splash hire, they are in for a rude awakening with the resources we have. These are (more or less) in order of coaching staff pay: Joe Moorhead - Akron Base Pay = $620k Total Asst. Pay = $920k Previous Coach = 2-10 2022 = 2-10 2023 = 2-10 Current = 2-7 Terry Bowden - Louisiana-Monroe Base Pay = $435k Total Asst. Pay = $1 mil Previous Coach = 0-10 2021 = 4-8 2022 = 4-8 2023 = 2-10 Current = Bowden was fired. Kenni Burns - Kent Base Pay = $527k Total Asst. Pay = $1.1 mil Previous Coach = 5-7 2023 = 1-11 Current = 0-9 Lance Taylor - Western Michigan Base Pay = $850k Total Asst. Pay = $1.1 mil Previous Coach = 5-7 2023 = 4-8 Current = 5-4 Jerry Kill - New Mexico State Base Pay = $550k Total Asst. Pay = $1.45 mil Previous Coach = 2-10 2022 = 7-6 2023 = 10-5 Current = Kill stepped down. Mike MacIntyre - FIU Base Pay = $750k Total Asst. Pay = $1.6 mil Previous Coach = 1-11 2022 = 4-8 2023 = 4-8 Current = 3-6 Clay Helton - Georgia Southern Base Pay = $805k Total Asst. Pay = $1.45 mil Previous Coach = 3-9 2022 = 6-7 2023 = 6-7 Current = 6-3 Don Brown - UMASS Base Pay = $882k Total Asst. Pay = $1.35 mil Previous Coach = 1-11 2022 = 1-11 2023 = 3-9 Current = 2-7 Blake Anderson - Utah State Base Pay = $766k Total Asst. Pay = $1.6 mil Previous Coach = 1-5 2021 = 11-3 2022 = 6-7 2023 = 6-7 Current = 2-6 Kane Wommack - South Alabama Base Pay = $810k Total Asst. Pay = $1.5 mil Previous Coach = 4-7 2021 = 5-7 2022 = 10-3 2023 = 7-6 Current = Wommack is now the DC at Alabama Butch Jones - Arkansas State Base Pay = $825k Total Asst. Pay = $1.5 mil Previous Coach = 4-7 2021 = 2-10 2022 = 3-9 2023 = 6-7 Current = 5-3 Will Hall - Southern Miss Base Pay = $824k Total Asst. Pay = $1.6 mil Previous Coach = 3-7 2021 = 3-9 2022 = 7-6 2023 = 3-9 Current = 1-7 Jon Sumrall - Troy Base Pay = $825k Total Asst. Pay = $1.7 mil Previous Coach = 5-7 2022 = 12-2 2023 = 11-3 Current = Sumrall is now the HC at Tulane Sonny Cumbie - Louisiana Tech Base Pay = $1 mil Total Asst. Pay = $1.3 mil Previous Coach = 3-9 2022 = 3-9 2023 = 3-9 Current = 3-5 GJ Kinne - Texas State Base Pay = $1 mil Total Asst. Pay = $1.6 mil Previous Coach = 4-8 2023 = 8-5 Current = 4-4 Tom Herman - FAU Base Pay = $1 mil Total Asst. Pay = $1.7 mil Previous Coach = 5-7 2023 = 4-8 Current = 2-7 Biff Poggi - Charlotte Base Pay = $1 mil Total Asst. Pay = $1.7 mil Previous Coach = 3-9 2023 = 3-9 Current = 3-6 Jim Mora - UCONN Base Pay = $1.7 mil Total Asst. Pay = $1.9 mil Previous Coach = 1-11 2022 = 6-7 2023 = 3-9 Current = 6-3 Jay Norvell - Colorado State Base Pay = $1.8 mil Total Asst. Pay = $2.1 mil Previous Coach = 3-9 2022 = 3-9 2023 = 5-7 Current = 6-3 Stan Drayton - Temple Base Pay = $1.8 mil Total Asst. Pay = ? Previous Coach = 3-9 2022 = 3-9 2023 = 3-9 Current = 2-6 Brian Newberry - Navy Base Pay = $1.8 mil Total Asst. Pay = ? Previous Coach = 4-8 2023 = 5-7 Current = 6-2 Kevin Wilson - Tulsa Base Pay = $1.9 mil Total Asst. Pay = ? Previous Coach = 5-7 2023 = 4-8 Current = 3-6 Barry Odom - UNLV Base Pay = $1.75 mil Total Asst. Pay = $2.3 mil Previous Coach = 5-7 2023 = 9-5 Current = 6-2 Alex Golesh - South Florida Base Pay = $2.5 mil Total Asst. Pay = $2.4 mil Previous Coach = 1-11 2023 = 7-6 Current = 4-4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 We need another thread for this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy-claws Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 1 hour ago, LZIp said: I have concern a new AD would try and fire Moorhead and we’ll be starting over yet again, continuing the death spiral of suck. Just want to watch some winning Zips football in my life. Bu doesn't this kind of give the coaching staffs a "free pass" card for at least another season, as the new AD gets to know their strengths and weaknesses? Maybe women's soccer, volleyball, baseball coaches are breathing a sigh of relief for the foreseeable future, even Joe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam_Hilliard22 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 New AD brings back that gorgeous script Akron logo they had for like a year and I'd be happy for life 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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egregiousbob Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 Was told by another AD that he didn't like to be pressed on budget and compliance details. Guessing the department has been source of multiple unwanted financial surprises. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 3 hours ago, zippy-claws said: Bu doesn't this kind of give the coaching staffs a "free pass" card for at least another season, as the new AD gets to know their strengths and weaknesses? Maybe women's soccer, volleyball, baseball coaches are breathing a sigh of relief for the foreseeable future, even Joe? It will take a month, minimum, to hire a new AD. The season will be over by then. The new one isn't going to fire Joe on day one. The only way Joe leaves will be on his own in January after coaches turn over. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam_Hilliard22 Posted November 9 Report Share Posted November 9 4 hours ago, zippy-claws said: Bu doesn't this kind of give the coaching staffs a "free pass" card for at least another season, as the new AD gets to know their strengths and weaknesses? Maybe women's soccer, volleyball, baseball coaches are breathing a sigh of relief for the foreseeable future, even Joe? Baseball coaches aren't going anywhere even with a new AD '24 season wasn't amazing but there are some really good young players that did well this year and the coaches brought in a great transfer/freshman class with the '25 class looking great as well 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 https://www.beaconjournal.com/story/sports/college/zips/2024/11/09/akron-zips-athletic-director-charles-guthrie-part-ways-ncaa/76162234007/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 (edited) On 11/9/2024 at 11:21 AM, MDZip said: I know it's kind of a tired topic with the logo, but this one is indeed my favorite. I also liked the A-roo but it wasn't really instantly recognizable as a kangaroo. Looked a bit too much like a donkey. But the Z is so unique, there are only two colleges in the country that start with a Z and I don't think anybody would confuse us with Zane(sville) community college nor Zaytuna college. There are over 100 institutions of higher learning that begin with A, and more than a dozen Division 1 football teams. For a logo you want something that is instantly identifiable, connected and has some uniqueness to it. I thought the Z was fantastic. I hate the rationale of going back to an A to be more connected with the community. I think that was a load of crap. Long live the Z! Edited November 10 by MDZip 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 I had also come up with the motto of the University of Akron Zips - We have everything covered from A to Z. They can have that one. 😊 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoZip Posted November 10 Author Report Share Posted November 10 (edited) 6 hours ago, MDZip said: I know it's kind of a tired topic with the logo, but this one is indeed my favorite. I also liked the A-roo but it wasn't really instantly recognizable as a kangaroo. Looked a bit too much like a donkey. But the Z is so unique, there are only two colleges in the country that start with a Z and I don't think anybody would confuse us with Zane(sville) community college nor Zaytuna college. There are over 100 institutions of higher learning that begin with A, and more than a dozen Division 1 football teams. For a logo you want something that is instantly identifiable, connected and has some uniqueness to it. I thought the Z was fantastic. I hate the rationale of going back to an A to be more connected with the community. I think that was a load of crap. Long live the Z! Don’t hate this but not a big fan of it either. I think a new logo, or any Akron branding, should include a kangaroo. Such a unique mascot with so many branding opportunities to use but the new “A” totally disregarded it. Edited November 11 by MangoZip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 (edited) 11 hours ago, MDZip said: I know it's kind of a tired topic with the logo, but this one is indeed my favorite. I also liked the A-roo but it wasn't really instantly recognizable as a kangaroo. Looked a bit too much like a donkey. But the Z is so unique, there are only two colleges in the country that start with a Z and I don't think anybody would confuse us with Zane(sville) community college nor Zaytuna college. There are over 100 institutions of higher learning that begin with A, and more than a dozen Division 1 football teams. For a logo you want something that is instantly identifiable, connected and has some uniqueness to it. I thought the Z was fantastic. I hate the rationale of going back to an A to be more connected with the community. I think that was a load of crap. Long live the Z! I will always be team Z! You can make the logo with your fingers, it’s too good Edited November 11 by Reslife4Life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 I love our new A logo. I wasn't happy about switching from the Z as I had been wanting the U to use a Z logo for about 20 years. However, I loved the new A logo the instant I saw it. As far as letter logos go I think it's perfect. Having said that I think we should use the Z as a secondary logo on occasion. My favorite Akron logo (if it ever was an official logo?) was the old 1980-90's cartoon Zippy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 His 👆(yes, his, Idc) sweater should be blue though (couldn't find that one) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 3 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: His 👆(yes, his, Idc) sweater should be blue though (couldn't find that one) That's the bigger annoyance to me - insisting on Zippy being female rather than androgynous. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 11 Report Share Posted November 11 3 hours ago, Blue & Gold said: I love our new A logo. I wasn't happy about switching from the Z as I had been wanting the U to use a Z logo for about 20 years. However, I loved the new A logo the instant I saw it. As far as letter logos go I think it's perfect. Having said that I think we should use the Z as a secondary logo on occasion. My favorite Akron logo (if it ever was an official logo?) was the old 1980-90's cartoon Zippy A cartoon kangaroo should absolutely be part of the marketing efforts with a direct appeal to children. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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