Early Football Previews and Predictions: Game Twelve at Bowling Green

[kreed5120]

17 minutes ago, GP1 said:

He's already having success, it just didn't show up in wins because he was killed by injuries. He has been recruiting well, endowments, win against rival and a real team, two sold out home games, win against Liberty, I thought they had a great game plan against the Zips and executed it as well as they could all things considered. 

 

If any first year Akron coach had the pre-injury success George did the first six games of the start of their career at Akron, we would all be floored at the success. Some of you can't be so obtuse that you can't see what a great hire he was. I wish Akron had the brains to think outside the box and hire someone other then Faust, Ianello, Bowden and Arth. 

3 wins in the MAC will never be an achievement worth celebrating. It's by far and away the worst conference in all of FBS. 

 

Like I said, I'm not saying he won't be great there. I'm simply stating the jury is still out, which it is. I'm not advocating for any particular coaching hire at this time.

[LZIp]

1 minute ago, kreed5120 said:

3 wins in the MAC will never be an achievement worth celebrating. It's by far and away the worst conference in all of FBS. 

 

Like I said, I'm not saying he won't be great there. I'm simply stating the jury is still out, which it is. I'm not advocating for any particular coaching hire at this time.

Technically one win in the MAC, though I would think they beat umASS next week.

[kreed5120]

3 minutes ago, LZIp said:

Technically one win in the MAC, though I would think they beat umASS next week.

Yes, I could have worded it better. I was meaning winning 3 (or 4 with UMess win) games when you play 8 of your 12 games against MAC teams isn't anything special regardless of circumstances. Arguing otherwise is just playing mental gymnastics.

[GP1]

21 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

3 wins in the MAC will never be an achievement worth celebrating. It's by far and away the worst conference in all of FBS. 

 

Like I said, I'm not saying he won't be great there. I'm simply stating the jury is still out, which it is. I'm not advocating for any particular coaching hire at this time.

Look at more than the W-L. Nobody is celebrating. I'm pointing out that without being crippled with injuries, BG is a good team that would have had a chance at Detroit, won around 8 games and gone to a bowl. If BGs season was only the first six games, it would be defined as a success. We've never had that good of a start to a season. 

 

It is common for people to mistake facts for reasons. It's why sports debate is so dumb and why turning on ESPN can only make someone dumber.  The fact is BG will have a 3 win season. The reasons are easily explainable. I don't think a three win season makes George a bad hire and stand by him being a good hire. I wish Akron would hire this boldly after fixing all of the other crap that would destroy a bold hire. I wish at the end of a three win season Akron fans could look back and easily explain it with the understanding that it was a fluke and better days were ahead, but our failures are so many they are hard to explain and fix. 

[kreed5120]

26 minutes ago, GP1 said:

 I don't think a three win season makes George a bad hire and stand by him being a good hire. I wish Akron would hire this boldly after fixing all of the other crap that would destroy a bold hire. I wish at the end of a three win season Akron fans could look back and easily explain it with the understanding that it was a fluke and better days were ahead, but our failures are so many they are hard to explain and fix. 

 

I never said George was a bad hire. I said it's still too early to tell, which I stand by.

[Let'sGoZips94]

4 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I never said George was a bad hire. I said it's still too early to tell, which I stand by.

 

Injuries aside, his team was incredibly undisciplined Tuesday night. 

[Lee Adams]

23 hours ago, Lee Adams said:

Well.. a win is a win. Before the season I said 4-4 in the MAC was minimum. They got that. But I also said major program changes were/are needed. Yep. The more I read posts here about the lack of support from Administration for for football the more obvious it is. If the Admin. refuses to support the program at a DI level then they have to get out of DI! The record spesks for itself. Changing coaches is like moving the bulbs on the Xmas tree. Same tree.

Either put up for DI or drop to 1AA or DII where U can afford to compete every season. Not a big Moorehead fan anymore but the problems go far deeper.

Unfortunately too many delusional on here who ignore history and think the program can compete at this level. STOP!

[clarkwgriswold]

Let's play Jeopardy.

 

The answer is "2004."

[Lee Adams]

17 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said:

Let's play Jeopardy.

 

The answer is "2004."

JDs first year. Charley's last season. Winning record but no Bowl invite. Lee Owens recruit's mainly. I believe they may have beaten Marshall? etc. etc.

[Lee Adams]

10 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

And I'm not saying George can't do well. Let's just wait until he has success before we praise him for it. We can check back in 2-3 years.

 

Edit: As for Deion Indiana is just as hard, if not harder, to win at than Colorado. Especially since the Big 10 is vastly more competitive compared to the Big 12. The coach that deserves praise for turning a program around is Cignetti. Deion had a heisman winner and is still only 16-19 during his tenure.

Why would Indiana get rid of the primero of Western Pennsylvania football. Akron had a chance to hire Tressel, one of the Cignettis etc. a long time ago. Day late and another $ short.

[Lee Adams]

7 minutes ago, Lee Adams said:

JDs first year. Charley's last season. Winning record but no Bowl invite. Lee Owens recruit's mainly. I believe they may have beaten Marshall? etc. etc.

 

8 minutes ago, Lee Adams said:

JDs first year. Charley's last season. Winning record but no Bowl invite. Lee Owens recruit's mainly. I believe they may have beaten Marshall? etc. etc.

So what's the answer Knute?