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Dambrot at least had strong personal ties to his destination. This would be a tough pill to swallow. But we will see what happens.

This would be an insult

I dunno man. This doesn't feel lateral to me, but a slight step down. The Coastal is just as much a one-bid league as the MAC is, and he'd be moving from an elite mid-major to a pretty good mid-major. Yes, it does seem like CofC can pay him more, but I dunno...is this really the first time in his tenure someone has offered him more money to go elsewhere? With Dambrot, it was "I want to coach in a league that can get more than one bid," but assuming a) Groce doesn't feel that way and b) he isn't a lot more bullish on the CAA than I am, I really don't understand why he would do this. I've always sort of thought that I'm not going to hold it against an Akron coach if he leaves for a high major, but for the second time in a row (if it happens), this is not that, and just like I rooted against Dambrot and Duquesne I'm gonna root against Groce and CofC if this comes to pass.

I think it's smoke but we shall see.

Top tier mid major job to another top tier major job, still holding out that he stays. But even if he does, how many times can we keep doing this?

John's Next Endeavor. Full stop.

Feels like the most lateral of laterals. Yeah they don't have FBS ball but I was just in "low country," Citadel has more of a presence in the city than CoC. MAC > CAA

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Thanks for the tip and the typo. Missed it above

You think you all are going to get rid of me that easily. Ha!! I’m not enjoying this situation one bit, but will address my fandom if or when something comes of it. Go Zips!!

Westie catch up

What's overlooked is we're about to lose @Illini Zip

My understanding is Ford has a lot of good relationships including with the money end of things. So if Groce leaves and Ford stays, that’s a good outcome.

I will say Ford was still kind of an unknown and wasn't even the top assistant when Groce left OU. He wasn't going to be offered that job. No way was he going to be offered the Illini job. Butler could have paid him as much, if not more, to be an assistant. Akron can pay him a lot more to be head coach than CoC can pay him to be an assistant.

I know, Samurai again, but...

I will paste the full text here since it is a public post on X. I would note that this mentions fiscal cutbacks at Akron, Kent, and Central but not any proposal to shut any of them down. Ohio’s state-funded universities face an enrollment cliff, tuition is going up, and the value of a college degree is going down. We can’t ignore the problem & I’ve offered an actual solution to fix it, while my opponent @amyactonoh offers what she always does: absolutely nothing. My piece in the Columbus Dispatch this week: The race for governor of Ohio can be a positive opportunity to give voters a choice between competing policy visions for our state – and to have a healthy debate about the right way to improve Ohio. But we risk missing that opportunity in 2026: While I aim to offer clear policies to improve the lives of Ohioans, my opponent offers little more than cheap criticisms of my ideas while offering no solutions of her own. 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In recent years, Cleveland State has cut staff and eliminated NCAA sports programs. The student count at the University of Akron inched up this past year but is at half of its 2010 enrollment level. Kent State launched a "Transformation 2028" restructuring plan last year in search of administrative efficiencies. Central State University remains on “fiscal watch.” While universities struggle to get by, other states have benefited from commonsense reforms. Consider Georgia, which adopted a sensible plan that reduced the number of state universities from 35 in 2011 to 26 by 2018. Notably, their process didn’t start with an agenda of consolidation for its own sake, or with targets set on certain universities. Instead, it began with a set of principles. Their leadership decided they wanted to expand access, reduce duplication, improve attainment and strengthen regional economic development. The results were better retention and more on-time graduation, without increasing tuition. 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Skyrocketing tuition, cratering enrollment and declining quality of education are real problems that demand thoughtful solutions. While my opponent sneered on social media at my ideas, she offers absolutely no alternative solutions to help Ohioans. By contrast, I’m willing to start the challenging conversations we need to lead Ohio to new heights, in higher education and beyond. My plan will create a more competitive, increasingly affordable and rightsized higher education system for taxpayers and students. As other states have demonstrated, thoughtful reform can attract and retain more students, keep tuition affordable and better prepare graduates to compete for higher-paying jobs. There’s no reason Ohio can’t do even better. Either we reform our higher education system with purpose, or we watch it decline by default. 12:17 PM · Mar 28, 2026 · 84.1K Views

Hard to say without knowing the ask. The USF thing seems to be legit - that they offered him but moved on after he asked too much. Maybe he's doing that at UA. Or maybe he is trying to leverage UA into increased support. Ford has been with Groce every coaching stop since OU. I'd suspect he would follow him to Charleston. But I'd absolutely offer him the job. Best chance at continuity of the established culture and players seem to really respect him.

I started a separate thread on the VR stuff under University news

Will Dustin Ford succeed him? Is that the best case scenario?

If we lose him on a lateral move like this everyone in the university above Groce should be fired. This can't happen

These are real sources this time

I don't know what VR said about Akron and Kent but suspect he's talking about some kind of merger.