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They've tried with Ianello...and Brookhart...and Bowden...and Arth...and Motorhead....yet here we are. Maybe it's not all about the head coach?

Those four are a good class. The best 4-year class in a while. They did not always play well, but they always stuck together. They were good soldiers. And they looked after each other. These men will succeed.

Agreed, but some of that also comes back to team discipline and that is on the coaches.

I would say we tried with a $60+ million stadium and whatever we spent on the fieldhouse as well. We have poured so much money into football, far more than any other sports, but it continues to be throwing more good money after bad.

I would have killed to see Lemmy coaching the Zips.

Any one who thinks simply paying close to $1 million to buyout our coach to bring in someone new will magically solve our problems is insane. We've gone down that route with how many coaches in a row? We have much deeper issues that need to be worked on. At this point it's probably way too late unless 2-3 deep pocketed boosters step up to carry the program like Bud has done with basketball. I say 2-3 because the costs to compete in FBS is several times that of hoops.

He's recruiting and coaching them.

Nope, but he's the one that's recruiting and coaching them. So it's on him.

The lady zips got a conference win and they scored 4 goals in one game

Game Day Notes: DeQuan Finn has struggled at times this season, but is at his best when plays break down. The former MAC Player of the Year gives Miami a weapon on offense that few teams can offer. For Akron to have a shot in this one, the Zips will need to contain Finn and slow down Miami’s ground game. Miami has several very capable running backs, but injuries in recent weeks have taken their toll. It remains to be seen who ends up shouldering the bulk of the workload. Kam Perry has been the go-to target in the passing game, already racking up 428 yards on the season. However, Miami isn’t short on talent — several other receivers are more than capable of making plays at any time. Miami has battled injuries along the offensive line and won’t enter this game at full strength. Akron’s defensive front will need to take advantage of that and look to create some disruption. The RedHawks have plenty of talent on the defensive side of the ball and are led by defensive end Adam Trick, linebacker Jackson Kuwatch, and defensive back Eli Blakely. If I’m not mistaken, Miami’s special teams have scored touchdowns in each of the past three weeks. I believe Miami is the best team left on the schedule. Akron will likely need to play close to mistake-free football to have a chance, as points and yards will probably be hard to come by. I’m still picking Miami to win, but hopefully I’m wrong and the Zips can build off last week’s momentum and find a way to get it done. Zips yearly individual stats and how they currently stack up against the rest of the MAC: Finley is 3rd in passing yards and tied for 3rd in passing touchdowns. Gant is tied for 3rd in total rushing yards. Mason is 6th in receiving yards while Polk is 13th. Cooper is 12th in total tackles. Dall is 7th in sacks. Durham and Laventure are tied for 13th. DeWalt is 2nd in passes defended with Dall tied for 3rd. Reed is tied for 7th in interceptions.

2024 Rewind: Miami started slow, dropping their first three games—all against Power Four opponents. From there, the RedHawks found their rhythm, ripping off eight wins with the only blemish coming against Toledo. They were overwhelmed in the MAC Championship Game but responded with a dominant bowl win over Colorado State, finishing the season at 9-5. Chuck Martin enters his 12th season guiding the RedHawks and is now widely considered one of the top coaches in the MAC. Recruiting under Martin: *IN MAC* 2014: On3 - 6th 247 - 12th 2015: On3 - 1st 247 - 1st 2016: On3 - 2nd 247 - 3rd 2017: On3 - 4th 247 - 6th 2018: On3 - 12th 247 - 11th 2019: On3 - 2nd 247 - 2nd 2020: On3 - 5th 247 - 5th 2021: On3 - 7th 247 - 3rd 2022: On3 - 2nd 247 - 1st 2023: On3 - 9th 247 - 7th 2024: On3 - 3rd 247 - 3rd 2025: On3 - 4th 247 - 3rd RedHawks on Offense: Miami faced the challenge of replacing First Team All-MAC quarterback Brett Gabbert this offseason. They may have done more than just fill the void, potentially upgrading the position with 2023 MAC Player of the Year DeQuan Finn. Keyon Mozee, who rushed for over 1,000 yards last season, has moved on. Virginia Tech transfer Jordan Brunson is expected to split snaps with Kenny Tracy, who missed all of 2024 due to injury. The RedHawks went portal crazy at receiver this offseason, with nearly all of their 2024 production now gone. Notre Dame transfer Deion Colzie, Florida State transfer Darion Williamson, and Washington transfer Keith Reynolds are among the names expected to push for starting reps. At tight end, Iowa transfer Grant Leeper appears to have the inside track. Miami finds itself in an unusual spot heading into 2025 without a single returning starter along the offensive line. Stanford transfer Austin Uke is expected to slot in on the interior, while former backup Greg Smith should take over one of the guard spots. Beyond that, the RedHawks will be relying on a heavy dose of youth and inexperience to step up. RedHawks on Defense: Miami seems to field a stout, physical defense every year regardless of who’s wearing the jersey. They’ll need to do it again in 2025, as the entire starting defensive line from last season is gone. The RedHawks do return a pair of key contributors in Nasir Washington and Adam Trick, both of whom saw significant action and will look to step into full-time starting roles. All-MAC linebackers Matt Salopek and Ty Wise have moved on, leaving behind a production void. Part-time starters Corban Hondru and Oscar McWood are back to provide some stability at a position with question marks. Three starters are back in the secondary, including safeties Silas Walters and Eli Blakely, along with cornerback Luke Evans. Blakely earned Third Team All-MAC honors last season. Versatile part-time starter Mychal Yharbrough also returns and can line up just about anywhere in the defensive backfield. Dom Dzioban returns for his senior season and is in line to handle either the kicking or punting duties, depending on how the competition plays out. Position Advantage: QB - Miami RB - Even WR - Akron TE - Akron OL - Even DL - Miami LB - Miami DB - Miami ST - Miami Way too Early Prediction: Miami could stumble out of the gate with so many new faces on offense. That said, this is the perfect year to have DeQuan Finn under center. He’s a true difference maker—capable of turning nothing into something—and his playmaking ability will likely make this offensive line look better than it really is. On defense, there’s enough depth for the RedHawks to remain solid. They may not be elite by G5 standards, but the unit should be good enough to keep them in just about every MAC matchup. If there was ever a year to get Miami, this is it. But we’ve consistently struggled against mobile quarterbacks, and if Finn is healthy and running the show, that’s a tough matchup for the Zips. I think this one turns into a low-scoring grind, with Miami escaping 16-14. Game Day Notes: DeQuan Finn has struggled at times this season, but is at his best when plays break down. The former MAC Player of the Year gives Miami a weapon on offense that few teams can offer. For Akron to have a shot in this one, the Zips will need to contain Finn and slow down Miami’s ground game. Miami has several very capable running backs, but injuries in recent weeks have taken their toll. It remains to be seen who ends up shouldering the bulk of the workload. Kam Perry has been the go-to target in the passing game, already racking up 428 yards on the season. However, Miami isn’t short on talent — several other receivers are more than capable of making plays at any time. Miami has battled injuries along the offensive line and won’t enter this game at full strength. Akron’s defensive front will need to take advantage of that and look to create some disruption. The RedHawks have plenty of talent on the defensive side of the ball and are led by defensive end Adam Trick, linebacker Jackson Kuwatch, and defensive back Eli Blakely. If I’m not mistaken, Miami’s special teams have scored touchdowns in each of the past three weeks. I believe Miami is the best team left on the schedule. Akron will likely need to play close to mistake-free football to have a chance, as points and yards will probably be hard to come by. I’m still picking Miami to win, but hopefully I’m wrong and the Zips can build off last week’s momentum and find a way to get it done. Zips yearly individual stats and how they currently stack up against the rest of the MAC: Finley is 3rd in passing yards and tied for 3rd in passing touchdowns. Gant is tied for 3rd in total rushing yards. Mason is 6th in receiving yards while Polk is 13th. Cooper is 12th in total tackles. Dall is 7th in sacks. Durham and Laventure are tied for 13th. DeWalt is 2nd in passes defended with Dall tied for 3rd. Reed is tied for 7th in interceptions.

Exactly…and I think most of us thought that would be a winnable game but when the team that beat you 45-3 loses to BG I think you need to pencil in another loss there.

People act like it is their money being spent and if it was i would support that argument 100% but it isn't. not at all. the majority of people on here i believe want the team to win but others just come on here to complain and would never be happy. it's always the same thing. and on the two occasions that akron has won they say nothing at all. but the first mistake and instantly the come out with "where's the guru? ". doesn't matter if it is a bad play call or a penalty or an interception it's always the same "fire joe"... it's boring

This is even above the ADs head. The University is in financial distress. We're financially incapable of competing in FBS any longer. The cost to compete has grown exponentially over the last 5-10 years. In that time our enrollment has been nearly cut in half. Even as an Akron fan I can't support throwing away more taxpayer money to support a team that has no chance of competing. This isn't the NFL. There is no billionaire owner to eat the cost.

We are making progress. We are losing small. The alternative is paying nearly $1M to start over, likely with the additional cost of losing big for a few years. Been there, done that. Like I said, Joe's fire in the post-game interview was encouraging. He's holding himself accountable, and he has the guys on the field playing hard. The mistakes are still there, but they are progressively decreasing. A 6-6 season is realistic. I think nearly all of us would have taken that before the season started.

some nfl player that this generation never even heard of or some young coach that no one ever heard of or some high school coach that no one ever heard of that will suddenly fill the stadium and bring in top quality recruits and while you are at it pay joe a million dollars that the school doesn't have to leave, better yet scrap the entire football program all together and maybe just maybe you won't find something to bitch about, then again you probably will

Are you volunteering to pay the $900K+ buyout? If so, I have no objections.

And you're solving zero of the problems by keeping Moorhead. Maybe you hire the wrong next guy...that is the risk. Meanwhile I'm watching a full house at Doyt Perry as the BGSU is trying to hold Toledo off (after BGSU came back from 21-0 down)

An overall respectable performance. It could always be better, but it was more of a game than I expected. Plenty of mistakes, but it's getting better. Joe's frustration and calling his team's performance out as "pissing it away" was encouraging too. If the team had only been playing this way versus Wyoming and UAB, but alas...

the offensive guru was a genius last week, this week he gets the blame for the interception at the goal line and the missed field goal and the stupid penalties? akron should have been winning before it ever got to 10-0. life as a college coach. hero to villain instantly

Just waking up in Hawaiian Standard Time. How productive is our Offensive Guru today? 😏

I think the slip of FCS instead of FBS is somehow....correct.

1st drive- 1 and goal from the 4. Incomplete pass, stupid penalty, interception. 1st drive in second quarter- nice drive, missed 37 yard field goal. It just never ends...

For years many have told us that we can't play at the same time as OSU because nobody would show up. I always thought that if Akron put a decent team on the field at a time an day of week people would go if the program benefited the athletes students alumni fans and general community around Akron. Surely, we could get at least fifteen to twenty thousand to show up for a big game. Well, I turn on the Toledo vs BG game that's starting at the exact same time as the OSU vs IL game, and the first words I hear are "Welcome to sold out Doyt Perry Stadium". Of course, I thought to myself that a lot of Toledo fans showed up..... Wrong, the stadium was almost completely orange. Bowling Green is a cow town less than 30 miles from a city smaller than Akron. There is no greater Cleveland 30 miles away. Their record is not stellar at 2-4, but there is excitement around the team. People showed up. This isn't hard.

Can't afford to have 0 points on two red zone trips.

Central Florida. UCF (D2 are that time).

Or possibly just had their eligibility expire.

The Zips football team seems to be only program in college athletics that has any sort of academic standard held against them in the year of 2025.