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First of all, I made a comment on a different thread related to Coach Arth and I wanted to clarify it was not directed at him. My comment about dumbass decision making WAS SQUARELY DIRECTED at the UA Board and the ones who ultimately make decisions on spending and the hires at the executive level (including Presidents, ADs, Coaches, Deans, etc.). My comments below are not negative to any of our coaches, I have met them all and believe they are trying their best. I was taught about ROI and analytics in business school at UA – our board seems to have forgotten what all of that means. While I love the new buildings and stadiums, things have to be done responsibly. UA is accumulating a tremendous amount of debt from dumbass decisions. I want our teams to win and go to postseason play more than anyone and I would like to see enrollment up and even become more selective but the powers that be don’t seem to have a clue on how to do any of this. The school has accumulated a tremendous amount of debt, period! That needs to be addressed before you go paying TWO head football coaches at the same time. There is no way anyone could justify to me firing a coach when you still owe him money on his contract? Not in the financial situation we are in. We can't afford it and Bowden was not that bad. Regarding Bowden, if they didn't have the belief in him to begin with…why extend his contract? It was a dumbass decision to either 1- extend his contract to begin with or 2- fire him and now pay twice as much with a new head coach. Regarding Coach Arth, IMHO it would be a dumbass decision to fire him if we would then owe him money on his contract. We have to cross our fingers and hope he succeeds for however long we are obligated to him or if he succeeds, however long he stays with us. When did this debacle start? Around 1985. On another thread, kreed5220 posted tenures and records of our last 6 coaches. If you go back one more year you would have seen a 13-year winning record with Coach Dennison at 80–62–2 and before him Gordon Larson with a 12-year winning record of 74–33–5. Hmmm. Both of these men were loved by the Akron community and loved being a part of it. This whole skid started when Coach D was fired for Gerry Faust!! Things have never been the same. We have also gone through 7 different presidents at UoA during this timeframe ? After all of these dumbass decisions, the board had the solution right in front of them. A gift was with Jim Tressel, Keith Dambrot, Terry Bowden and Jim Dennison on campus. They had a chance to bring in the Akron community with beloved leaders and right some wrongs. Since I joined ZN I have posted my belief that UA would be served better by home grown leaders.....people that want to be here and not just as a stepping stone. If we would have made Jim Tressel President, Jim Dennison AD I guarantee you they would have kept Keith Dambrot and Terry Bowden. You pair those four gentlemen with Lebron James…..now we are talking some serious fundraising and enthusiasm from the community. They are the type of people the Akron community could identify with and get behind. These are men that would have STAYED at UA and would have taken pride in solidifying their legacies in Ohio at UA. They are the type of men that could have figured out a way to get basketball the facilities it needed. They are men with common sense. Could you imagine the reaction of a top football recruit if Terry Bowden, Jim Tressel and Bobby Bowden walked in to their living room?! How about a top basketball recruit with KD, Lebron and Tressel walking in (with top notch facilities)? I realize this is a lot of hindsight but I have been saying this same on ZN since I joined. There seems to be panic with the Board at UA. They are making bad decisions to try to fix previous bad decisions. Leadership is to blame. It’s kind of reminds me of the Redskins since Daniel Snyder bought the team and is now running it in to the ground. It’s all about poor leadership and financial responsibility. So, what next? Learn from mistakes, use ROI, analytics…. Hell, use common sense!!

WE DID NOT SCORE A TOUCHDOWN IN OCTOBER! (and now into the first week of November).....and people were complaining about Terry Bowden's offensive coordinator. WOW!! ?

You obviously do not understand my post. Did you just say "Child please!" to me ?

You could drop to whatever level you want. If the same dumbasses keep making dumbass decisions...it doesn’t matter. In fact, dropping to a lower level would be a dumbass decision.

We have scored 3 points in the last three games ? A couple years ago we had Jim Tressel, Jim Dennison, Keith Dambrot and Terry Bowden (and Bobby sometimes) on campus. F%$king moronic to have let them all go. Imagine where we would be if; Jim Tressel - UoA President Jim Dennison - Athletic Director (if he would have accepted) Keith Dambrot - Mens Basketball Coach Terry Bowden - Football Coach On a side note, if Coach D was our AD, I bet he could have persuaded Paul Winters to come back.

UA Mens Fall Sports Us Them Combined record 0 - 10 Combined Scores 57 - 163

Slow, sloppy, uninspired...backline unorganized/confused. Worst Zips soccer I can remember watching.

Take the Zips. We have home field advantage ?

Lebron and Dusquene

Yup and Trust me, I don't like it but it is what it is. I don't get it....Xavier and Dayton have been successful.

And that was my exact comment years ago when "THAT" stadium was built. The Georgetown, Gonzaga, UConn model was the solution. Basketball and soccer was where the money should have been invested. KD and Lebron were our only shot at making a leap. Those two were what made us unique. The best basketball player in the world and his coach were right here!! Our chance to break out was to have people that are loyal to UA and the city. Tressel, Dambrot and Lebron were those people. They are all gone and sadly I think we will have a revolving door with presidents and coaches. BTW - I never griped without giving suggestions.

Those of us that have offered solutions get smacked by the ZNO crew, so what is the point. A comment was made about "EMU, NIU, and Miami actually start to invest in their basketball programs". Well.....what about Akron? What have we done except put glue and paint on a poorly designed JAR? Our destiny was set when a new arena got squashed - PERIOD. Bye bye KD...tight ties with Lebron and any chances of anything better than the MAC. We are exactly where we deserve to be.

Paul Winters should have been the hire. It could have happened. That would have righted some wrongs and gotten me excited.

How? Other than it being the same time last year.

This whole thing parallels what is going on with our country. People want to protest, tweet, complain but they don't have answers. Common sense is gone! To those that didn't want Jim Tressel as president....big mistake IMHO. To those that have been calling for Terry Bowden's head - big mistake. There was a great chance to capitalize on the "This is Akron" promo with Tressel, Dambrot, Lebron....I think Embick and Bowden could be lifers too. Now we have a revolving door of presidents and coaches. What's the plan folks? This is what you want?

This hire, regardless of who it is, will show LW's philosophy. It's apparent it will be a young "up and comer" who's tenure will be dictated by how quick the success will be.

....and not offensive coordinators?

Love to see this tool lose

True Dat!! Constantly losing players after a year or two....reloading.....getting them to gel. Absolutely Amazing!!!

I hear ya but look through the posts from the past. MANY (maybe not you) said Dambrot needed to go because he couldn't "take us to the next level". There were multiple posts about 1 and done in post season, embarrassing losses, etc. Hey bud, I loved Dambrot and my post is in no way a disservice to what he did for us. He is a friend and I was happy to have him as our coach, sad to see him leave. I just don't understand what the "next level" is. You have the power 5 Conferences and then everyone else....Being in the MAC, you hope to knock off a marquis team in the 2-3 chances you get every year. Once you get in to MAC play...any team can win, the parody is ridiculous. In an attempt to get to the "next level" you can hire a hot shot young coach who will be gone in 2 years and fall in to oblivion or respectable coach who will stay (i.e. Solich at OU, TB with us). Just sayin'......be careful what you wish for.

What is the next level you all are looking for? So, who can lead us to the next level....a young hot shot coach who will leave after 2-3 years? This reminds me of the discussions around our basketball team "going to the next level" and KD not being the guy to do it. Bball wins 20+ games, MAC Championships, loses marquis games - deemed a failure by most...KD can't win the big ones and take us to the "next level" FBall is consistently competitive, has marquis wins, 4 years with Wagon Wheel, bowl appearances, a bowl win - deemed a failure...TB can't take us to the "next level" The definitions of "next level" on here are all over the place. We are and will remain a MAC school - that in itself limits what level you can get to IMHO.

Thanks...it appears they don't make em' anymore. How much you want for yours ;-)

Love it! http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/fl-sp-fau-oklahoma-game-20180901-story.html

So predictable...yawn. Stupid me for coming on ZipsNation to ask the question.

Anyone know where I can get a Zippy head cover for my driver?