johnnyzip84 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Yep. Now for two in a row home-cookin in preparation for the Bracketbuster & MAC East. Arguably our worst game of the year (except, ironically, from the line), and we pull off a win over a very underrated WMU team. Good job guys. I'd like to say that I called the Toledo upset today (via facebook status), and shared with a friend in Vegas. He promptly bent a parlay of Toledo to win, Akron to cover, and the over (140.5) for the Akron game, even though i told him to stay away from the Zips tonight. Oh man, he can't be too happy with Q right now Well the over was out of play by then anyway I suppose. We may have been fortunate to escape, but Zeke & Tree were beasts when we absolutely needed them to be. Awesome job big fellas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted February 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Oh, and Steve Hawkins looks like Mr. Slate. Quite excellent ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I think Chauncey is too talented to only play 10mins a game. Wish we had more room to play him. This team is jam packed with talent. Gonna be an interesting fight for minutes next year. Great game for Zeke and Tree Not so great for Serb Harney and McClannahan. It sure is nice having multiple weapons. Lets Go Zips! On to the next one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 ...and I thought Walsh looked really solid too. Not hearing much mentioned about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Our 3-point shooting was horrible. Just horrible. We made 3 of 20. McClanahan and Nikola combined for 0-7. I don't think they had their feet set on any of those attempts, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Nik 30 min, 0-6 fg, 3 to, 6 reb, 2 pts Brett 14 min, 0-5 fg, 1 to, 0 pts/ast/reb Why were they both in at the end of regulation and in ot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Walsh had 7 rebounds. I thought one of the key plays was Walsh taking off from the top of the key for an offensive rebound and then tipping the ball in. When can you remember having an Akron guard that could rebound the ball. The Zips were terrible on the 3 tonight going 3 for 21. Alex hit 2 and Walsh hit one. Both the Serb and Nitro were in love with the 3 ball and went a collective o for 11 shooting and 0 for 7 on the 3 ball. I thought the refs were blowing the whistles a great deal tonight. It really slowed down the game. The good news is that we only had 9 turnovers and shot well from the foul line. The bad news is that is the only place we shot the ball well. It is great team to win on the road when several of your players are not shooting well. Go Zips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Always find it interesting to see the other sides perspective, this came off the WMU board. Zips are still getting significant respect. RE: Akron could go undefeated in the MAC next year I believe they lose two contributors, cvetenovich and mcclanahan. But their other 7 guys would start for anyone in the MAC. They will be tough next year. Ohio returns everyone too. Seriously, their second five of Treadwell, Harney, Gilliam, Mclanahan, and their tenth man could finish first or second in the West. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Nik 30 min, 0-6 fg, 3 to, 6 reb, 2 pts Brett 14 min, 0-5 fg, 1 to, 0 pts/ast/reb Why were they both in at the end of regulation and in ot? Didn't we make up a 5-point deficit, and subsequently win the game during that exact span? Offensively, those guys were atrocious. But they are seniors who know how to win these types of games. And they play hard D. Of bigger concern is Harney, who is defensively a big liability. He was slightly better this game than EMU...at least he put his hands up a couple times to block the passing lanes. But for the most part his arms are at his sides, he avoids contact and gets beat off the dribble. As nasty and aggressive as Tree has become, Harney has gone the opposite way. He's gotta step it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Dambrot got outcoached tonight...but our free throw shooting is the main story again. What the heck is wrong with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Dambrot got outcoached tonight...but our free throw shooting is the main story again. What the heck is wrong with us? Until I see each player's free throw rate for the game I will withhold judgement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinZip Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Dambrot got outcoached tonight...but our free throw shooting is the main story again. What the heck is wrong with us? I think its just one of the chapters in what was a pretty sloppy performance. Solid game by WMU also perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4110 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Helped? He did more than help! he did way more than help!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4110 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Nik 30 min, 0-6 fg, 3 to, 6 reb, 2 pts Brett 14 min, 0-5 fg, 1 to, 0 pts/ast/reb Why were they both in at the end of regulation and in ot? it seems like coach tries to show a certain loyalty to the upperclass players. he says he'll go with who is playing well but always strays away. the coaching is shakier than the playing sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'm sorry, we won last night right? And we all want to win every night, right? So some of you are questioning Dambrot because we are 9-1 in our last 10 games? Give me a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I'm sorry, we won last night right? And we all want to win every night, right? So some of you are questioning Dambrot because we are 9-1 in our last 10 games? Give me a break.Amen. It's probably the "Dambrot hot seat" people from last year. I completely disagree with the "outcoached" comments. We were playing the best team in the west on the road. The same team that came within 5 at OU and took K-ent to OT. If WMU is healthy all year, they're tops in the west and it probably isn't close. I look for them to sweep their 2nd run in the west. And we won a game, on the road, with zilch for offensive contributions from our seniors. Good teams find ways to win when they shouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Dambrot got outcoached tonight...but our free throw shooting is the main story again. What the heck is wrong with us? I disagree. Hawkins made two awful coaching decisons.. He did not play Stainbrook the last 10 minutes. He was disrupting our bigs all night long. Without him Zeke really dominated late in the game. And the end of game play to run down and out the clock was terrible...Still have no idea what they were trying to do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupitertoo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I disagree. Hawkins made two awful coaching decisons.. He did not play Stainbrook the last 10 minutes. He was disrupting our bigs all night long. Without him Zeke really dominated late in the game. And the end of game play to run down and out the clock was terrible...Still have no idea what they were trying to do.. Good coaches sometimes will their teams to victory on the road. Dambrot does that. Be happy you have him and not John Groce of OU, who has built one of the league's softest teams. Disgusting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I think people are putting far too much weight into Western Michigan’s poor record. They’ve been hit by more injuries and suspensions than any other team in the league, with the possible exception of Miami. Now that they’re healthy (especially Whitfield and Ward), Hawkins has a nice assortment of pieces with which to assemble a pretty decent basketball team. You might even argue that the injuries, in the long run, could very well help them com MAC tournament time by allowing Whittington, Ritchie and others to emerge as contributors. Write it down. WMU will knock off an unfortunate MAC East team in the tournament. People are complaining about KD’s coaching last night. While I’ll agree Nik and Nitro were repeatedly offensive on the offensive side, I think KD deserves credit for recognizing and exploiting the mismatches Tree and Zeke posed inside. That’s where the tide turned. I love having both of those guys on the floor together. I'll add this. At the beginning of the year it was as if the Zips didn't know how to win a close game. Now they play like they don't know how to LOSE a close game. That, in itself, is HUGE at this point in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip_ME87 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I think people are putting far too much weight into Western Michigan’s poor record. They’ve been hit by more injuries and suspensions than any other team in the league, with the possible exception of Miami. Now that they’re healthy (especially Whitfield and Ward), Hawkins has a nice assortment of pieces with which to assemble a pretty decent basketball team. You might even argue that the injuries, in the long run, could very well help them com MAC tournament time by allowing Whittington, Ritchie and others to emerge as contributors. Write it down. WMU will knock off an unfortunate MAC East team in the tournament. People are complaining about KD’s coaching last night. While I’ll agree Nik and Nitro were repeatedly offensive on the offensive side, I think KD deserves credit for recognizing and exploiting the mismatches Tree and Zeke posed inside. That’s where the tide turned. I love having both of those guys on the floor together. I'll add this. At the beginning of the year it was as if the Zips didn't know how to win a close game. Now they play like they don't know how to LOSE a close game. That, in itself, is HUGE at this point in the season. I agree with your points, but our team still doesn't seem to be playing up to their potential, and they're about 2/3 of the way through the MAC part of the schedule. They should be playing more consistently by now. I can't help but think of a quote from the movie "The Express" (movie about Ernie Davis)...If you practice half-@ss, then you'll play half-@ss. If that what's happening with the Zips, then KD and staff need to find a way to correct it. I know this team is greater than they showed us last night; we've seen it from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I keep hearing the old line, "good teams find a way to win". I think in some cases, I hear it used here as more of a hope that it is true. It's not some kind of standard answer that fits every situation. And it's not some kind of character trait of a great athletic team. In the case of the game last night, we played horribly, but still happened to have more points than the other team in the end, despite doing many, many things that would cause a team to lose. I've heard this from both coaches and players. This team simply isn't doing enough things right, often enough. And until they can learn to play like that, we will continue to have the kinds of games we have seen over the last several weeks. Thank God we've made just enough good plays so far to put those games in the win column in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Amen. It's probably the "Dambrot hot seat" people from last year. I completely disagree with the "outcoached" comments. We were playing the best team in the west on the road. The same team that came within 5 at OU and took K-ent to OT. If WMU is healthy all year, they're tops in the west and it probably isn't close. I look for them to sweep their 2nd run in the west. And we won a game, on the road, with zilch for offensive contributions from our seniors. Good teams find ways to win when they shouldn't. The Zips are in WMU's heads. Haven't we won something like 10-of-11 vs. them? They choked it away at the end, and Zeke and Q carried us. It's nice to have confident players on the floor when the other team is fielding chokers who don't know how to close a game out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burrdie Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Good Morning, Well, another win because of talent. As I have said before it is the process not the outcome. This process was not so good. Although give credit to the defense of the other team. BUT then we should readjust to fit their defense and offense not sure we did that. Oh I keep wishing that the talent, preparedness and coaching will all come together sometime before the end of the season. Maybe it will take another season for that all to happen. Guys you just have to work harder and harder and harder When you think you cannot go harder then go harder. You will be pleasantly surprised at how much you have in you to succedd That is what makes great teams. Some teams with lesser talent win big in the NCAA because of hard work and effort. It is there just may take another year to find it. Good Game and another win. I keep hearing the old line, "good teams find a way to win". I think in some cases, I hear it used here as more of a hope that it is true. It's not some kind of standard answer that fits every situation. And it's not some kind of character trait of a great athletic team. In the case of the game last night, we played horribly, but still happened to have more points than the other team in the end, despite doing many, many things that would cause a team to lose. I've heard this from both coaches and players. This team simply isn't doing enough things right, often enough. And until they can learn to play like that, we will continue to have the kinds of games we have seen over the last several weeks. Thank God we've made just enough good plays so far to put those games in the win column in the meantime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 What's up with the free throw comments? 18-23 from the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 I can't believe all the teeth gnashing and complaining about the fact that we are 9-1 and in sole possession of first place in the MAC. Seriously! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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