Bob Huggins To Be Inducted Into HOF

[Let'sGoZips94]

2 hours ago, Zippy87 said:

 

Bob Huggins said a stupid, ignorant comment that was wrong and everyone but you seems to get that. Your defenses of him were all over the place and, quite frankly, ridiculous. I'm not going to go further than that because I'm not trying to get a vacation from the forum. Name-call all you want if it makes you feel better.

 

Have a good one.

 

Ignorant would mean he's not educated on or aware of the situation, which is doubtful being a college basketball coach. What if Huggins just doesn't give a damn what he says, because being offended is a choice people make? 

 

I have gotten several PMs from ZN members who share similar points of view as I do, whether it be agreeing that the Huggy situation is overblown or that the herd mentality of a singular thought without accepting any other viewpoint is nauseating. 

 

I just wanted you to finish whatever you were insinuating about me. Seems to be potentially ban-worthy, so I'm intrigued. 

 

Go Zips, man. That's our common ground. Oh, and KSUcks.

[kreed5120]

40 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Ignorant would mean he's not educated on or aware of the situation, which is doubtful being a college basketball coach. What if Huggins just doesn't give a damn what he says, because being offended is a choice people make? 

 

I have gotten several PMs from ZN members who share similar points of view as I do, whether it be agreeing that the Huggy situation is overblown or that the herd mentality of a singular thought without accepting any other viewpoint is nauseating. 

 

I just wanted you to finish whatever you were insinuating about me. Seems to be potentially ban-worthy, so I'm intrigued. 

 

Go Zips, man. That's our common ground. Oh, and KSUcks.

 

Bob Huggins is literally on record saying it was an insensitive remark that was inexcusable on his part. Even in hindsight he admits he was in the wrong. Meanwhile, here you are trying to play it off like he did nothing wrong...

 

I didn't really see anyone here trying to burn him at the stake for this or cancel him as you put it, but it's blatantly obvious he messed up. He should have never said what he said, simple as that.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/west-virginia-coach-bob-huggins-apologizes-for-using-anti-gay-slur-in-radio-interview-212451232.html

Edited May 10, 2023 by kreed5120

[Let'sGoZips94]

44 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Bob Huggins is literally on record saying it was an insensitive remark that was inexcusable on his part. Even in hindsight he admits he was in the wrong. Meanwhile, here you are trying to play it off like he did nothing wrong...

 

I didn't really see anyone here trying to burn him at the stake for this or cancel him as you put it, but it's blatantly obvious he messed up. He should have never said what he said, simple as that.

 

https://sports.yahoo.com/west-virginia-coach-bob-huggins-apologizes-for-using-anti-gay-slur-in-radio-interview-212451232.html

 

I struggle to believe that apology is authentic. How often do we see this song & dance? Person says something that offends a group of people, mainstream media & the mob come after them, company forces said person to release a statement with an apology, time passes, and the MSM/mob eventually move onto the next thing they decide to get pissed about. Rinse & repeat. 

 

The first post literally insinuated he may not be in the Hall of Fame because of this if he wasn't already inducted. Several posts stated that whatever punishment he receives is warranted. Others called him a bigot, which is an overused & cheapened term at this point. 

 

Furthermore, being offended by what Huggins said is ok. Telling others they have to be offended is not. 

Edited May 10, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94

[kreed5120]

5 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

I struggle to believe that apology is authentic. How often do we see this song & dance? Person says something that offends a group of people, mainstream media & the mob come after them, company forces said person to release a statement with an apology, time passes, and the MSM/mob eventually move onto the next thing they decide to get pissed about. Rinse & repeat. 

 

The first post literally insinuated he may not be in the Hall of Fame because of this if he wasn't already inducted. Several posts stated that whatever punishment he receives is warranted. Others called him a bigot, which is an overused & cheapened term at this point. 

 

Furthermore, being offended by what Huggins said is ok. Telling others they have to be offended is not. 

 

He at the very least regrets saying it publicly. There is no escaping that truth.

 

That same poster also said he has no problem keeping Huggins name hanging in Akron's rafters and that the HoF comment was just a cheeky comment and not how he actually felt. It WAS a bigot comment. There is no escaping that. He literally used f*g in a derogatory context. Actions do have consequences. If I said that at my place of employment, I'd most certainly be sent to HR. At the very least get reprimanded, likely even fired. Do I think he should be fired for it? No, but he certainly deserves criticism for the comments.

 

I think you're mistaking this forum for other areas on the internet, like reddit, that have been much more critical of Huggins comments. People here seem to be rational acknowledging that he screwed up, but aren't coming after him looking to burn him at the stake. Nobody here even said he deserves to be fired. Although some acknowledged that it's a possibility that he will be.

[GP1]

Things like this are being said every day in NBA locker rooms and on the court during games by future Hall of Famers. These guys aren't stupid enough to say it on radio. For stupidity alone, Huggins should be fired. 

[clarkwgriswold]

...and to think some of us come here as a diversion from the persistent debates in society...

[Zippy87]

9 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Ignorant would mean he's not educated on or aware of the situation, which is doubtful being a college basketball coach. What if Huggins just doesn't give a damn what he says, because being offended is a choice people make? 

 

I have gotten several PMs from ZN members who share similar points of view as I do, whether it be agreeing that the Huggy situation is overblown or that the herd mentality of a singular thought without accepting any other viewpoint is nauseating. 

 

I just wanted you to finish whatever you were insinuating about me. Seems to be potentially ban-worthy, so I'm intrigued. 

 

Go Zips, man. That's our common ground. Oh, and KSUcks.

 

I don't know you so I'm not going to get drawn into a personal beef. It's clear you think what he said wasn't a big deal (and even funny?), I think it was awful and bigoted...agree to disagree and move on.

 

Go Zips.

[Let'sGoZips94]

9 minutes ago, Zippy87 said:

 

I don't know you so I'm not going to get drawn into a personal beef. It's clear you think what he said wasn't a big deal (and even funny?), I think it was awful and bigoted...agree to disagree and move on.

 

Go Zips.

 

Correct. When I watch movies like Blazing Saddles, I laugh, or when Rap God plays during a workout, I listen to it, and I'm not going to pretend to be offended just to save face with the herd mentality when it's said publicly. 

 

All for agreeing to disagreeing and moving on. Go Zips.

[Zippy87]

1 hour ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

Correct. When I watch movies like Blazing Saddles, I laugh, or when Rap God plays during a workout, I listen to it, and I'm not going to pretend to be offended just to save face with the herd mentality when it's said publicly. 

 

All for agreeing to disagreeing and moving on. Go Zips.

 

This isn't at all why people are reacting negatively to his words. 

 

I had a supervisor at UA who had an incredible impact on my life, probably moreso than anyone aside from my parents. He taught me (and others) about professionalism, responsibility, leadership, and so much more. Helped myself and countless people better our lives and our careers and become better people. Truly a remarkable man.

 

He also happened to be gay. 

 

I recall one day my Junior year overhearing a classmate use disparaging remarks toward LGBT people. This supervisor heard it too. He was an educator first, so he approached the situation with love instead of anger and helped the student to understand why his words were wrong to use. But I could tell hearing one of his students say them was hurtful to him, and I never forgot it.

 

You may not have been impacted by Huggins' words, and that's ok. But I promise they had an impact on others. A LGBT student-athlete hearing a powerful and respected coach use them, possibly even someone on his own team. Or another coach. Or a professor at the school. Or any WV student or employee, for that matter.

 

Recognizing that although words may not have hurt us personally but likely hurt others isn't "herd mentality", it's having empathy for others.

 

I don't know Huggins - I'm guessing most here don't. I don't know if this was a reflection of who he is or if he got caught up trying to be funny and had a really bad moment. I'm not going to say he should be fired or not fired.so much more context is needed to make that decision. But what he said was wrong and hurtful to many, and I hope he genuinely learns and becomes a better person and leader from this.

 

Now, I move on.

 

Go Zips.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Zippy87

[LZIp]

 

[Captain Kangaroo]

Damn. I was hoping we could get him on the cheap after Groce departs for the Dayton job following the Zips Sweet 16 run next year! 😡

 

[Let'sGoZips94]

2 hours ago, Zippy87 said:

 

This isn't at all why people are reacting negatively to his words. 

 

I had a supervisor at UA who had an incredible impact on my life, probably moreso than anyone aside from my parents. He taught me (and others) about professionalism, responsibility, leadership, and so much more. Helped myself and countless people better our lives and our careers and become better people. Truly a remarkable man.

 

He also happened to be gay. 

 

I recall one day my Junior year overhearing a classmate use dispariging remarks toward LGBT people. This supervisor heard it too. He was an educator first, so he approached the situation with love instead of anger and helped the student to understand why his words were wrong to use. But I could tell hearing one of his students say them was hurtful to him, and I never forgot it.

 

You may not have been impacted by Huggins' words, and that's ok. But I promise they had an impact on others. A LGBT student-athlete hearing a powerful and respected coach use them, possibly even someone on his own team. Or another coach. Or a professor at the school. Or any WV student or employee, for that matter.

 

Recognizing that although words may not have hurt us personally but likely hurt others isn't "herd mentality", it's having empathy for others.

 

I don't know Huggins - I'm guessing most here don't. I don't know if this was a reflection of who he is or if he got caught up trying to be funny and had a really bad moment. I'm not going to say he should be fired or not fired.so much more context is needed to make that decision. But what he said was wrong and hurtful to many, and I hope he genuinely learns and becomes a better person and leader from this.

 

Now, I move on.

 

Go Zips.

 

It's only "hurtful" because people choose to let a word "hurt" them. Being offended is a choice.  Then how do you (being a general term) get more people to be offended? Tell them they're wrong and a lesser person for not being offended like you. That is absolutely herd mentality. 

 

I brought up Saudi Arabia, their vast array of investments in US companies, their laws against gay rights (punishable by death), and the lack of outrage vs this situation where a word was used. I brought up how this word appears in songs, movies, comedy shows with little to no outrage. I was laughed at and told my angle of the discussion is ridiculous. 

 

It's hard to take serious a situation that has so much variance when someone can choose to be outraged/offended/practice empathy.

 

P.S. "Sensitivity Training" is the biggest indoctrination crock of 💩. "Think like this or else"

Edited May 10, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94

[zippy5]

3 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

All for agreeing to disagreeing and moving on. Go Zips.

What happened to this 😂

[Let'sGoZips94]

4 minutes ago, zippy5 said:

What happened to this 😂

 

Ask the person that followed up a similar sentiment with a story insinuating those who don't think a certain way in this situation are lesser people for it. 

 

Convenient how that person's similar sentiment and follow-up post weren't called out - just mine. 

 

All good. Go Zips.

Edited May 10, 2023 by Let'sGoZips94

[Captain Kangaroo]

[LZIp]

Not a good offseason for Huggy.

 

[ZippyRulz]

1 hour ago, LZIp said:

Not a good offseason for Huggy.

 

 

[LoyalZIP]

Sad way to go out. Hell of a career. I hope he’s okay. 

[clarkwgriswold]

Yep, Huggy has to be done after this fresh on the heels of the reduction of his salary after due controversial radio comments.  Hell of way to end a great career.

[LZIp]

So, who does WVU target?….

[Spin]

You can consider it freedom of speech, or an attack against a segment of society.

 

Bottom line we ALL know what the consequences are. Many of us had to learn the hard way. There’s just some lines you do not cross in this society at this moment in time. 

Edited June 18, 2023 by Spin

[ZippyRulz]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bob-huggins-to-resign-at-west-virginia-hall-of-fame-coach-will-step-down-from-post-in-wake-of-dui-arrest/

 

According to the criminal complaint filed by the Pittsburgh Police Department, Huggins' blood alcohol level read .210 — nearly three times the legal limit and an intoxication level so dangerous it can hospitalize some adults. Empty beer cans and bottles were found in trash bags on the passenger side floor and in the trunk of Huggins' school-issued SUV. An empty cooler that appeared to have been recently used was also in the vehicle. 

The arrest came around 8:30 p.m. ET in Pittsburgh. Huggins was initially spotted outside of his car by an officer due to his GMC Yukon Denali blocking traffic after suffering a shredded tire. Huggins, 69, was unable to explain why his tire was destroyed and could not tell police what city he was in. 

"Huggins could not tell us how he got to Pittsburgh," the criminal complaint states.

Huggins provided police with a receipt from a Burger King in Washington, Pennsylvania, which sits 28 miles southwest from where he was arrested. The Burger King receipt was timestamped from seven hours earlier in the day. When questioned by police, Huggins could not detail what he'd been doing in the time between, and according to the complaint, didn't understand what police were asking him. 

Huggins also told police he believed he was in "Columbus," presumably in reference to Columbus, Ohio, a city nearly three hours and 185 miles west from Pittsburgh.

"Officer Bertan asked Huggins approximately 10 times where he was actually at, and he never once responded with the current city he was in," according to the arrest report. Huggins failed multiple field sobriety tests and was released on bond Saturday. He has a preliminary hearing forthcoming, the date not yet having been determined. 

[ZippyRulz]

50 minutes ago, LZIp said:

So, who does WVU target?….

 

FAU coach, SDSU coach, Princeton coach...

 

[LZIp]

6 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said:

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bob-huggins-to-resign-at-west-virginia-hall-of-fame-coach-will-step-down-from-post-in-wake-of-dui-arrest/

 

According to the criminal complaint filed by the Pittsburgh Police Department, Huggins' blood alcohol level read .210 — nearly three times the legal limit and an intoxication level so dangerous it can hospitalize some adults. Empty beer cans and bottles were found in trash bags on the passenger side floor and in the trunk of Huggins' school-issued SUV. An empty cooler that appeared to have been recently used was also in the vehicle. 

The arrest came around 8:30 p.m. ET in Pittsburgh. Huggins was initially spotted outside of his car by an officer due to his GMC Yukon Denali blocking traffic after suffering a shredded tire. Huggins, 69, was unable to explain why his tire was destroyed and could not tell police what city he was in. 

"Huggins could not tell us how he got to Pittsburgh," the criminal complaint states.

Huggins provided police with a receipt from a Burger King in Washington, Pennsylvania, which sits 28 miles southwest from where he was arrested. The Burger King receipt was timestamped from seven hours earlier in the day. When questioned by police, Huggins could not detail what he'd been doing in the time between, and according to the complaint, didn't understand what police were asking him. 

Huggins also told police he believed he was in "Columbus," presumably in reference to Columbus, Ohio, a city nearly three hours and 185 miles west from Pittsburgh.

"Officer Bertan asked Huggins approximately 10 times where he was actually at, and he never once responded with the current city he was in," according to the arrest report. Huggins failed multiple field sobriety tests and was released on bond Saturday. He has a preliminary hearing forthcoming, the date not yet having been determined. 

Though drinking and driving is serious no matter the circumstances, there's a difference between having a couple of beers after work with your buddy and getting nailed for having a tail light out and this. Hope the best for Bob.

[Spin]

He is darn lucky it was the police who stopped him. If it were another occupied vehicle that stopped him, or a pedestrian, losing his job might have been the least of his problems.

Edited June 18, 2023 by Spin