The World of College Football

[Hilltopper]

1 minute ago, GP1 said:

Great question. The answer is absolutely not. In no way shape or form is it better. 

 

The money is not helpful because the athletic departments are more broke than ever. If former athletic directors of mac schools had any self awareness, they would apologize to their former employers for the buffalo run they sent their schools on. 

 

The players are not as good. Where are players like Leftwich, Pennington, Frye, Blackburn, Roethlisberger, Hixon, Moss, etc?  

 

People say MACtion is a great brand. No, it is the brand of empty stadiums, ruined rivalry games, disinterested announcers and low quality play. 

 

The MAC is doing less than ever to make their schools a benefit to the athletes students alumni fans and general community around their schools. It's really disgraceful what has happened to the MAC. 

I think the weeknight games exposed how the MAC was willing to whore itself out for a few bucks. Also, lots of potential recruits from warm southern states saw just how cold and miserable it was to play a night game in November in the north. That has coincided with the rise of the southern schools growth as large swaths of northerners have migrated to warmer climates.

[GP1]

16 minutes ago, ClevelandZip said:

Judging by how little our annual payouts from the MAC are, I’d say whatever money ESPN does rake in from these weekday games, they largely keep.

Even if ESPN breaks even, they need to fill their airways with something and the MAC was dumb enough to take the bait. In addition, ESPN uses that time to promote their lineup of programing that draws more viewers and advertising revenue. 

[GP1]

Tulane has 9 wins and has been good in recent years. They have historically been a horrendous program. If you think winning can't happen for sky, you are kidding yourself. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

TOS to Columbus...

 

Beautiful. Just beautiful. Plant that flag in that Block O!

[akzipper]

On 11/30/2024 at 4:32 PM, Let'sGoZips94 said:

TOS to Columbus...

 

Beautiful. Just beautiful. Plant that flag in that Block O!

 

Seeing OSU gear everywhere is usually annoying. But on Saturday, the fact that all of those people were miserable makes me happy. Especially since 99% of them didn't attend that school and are just frontrunners. 

[GP1]

In all seriousness about OSU losing, there is one truth..... OSU is spending far too much money on players and coaches to be getting the results they are getting. Ryan Day will get the blame, but he didn't miss two extremely easy FGs. Now that the money is above the table and in high volume, it's time sports fans put the blame on failure on players when they deserve it. There are 18-23 year olds playing in the NHL and MLB who take a lot of heat from fan and the media when they fail. It's time we treat college players like the pros they are. High level college football is no longer amateur. It's professional. Time for fans start acting like it. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

5 hours ago, GP1 said:

In all seriousness about OSU losing, there is one truth..... OSU is spending far too much money on players and coaches to be getting the results they are getting. Ryan Day will get the blame, but he didn't miss two extremely easy FGs. Now that the money is above the table and in high volume, it's time sports fans put the blame on failure on players when they deserve it. There are 18-23 year olds playing in the NHL and MLB who take a lot of heat from fan and the media when they fail. It's time we treat college players like the pros they are. High level college football is no longer amateur. It's professional. Time for fans start acting like it. 

 

Ryan Day absolutely deserves the blame. I'm all for the players shouldering a good chunk of the blame as well, but Ryan Day is 1-4 vs. Michigan with an entire senior class going pants-less (referring to the gold pants each player receives for beating Michigan). His game plan was potentially drawn up by a Kent State student, it was that dumb. $20M NIL budget for 10 points - that's a coaching problem. And then to stand around after the game, do nothing about your players, then have the cajones to ask someone "what happened" - inexcusable. He deserves to be fired immediately, and will be if they don't win a National Championship (although some OSUcks honks want him fired regardless). 

[zippy5]

We spend too much time talking about OSU here

[UA1996MAENG]

15 hours ago, akzipper said:

 

Seeing OSU gear everywhere is usually annoying. But on Saturday, the fact that all of those people were miserable makes me happy. Especially since 99% of them didn't attend that school and are just frontrunners. 

I live in Central Ohio, and in just a few short years I went from OSU fan to indifferent to OSU to hating OSU fans.  Insufferable a-holes.  The lunatic fringe in Columbus are the 2-3% who are not insane. 

[Captain Kangaroo]

1 hour ago, zippy5 said:

We spend too much time talking about OSU here

In this instance it isn't hijacking a Zips-related thread with osu talk. It's under the "World of College Football" thread. So it is fine.

[Let'sGoZips94]

36 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

In this instance it isn't hijacking a Zips-related thread with osu talk. It's under the "World of College Football" thread. So it is fine.

 

Here's a little Zips-related nugget.

 

As if losing 4 straight to Michigan (especially this year's squad) isn't bad enough, Ryan Day has also trailed in all of his games vs Akron.

[GP1]

As many of you know, I have a relative in central Ohio well connected to the local high school football world and has ins at OSU. The rumor is Day wants out of Columbus and OSU wants him out just as bad. He badly wants to go back to the NF and to get out of the nonsense that has become college football. 

 

As it relates to college football, people are asking why didn't he do anything about the post game brawl. The answer is college football players are completely out of control and nobody would listen to him.  If guys at Alabama stopped listening to Saban, Day doesn't stand a chance. Players are so out of control that later in the day Saturday, players still were planting flags and fighting about it. The transfer portal has made it such that you don't have to accept discipline from coaches. 

[Let'sGoZips94]

18 minutes ago, GP1 said:

As many of you know, I have a relative in central Ohio well connected to the local high school football world and has ins at OSU. The rumor is Day wants out of Columbus and OSU wants him out just as bad. He badly wants to go back to the NF and to get out of the nonsense that has become college football. 

 

As it relates to college football, people are asking why didn't he do anything about the post game brawl. The answer is college football players are completely out of control and nobody would listen to him.  If guys at Alabama stopped listening to Saban, Day doesn't stand a chance. Players are so out of control that later in the day Saturday, players still were planting flags and fighting about it. The transfer portal has made it such that you don't have to accept discipline from coaches. 

 

That's a BS excuse for Ryan Day's lack of action in the postgame. He literally was on camera asking someone what happened. Then he defended his team's actions in the press conference.

 

Sark didn't have a problem controlling his team, and Sark's team won their rivalry game. Ryan Day is softer than Charmin Ultra Soft and his team resembles that. 

 

I don't doubt Ryan Day wants to get to the NFL, but I also can't imagine there is too much respectable NFL interest in a guy whose 2nd half game plan had 0 targets to Jeremiah Smith. Before he leaves CBus, he needs to pen an apology letter to Kyle McCord, too. 

 

I'm sure Lou Holtz would like a word with him, too. 

[kreed5120]

2 hours ago, zippy5 said:

We spend too much time talking about OSU here

 

This is my take away from all this discussion as well.

[UA1996MAENG]

1 hour ago, GP1 said:

As many of you know, I have a relative in central Ohio well connected to the local high school football world and has ins at OSU. The rumor is Day wants out of Columbus and OSU wants him out just as bad. He badly wants to go back to the NF and to get out of the nonsense that has become college football. 

 

As it relates to college football, people are asking why didn't he do anything about the post game brawl. The answer is college football players are completely out of control and nobody would listen to him.  If guys at Alabama stopped listening to Saban, Day doesn't stand a chance. Players are so out of control that later in the day Saturday, players still were planting flags and fighting about it. The transfer portal has made it such that you don't have to accept discipline from coaches. 

Ryan Day's mental breakdown as witnessed by the increasing size of the bags under his eyes.  He looks like a guy barely hanging on to sanity. 

[UA1996MAENG]

48 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

That's a BS excuse for Ryan Day's lack of action in the postgame. He literally was on camera asking someone what happened. Then he defended his team's actions in the press conference.

 

Sark didn't have a problem controlling his team, and Sark's team won their rivalry game. Ryan Day is softer than Charmin Ultra Soft and his team resembles that. 

 

I don't doubt Ryan Day wants to get to the NFL, but I also can't imagine there is too much respectable NFL interest in a guy whose 2nd half game plan had 0 targets to Jeremiah Smith. Before he leaves CBus, he needs to pen an apology letter to Kyle McCord, too. 

 

I'm sure Lou Holtz would like a word with him, too. 

My disgust with college football in general and OSU in particular, can be seen in the whole Kyle McCord situation. The OSU fan arrogance/entitlement is off the charts.  McCord committed the "unforgivable" sin of not being perfect.  The kid was a good QB for OSU.  He did very well at Syracuse this year and still had a few bad games (5 INTs in one game bad). Then the OSU fans welcomed Will Howard as the savior (though his stats at Kansas State were pretty much what McCord did in 2023); now he's a bum for not "meeting expectations." Maybe I'm just picking this up from the media around me in central Ohio, but it seems like Day and many others made McCord the scapegoat and then in 2024 faced the same dilema - OSU isn't perfect. Blaming it on one kid is disgraceful. CFB on that level is just too mercenary for my taste.

[zippy5]

3 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

In this instance it isn't hijacking a Zips-related thread with osu talk. It's under the "World of College Football" thread. So it is fine.

Oh yeah. Not playing thread police, just pointing out the borderline obsession by some

[GP1]

4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

 

That's a BS excuse for Ryan Day's lack of action in the postgame. He literally was on camera asking someone what happened. Then he defended his team's actions in the press conference.

 

Sark didn't have a problem controlling his team, and Sark's team won their rivalry game. Ryan Day is softer than Charmin Ultra Soft and his team resembles that. 

 

I don't doubt Ryan Day wants to get to the NFL, but I also can't imagine there is too much respectable NFL interest in a guy whose 2nd half game plan had 0 targets to Jeremiah Smith. Before he leaves CBus, he needs to pen an apology letter to Kyle McCord, too. 

 

I'm sure Lou Holtz would like a word with him, too. 

Is Lou Holtz still alive?

[GP1]

3 hours ago, UA1996MAENG said:

My disgust with college football in general and OSU in particular, can be seen in the whole Kyle McCord situation. The OSU fan arrogance/entitlement is off the charts.  McCord committed the "unforgivable" sin of not being perfect.  The kid was a good QB for OSU.  He did very well at Syracuse this year and still had a few bad games (5 INTs in one game bad). Then the OSU fans welcomed Will Howard as the savior (though his stats at Kansas State were pretty much what McCord did in 2023); now he's a bum for not "meeting expectations." Maybe I'm just picking this up from the media around me in central Ohio, but it seems like Day and many others made McCord the scapegoat and then in 2024 faced the same dilema - OSU isn't perfect. Blaming it on one kid is disgraceful. CFB on that level is just too mercenary for my taste.

I love the McCord story. He is an easy coast guy who didn't like living in Columbus. Not every school is for everyone so he left. Next stop is the NFL. 

[zip-O-matic]

21 hours ago, akzipper said:

 

Seeing OSU gear everywhere is usually annoying. But on Saturday, the fact that all of those people were miserable makes me happy. Especially since 99% of them didn't attend that school and are just frontrunners. 

 

People joke about the 99%, but it's not too far from the truth.  I read a breakdown that referenced a study that showed they had the largest fanbase in the nation at 11.25M.  They have 600K living alumni.  Even if every single alum was a devoted football fan, they'd only be slightly over 5% of the fanbase.  In reality, I'd bet that a third of their alums don't care about sports/football and another third take a passing, casual interest in it leaving only 200K that are active, passionate fans.  That works out to 98.2% of their fanbase are non-alums.

[UA1996MAENG]

10 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Is Lou Holtz still alive?

Still alive

[Let'sGoZips94]

27 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Is Lou Holtz still alive?

 

Still alive and lives rent free in Ryan Day's head. 

[Blue & Gold]

 

[catdaddyp]

2 hours ago, Blue & Gold said:

 

We won 4 games and we’re already losing guys like Moore and James, who would likely have been some of the best at their respective positions next year. I figured we wouldn’t be able to keep them all 4 years, but I hoped we could at least get one more season from them. I also can’t blame the players as OT and DT are highly coveted positions in the portal.

 

Also goes to show why it’s important to have a coaching staff with plenty of connections and can identify portal talent. In our case, able to identify talent and bring said talent in with no NIL resources. Talk about a challenge.