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Since we’ve hit a slow period and the majority of roster turnover is complete, I thought I’d take a look at where things stand going into the summer and fall. Hopefully, this topic will give the board a conversation topic over the coming months. Under 100 days until kickoff….


QB

Redshirt senior DJ Irons will be QB1 as long as he is healthy. Irons was voted 3rd Team All-MAC in 2022 and landed on Athlon’s Preseason 2023 All-MAC 4th team. Those recognitions came despite missing two full games and parts of a few others. Coach Moorhead gave DJI high praise by saying Irons “played as well as any first year quarterback in his system.” 

Unlike last year, there is now multiple talented quarterbacks behind QB1. Former Albany transfer Jeff Undercuffler had a solid showing in the spring game and looks ready to lead the offense if needed. He will likely be pushed by incoming Virginia Tech transfer Tahj Bullock. Bullock brings a different skillset to the offense as he has a big frame and is a powerful runner for a quarterback. Bullock is not as refined of a passer as Irons or Undercuffler and still needs to learn the system. That being said, his potential cannot be ignored.

Redshirt freshman Dijon Jennings and true freshman Steele Wasel had their moments in the spring game and gave reason for future excitement.

 

RB

Florida transfer Lorenzo Lingard may be the playmaker the run game was missing last year. Despite not breaking any long runs in the spring game, his ability was noticeable. Athlon recognized his potential and listed Lingard as Preseason All-MAC 3rd team despite yet playing a down. Coach Moorhead also likes to use his running backs in the passing game and Lingard has the speed, power, and vision to do damage in the open field.

Behind Lingard there are several options. Incoming Arizona transfer Drake Anderson has proven success against a handful of P5 defenses and fits this offense. Charles Kellom is a redshirt freshman biding time before his opportunity arises. Junior Blake Hester will mostly be utilized on special teams, but can contribute out of the backfield. Former Kansas State transfer CJ Price has the capacity to be a load coming downhill (when he’s not hit immediately on the handoff), but will miss substantial time due to injury.

 

WR

Wide receiver is where the strength of the offense lies. What percentage of credit should go to the play calls creating so much stress on the defense versus attributed to the players themselves can be debated. Regardless, there is a ton of talent in this group.

Former LSU transfer Alex Adams is the headliner out of the slot and may be the most explosive player in the MAC. He is an easy All-MAC 1st teamer no matter who is voting. Sophomore Bobby Golden will split snaps with Adams and has already demonstrated he can be a difficult cover from the spring game.

Former Penn State transfer Daniel George was oddly left off an All-MAC team last season, but was added to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd Team and looks ready to have a monster year. Former JUCO Caleb Anderson will split snaps with George and managed to get open several times in the spring game. However, the young QBs missed him when those opportunities arose.

Redshirt sophomore Myles Walker made a case to takeover SJL’s role during the spring game. He may not have been the best receiver on the field, but he caught the ball when it came his way. Redshirt sophomore Jasaiah Gathings and incoming Grambling transfer Phaizon Wilson will toss their name into the competition to see who can claim the starting spot.

The question marks are converted running back Anthony Williams and the incoming freshmen. There is so much talent here, yet only so many snaps to go around.

 

TE

Former West Virginia transfer TJ Banks is the unquestioned starter. He split snaps about 50/50 last year and should collect a heavier amount in 2023. Banks has proven to be a solid blocker and also a reliable target in the passing game. Athlon named Banks to their Preseason All-MAC 3rd team.

The backup spot is wide open. Incoming Arizona State transfer Jacob Newell will have a chance to claim playing time if he can beat out redshirt junior Nik Ognenovic. Former Alabama transfer Caden Clark is unfortunately injured and incoming freshman Conner Cravaack did not enroll early.

 

OL

The offensive line should be improved. Junior right tackle Nate Williams has been named to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd team and is considered the emotional leader of the OL. If redshirt freshmen Tyhler Williams and Keylen Davis are ready to start (as seems to be the case from the spring game) they will give the OL some athleticism that was missing last year. Couple their insertions with another year of development from the players already in the system and it makes sense that the OL will perform at a higher level. However, a number of combinations might be fielded before a final five is determined. The most likely starters (from left to right) to begin the season may be Chambers, Kilbane, T. Williams, K. Davis, N. Williams. Maryland transfer Keon Kindred is talented and will probably push for a starting position. South Florida transfer Joshua Blanchard could make a difference if healthy (he dealt with multiple injuries during his time at USF). Transfers Ben Frank and Andrew George will provide more size and competitive depth. The freshmen certainly have athleticism and potential, but should not be expected to provide significant contributions right out the gate.

 

DL

The defensive line has seen as much of an overhaul as any other position since coach Tibesar took the reins as DC. The only two DL from the previous regime that are expected to contribute significantly are seniors Julian Richardson and (former JUCO) Ryan Johnson. Coach “DeBo” landed two portal transfers (all-conference at a lower level) and three freshmen during this cycle. Coach Wart finished the class with another portal transfer and four JUCOs.

DT

Despite currently flying under the radar, Tennessee State transfer Terray Jones seems like the real deal and probably has what it takes to make an All-MAC team. A blend of returning and new faces will join him on the interior. Redshirt seniors Devon Robinson and (former JUCO) Kyle Thomas will attempt to end their careers on a high note, while redshirt freshman Kiawan Murphy will compete for a larger role. Incoming New Mexico State transfer Lama Lavea provides another strong option up front and JUCO Tyler Carter may surprise. Freshman Marcus Moore will be developed and likely redshirt. Holt and Harper moving on hurts, but this group has the potential to be substantially better than 2022’s lot.

DE

There are a number of question marks with this position. Even though the athleticism and talent level has been increased, will the production follow? No one stood out during the spring game in the pass rush department. However, redshirt senior transfer Ahmad Rabah was not 100% healthy, Julian Richardson did not play, and Bruno Dall is a freshman with a high upside. JUCOs CJ Nunnally, Antonio Smith, and LaJoshua Jackson (assuming he is truly a DE and not DT) will have the opportunity to claim playing time. Johnson, Rabah, and Richardson are currently in line to start, but they need to show significant growth from the spring. Expecting any of the freshman to play major roles is probably not realistic.

 

LB

This position has the potential to be one of the best in the MAC as the linebackers have become a collection of explosive and physical players. The LBs flowed quickly to the ball in the spring game and had very few missed tackles. All-MAC 1st teamer Bubba Arslanian returns for his final season and will, at least initially, be flanked by sophomore Bryan McCoy. Returning juniors and former JUCOs Antavious Fish and Andrew Behm look more comfortable, while true sophomore Jaharon Griffin will have a chance to make an impact on more than just special teams. They will be joined by JUCO tackling machine Gage Summers and talented Illinois transfer Shammond Cooper. Freshman Melvin Spriggs will likely redshirt.

 

CB

Considering the situation, Coach Bell probably got about as much as he could out of the cornerbacks last season. Now fast forward a year where the depth and talent level has been increased. Junior Tyson Durant will do his best to hold down a starting spot and former Memphis transfer Devonte Golden-Nelson looks ready to live up to his potential. They will be pushed by South Carolina transfer Joey Hunter, Pittsburgh transfer Judson Tallandier, and JUCO Silas Proby. Returners Rishad Hence and former JUCO Cam Threatt will attempt to work into the rotation as well. Although the issues have seemingly been addressed, the incoming freshmen will also have a chance to compete for playing time.

 

NB

Redshirt sophomore Darrian Lewis was one of the biggest surprises in 2022. He was physical and may have been the best blitzer on the team. While there is some crossover to this position, it seems Lewis will be challenged by Purdue transfer Terence Thomas. Thomas is extremely athletic and kept making his presence felt at the spring game.

 

S

Safety play went from inconsistent early in 2022 to some of the best in the MAC by the end of the season. Expect the physicality level to pick up where it left off with Athlon Preseason All-MAC 4th teamer (former Duke transfer) Nate Thompson leading the way. He will be joined by former West Virginia transfer KJ Martin who may be ready to push for All-MAC status himself. Former Eastern Kentucky transfer Jaden Woods forced his way into the rotation as the top backup. Out of the younger returning players, redshirt sophomore DiMarco Johnson may be ready to contribute in 2023. The incoming freshmen are talented and built in the same vein as the current starters, but significant playing time will likely be hard to come by.

 

ST

Blake Hester is a core special teams player and was recognized as a kick returner by Athlon, landing on the preseason All-MAC 3rd team. 

 

The kicking game started off slowly in the spring game, but picked up steam as the event wore on. Sophomore kicker Noah Perez connected well on the majority of his attempts, while freshmen Owen Wiley and Joey Castle showed promise. The staff also brought in JUCO scholarship kicker/punter Dante Jackson. 

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59 minutes ago, catdaddyp said:

Since we’ve hit a slow period and the majority of roster turnover is complete, I thought I’d take a look at where things stand going into the summer and fall. Hopefully, this topic will give the board a conversation topic over the coming months. Under 100 days until kickoff….


QB

Redshirt senior DJ Irons will be QB1 as long as he is healthy. Irons was voted 3rd Team All-MAC in 2022 and landed on Athlon’s Preseason 2023 All-MAC 4th team. Those recognitions came despite missing two full games and parts of a few others. Coach Moorhead gave DJI high praise by saying Irons “played as well as any first year quarterback in his system.” 

Unlike last year, there is now multiple talented quarterbacks behind QB1. Former Albany transfer Jeff Undercuffler had a solid showing in the spring game and looks ready to lead the offense if needed. He will likely be pushed by incoming Virginia Tech transfer Tahj Bullock. Bullock brings a different skillset to the offense as he has a big frame and is a powerful runner for a quarterback. Bullock is not as refined of a passer as Irons or Undercuffler and still needs to learn the system. That being said, his potential cannot be ignored.

Redshirt freshman Dijon Jennings and true freshman Steele Wasel had their moments in the spring game and gave reason for future excitement.

 

RB

Florida transfer Lorenzo Lingard may be the playmaker the run game was missing last year. Despite not breaking any long runs in the spring game, his ability was noticeable. Athlon recognized his potential and listed Lingard as Preseason All-MAC 3rd team despite yet playing a down. Coach Moorhead also likes to use his running backs in the passing game and Lingard has the speed, power, and vision to do damage in the open field.

Behind Lingard there are several options. Incoming Arizona transfer Drake Anderson has proven success against a handful of P5 defenses and fits this offense. Charles Kellom is a redshirt freshman biding time before his opportunity arises. Junior Blake Hester will mostly be utilized on special teams, but can contribute out of the backfield. Former Kansas State transfer CJ Price has the capacity to be a load coming downhill (when he’s not hit immediately on the handoff), but will miss substantial time due to injury.

 

WR

Wide receiver is where the strength of the offense lies. What percentage of credit should go to the play calls creating so much stress on the defense versus attributed to the players themselves can be debated. Regardless, there is a ton of talent in this group.

Former LSU transfer Alex Adams is the headliner out of the slot and may be the most explosive player in the MAC. He is an easy All-MAC 1st teamer no matter who is voting. Sophomore Bobby Golden will split snaps with Adams and has already demonstrated he can be a difficult cover from the spring game.

Former Penn State transfer Daniel George was oddly left off an All-MAC team last season, but was added to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd Team and looks ready to have a monster year. Former JUCO Caleb Anderson will split snaps with George and managed to get open several times in the spring game. However, the young QBs missed him when those opportunities arose.

Redshirt sophomore Myles Walker made a case to takeover SJL’s role during the spring game. He may not have been the best receiver on the field, but he caught the ball when it came his way. Redshirt sophomore Jasaiah Gathings and incoming Grambling transfer Phaizon Wilson will toss their name into the competition to see who can claim the starting spot.

The question marks are converted running back Anthony Williams and the incoming freshmen. There is so much talent here, yet only so many snaps to go around.

 

TE

Former West Virginia transfer TJ Banks is the unquestioned starter. He split snaps about 50/50 last year and should collect a heavier amount in 2023. Banks has proven to be a solid blocker and also a reliable target in the passing game. Athlon named Banks to their Preseason All-MAC 3rd team.

The backup spot is wide open. Incoming Arizona State transfer Jacob Newell will have a chance to claim playing time if he can beat out redshirt junior Nik Ognenovic. Former Alabama transfer Caden Clark is unfortunately injured and incoming freshman Conner Cravaack did not enroll early.

 

OL

The offensive line should be improved. Junior right tackle Nate Williams has been named to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd team and is considered the emotional leader of the OL. If redshirt freshmen Tyhler Williams and Keylen Davis are ready to start (as seems to be the case from the spring game) they will give the OL some athleticism that was missing last year. Couple their insertions with another year of development from the players already in the system and it makes sense that the OL will perform at a higher level. However, a number of combinations might be fielded before a final five is determined. The most likely starters (from left to right) to begin the season may be Chambers, Kilbane, T. Williams, K. Davis, N. Williams. Maryland transfer Keon Kindred is talented and will probably push for a starting position. South Florida transfer Joshua Blanchard could make a difference if healthy (he dealt with multiple injuries during his time at USF). Transfers Ben Frank and Andrew George will provide more size and competitive depth. The freshmen certainly have athleticism and potential, but should not be expected to provide significant contributions right out the gate.

 

DL

The defensive line has seen as much of an overhaul as any other position since coach Tibesar took the reins as DC. The only two DL from the previous regime that are expected to contribute significantly are seniors Julian Richardson and (former JUCO) Ryan Johnson. Coach “DeBo” landed two portal transfers (all-conference at a lower level) and three freshmen during this cycle. Coach Wart finished the class with another portal transfer and four JUCOs.

DT

Despite currently flying under the radar, Tennessee State transfer Terray Jones seems like the real deal and probably has what it takes to make an All-MAC team. A blend of returning and new faces will join him on the interior. Redshirt seniors Devon Robinson and (former JUCO) Kyle Thomas will attempt to end their careers on a high note, while redshirt freshman Kiawan Murphy will compete for a larger role. Incoming New Mexico State transfer Lama Lavea provides another strong option up front and JUCO Tyler Carter may surprise. Freshman Marcus Moore will be developed and likely redshirt. Holt and Harper moving on hurts, but this group has the potential to be substantially better than 2022’s lot.

DE

There are a number of question marks with this position. Even though the athleticism and talent level has been increased, will the production follow? No one stood out during the spring game in the pass rush department. However, redshirt senior transfer Ahmad Rabah was not 100% healthy, Julian Richardson did not play, and Bruno Dall is a freshman with a high upside. JUCOs CJ Nunnally, Antonio Smith, and LaJoshua Jackson (assuming he is truly a DE and not DT) will have the opportunity to claim playing time. Johnson, Rabah, and Richardson are currently in line to start, but they need to show significant growth from the spring. Expecting any of the freshman to play major roles is probably not realistic.

 

LB

This position has the potential to be one of the best in the MAC as the linebackers have become a collection of explosive and physical players. The LBs flowed quickly to the ball in the spring game and had very few missed tackles. All-MAC 1st teamer Bubba Arslanian returns for his final season and will, at least initially, be flanked by sophomore Bryan McCoy. Returning juniors and former JUCOs Antavious Fish and Andrew Behm look more comfortable, while true sophomore Jaharon Griffin will have a chance to make an impact on more than just special teams. They will be joined by JUCO tackling machine Gage Summers and talented Illinois transfer Shammond Cooper. Freshman Melvin Spriggs will likely redshirt.

 

CB

Considering the situation, Coach Bell probably got about as much as he could out of the cornerbacks last season. Now fast forward a year where the depth and talent level has been increased. Junior Tyson Durant will do his best to hold down a starting spot and former Memphis transfer Devonte Golden-Nelson looks ready to live up to his potential. They will be pushed by South Carolina transfer Joey Hunter, Pittsburgh transfer Judson Tallandier, and JUCO Silas Proby. Returners Rishad Hence and former JUCO Cam Threatt will attempt to work into the rotation as well. Although the issues have seemingly been addressed, the incoming freshmen will also have a chance to compete for playing time.

 

NB

Redshirt sophomore Darrian Lewis was one of the biggest surprises in 2022. He was physical and may have been the best blitzer on the team. While there is some crossover to this position, it seems Lewis will be challenged by Purdue transfer Terence Thomas. Thomas is extremely athletic and kept making his presence felt at the spring game.

 

S

Safety play went from inconsistent early in 2022 to some of the best in the MAC by the end of the season. Expect the physicality level to pick up where it left off with Athlon Preseason All-MAC 4th teamer (former Duke transfer) Nate Thompson leading the way. He will be joined by former West Virginia transfer KJ Martin who may be ready to push for All-MAC status himself. Former Eastern Kentucky transfer Jaden Woods forced his way into the rotation as the top backup. Out of the younger returning players, redshirt sophomore DiMarco Johnson may be ready to contribute in 2023. The incoming freshmen are talented and built in the same vein as the current starters, but significant playing time will likely be hard to come by.

 

ST

Blake Hester is a core special teams player and was recognized as a kick returner by Athlon, landing on the preseason All-MAC 3rd team. 

 

The kicking game started off slowly in the spring game, but picked up steam as the event wore on. Sophomore kicker Noah Perez connected well on the majority of his attempts, while freshmen Owen Wiley and Joey Castle showed promise. The staff also brought in JUCO scholarship kicker/punter Dante Jackson. 

 

Reading your update one would be tempted to predict, at least, a Zip appearance in the MACC.

I agree with you that this is a slow news period for Zip football fans.

That's one reason I visited 247 where I observed that they have this year's Zip recruits ranked just ahead of both BGSU and Kent.

Kind of sobering.

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1 hour ago, Zipmeister said:

 

Reading your update one would be tempted to predict, at least, a Zip appearance in the MACC.

I agree with you that this is a slow news period for Zip football fans.

That's one reason I visited 247 where I observed that they have this year's Zip recruits ranked just ahead of both BGSU and Kent.

Kind of sobering.

MACC isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but I doubt we are at that point. We aren’t elite on either side of line of scrimmage (OL & DL). Certainly headed in the right direction, but not there yet. We’ll probably drop a game or two we shouldn’t as the team learns how to win consistently. I think overall we rival any other MAC team in terms of overall talent in JoeMo’s second year. Most pundits consider Ohio, EMU, and Toledo as the top dogs this season.

 

247 gives easy access, which I appreciate, but some omissions immediately jump out.
1 - Ahmad Rabah is a transfer, not an HS prospect, and doesn’t have a rating. He’s a 3 star transfer on Rivals.
2 - Transfer Terence Thomas is not listed.
3 - Transfer Judah Tallandier is not listed.
4 - Transfer Terray Jones is not listed and is a 3 star on Rivals.
5 - Transfer Ben Frank is not listed.
6 - Joshua Bowen and Maurice Long are no longer in this class.
7 - David Jester and Clarence Nunnally are signed.
8 - Paul Davis is a 3 star on Rivals and is not listed.
9 - Delvin Morris is not listed.

10 - Gage Summers is not listed.

11 - Antonio Smith is not listed.

12 - LaJoshua Jackson is not listed.

13 - Dante Jackson is not listed. 
14 - Transfer Lama Lavea is not listed.

15 - Tyler Carter is not listed.

16 - Transfer Drake Anderson is not listed.

17 - Transfer Keon Kindred is a 3 star on Rivals and is not listed.

18 - Transfer Joshua Blanchard is not listed.

19 - Transfer Shammond Cooper is not listed.

20 - Transfer Phaizon Wilson is not listed.

21 - Transfer Jacob Newell is not listed.

22 - Transfer AJ George is not listed.

 

Im probably missing some more, but that’s certainly enough for now. Needless to say, the 247 rankings aren’t quite accurate.

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13 hours ago, catdaddyp said:

Since we’ve hit a slow period and the majority of roster turnover is complete, I thought I’d take a look at where things stand going into the summer and fall. Hopefully, this topic will give the board a conversation topic over the coming months. Under 100 days until kickoff….


QB

Redshirt senior DJ Irons will be QB1 as long as he is healthy. Irons was voted 3rd Team All-MAC in 2022 and landed on Athlon’s Preseason 2023 All-MAC 4th team. Those recognitions came despite missing two full games and parts of a few others. Coach Moorhead gave DJI high praise by saying Irons “played as well as any first year quarterback in his system.” 

Unlike last year, there is now multiple talented quarterbacks behind QB1. Former Albany transfer Jeff Undercuffler had a solid showing in the spring game and looks ready to lead the offense if needed. He will likely be pushed by incoming Virginia Tech transfer Tahj Bullock. Bullock brings a different skillset to the offense as he has a big frame and is a powerful runner for a quarterback. Bullock is not as refined of a passer as Irons or Undercuffler and still needs to learn the system. That being said, his potential cannot be ignored.

Redshirt freshman Dijon Jennings and true freshman Steele Wasel had their moments in the spring game and gave reason for future excitement.

 

RB

Florida transfer Lorenzo Lingard may be the playmaker the run game was missing last year. Despite not breaking any long runs in the spring game, his ability was noticeable. Athlon recognized his potential and listed Lingard as Preseason All-MAC 3rd team despite yet playing a down. Coach Moorhead also likes to use his running backs in the passing game and Lingard has the speed, power, and vision to do damage in the open field.

Behind Lingard there are several options. Incoming Arizona transfer Drake Anderson has proven success against a handful of P5 defenses and fits this offense. Charles Kellom is a redshirt freshman biding time before his opportunity arises. Junior Blake Hester will mostly be utilized on special teams, but can contribute out of the backfield. Former Kansas State transfer CJ Price has the capacity to be a load coming downhill (when he’s not hit immediately on the handoff), but will miss substantial time due to injury.

 

WR

Wide receiver is where the strength of the offense lies. What percentage of credit should go to the play calls creating so much stress on the defense versus attributed to the players themselves can be debated. Regardless, there is a ton of talent in this group.

Former LSU transfer Alex Adams is the headliner out of the slot and may be the most explosive player in the MAC. He is an easy All-MAC 1st teamer no matter who is voting. Sophomore Bobby Golden will split snaps with Adams and has already demonstrated he can be a difficult cover from the spring game.

Former Penn State transfer Daniel George was oddly left off an All-MAC team last season, but was added to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd Team and looks ready to have a monster year. Former JUCO Caleb Anderson will split snaps with George and managed to get open several times in the spring game. However, the young QBs missed him when those opportunities arose.

Redshirt sophomore Myles Walker made a case to takeover SJL’s role during the spring game. He may not have been the best receiver on the field, but he caught the ball when it came his way. Redshirt sophomore Jasaiah Gathings and incoming Grambling transfer Phaizon Wilson will toss their name into the competition to see who can claim the starting spot.

The question marks are converted running back Anthony Williams and the incoming freshmen. There is so much talent here, yet only so many snaps to go around.

 

TE

Former West Virginia transfer TJ Banks is the unquestioned starter. He split snaps about 50/50 last year and should collect a heavier amount in 2023. Banks has proven to be a solid blocker and also a reliable target in the passing game. Athlon named Banks to their Preseason All-MAC 3rd team.

The backup spot is wide open. Incoming Arizona State transfer Jacob Newell will have a chance to claim playing time if he can beat out redshirt junior Nik Ognenovic. Former Alabama transfer Caden Clark is unfortunately injured and incoming freshman Conner Cravaack did not enroll early.

 

OL

The offensive line should be improved. Junior right tackle Nate Williams has been named to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd team and is considered the emotional leader of the OL. If redshirt freshmen Tyhler Williams and Keylen Davis are ready to start (as seems to be the case from the spring game) they will give the OL some athleticism that was missing last year. Couple their insertions with another year of development from the players already in the system and it makes sense that the OL will perform at a higher level. However, a number of combinations might be fielded before a final five is determined. The most likely starters (from left to right) to begin the season may be Chambers, Kilbane, T. Williams, K. Davis, N. Williams. Maryland transfer Keon Kindred is talented and will probably push for a starting position. South Florida transfer Joshua Blanchard could make a difference if healthy (he dealt with multiple injuries during his time at USF). Transfers Ben Frank and Andrew George will provide more size and competitive depth. The freshmen certainly have athleticism and potential, but should not be expected to provide significant contributions right out the gate.

 

DL

The defensive line has seen as much of an overhaul as any other position since coach Tibesar took the reins as DC. The only two DL from the previous regime that are expected to contribute significantly are seniors Julian Richardson and (former JUCO) Ryan Johnson. Coach “DeBo” landed two portal transfers (all-conference at a lower level) and three freshmen during this cycle. Coach Wart finished the class with another portal transfer and four JUCOs.

DT

Despite currently flying under the radar, Tennessee State transfer Terray Jones seems like the real deal and probably has what it takes to make an All-MAC team. A blend of returning and new faces will join him on the interior. Redshirt seniors Devon Robinson and (former JUCO) Kyle Thomas will attempt to end their careers on a high note, while redshirt freshman Kiawan Murphy will compete for a larger role. Incoming New Mexico State transfer Lama Lavea provides another strong option up front and JUCO Tyler Carter may surprise. Freshman Marcus Moore will be developed and likely redshirt. Holt and Harper moving on hurts, but this group has the potential to be substantially better than 2022’s lot.

DE

There are a number of question marks with this position. Even though the athleticism and talent level has been increased, will the production follow? No one stood out during the spring game in the pass rush department. However, redshirt senior transfer Ahmad Rabah was not 100% healthy, Julian Richardson did not play, and Bruno Dall is a freshman with a high upside. JUCOs CJ Nunnally, Antonio Smith, and LaJoshua Jackson (assuming he is truly a DE and not DT) will have the opportunity to claim playing time. Johnson, Rabah, and Richardson are currently in line to start, but they need to show significant growth from the spring. Expecting any of the freshman to play major roles is probably not realistic.

 

LB

This position has the potential to be one of the best in the MAC as the linebackers have become a collection of explosive and physical players. The LBs flowed quickly to the ball in the spring game and had very few missed tackles. All-MAC 1st teamer Bubba Arslanian returns for his final season and will, at least initially, be flanked by sophomore Bryan McCoy. Returning juniors and former JUCOs Antavious Fish and Andrew Behm look more comfortable, while true sophomore Jaharon Griffin will have a chance to make an impact on more than just special teams. They will be joined by JUCO tackling machine Gage Summers and talented Illinois transfer Shammond Cooper. Freshman Melvin Spriggs will likely redshirt.

 

CB

Considering the situation, Coach Bell probably got about as much as he could out of the cornerbacks last season. Now fast forward a year where the depth and talent level has been increased. Junior Tyson Durant will do his best to hold down a starting spot and former Memphis transfer Devonte Golden-Nelson looks ready to live up to his potential. They will be pushed by South Carolina transfer Joey Hunter, Pittsburgh transfer Judson Tallandier, and JUCO Silas Proby. Returners Rishad Hence and former JUCO Cam Threatt will attempt to work into the rotation as well. Although the issues have seemingly been addressed, the incoming freshmen will also have a chance to compete for playing time.

 

NB

Redshirt sophomore Darrian Lewis was one of the biggest surprises in 2022. He was physical and may have been the best blitzer on the team. While there is some crossover to this position, it seems Lewis will be challenged by Purdue transfer Terence Thomas. Thomas is extremely athletic and kept making his presence felt at the spring game.

 

S

Safety play went from inconsistent early in 2022 to some of the best in the MAC by the end of the season. Expect the physicality level to pick up where it left off with Athlon Preseason All-MAC 4th teamer (former Duke transfer) Nate Thompson leading the way. He will be joined by former West Virginia transfer KJ Martin who may be ready to push for All-MAC status himself. Former Eastern Kentucky transfer Jaden Woods forced his way into the rotation as the top backup. Out of the younger returning players, redshirt sophomore DiMarco Johnson may be ready to contribute in 2023. The incoming freshmen are talented and built in the same vein as the current starters, but significant playing time will likely be hard to come by.

 

ST

Blake Hester is a core special teams player and was recognized as a kick returner by Athlon, landing on the preseason All-MAC 3rd team. 

 

The kicking game started off slowly in the spring game, but picked up steam as the event wore on. Sophomore kicker Noah Perez connected well on the majority of his attempts, while freshmen Owen Wiley and Joey Castle showed promise. The staff also brought in JUCO scholarship kicker/punter Dante Jackson. 

If I felt anyone else beyond you took the job of evaluating MAC talent so seriously and with such incredible attention to detail, I’d reverse my stance on the relevance of star ratings given to MAC-level players. Great job, and awesome work!
 

Your post will definitely be my reference over the first few 2023 games as I try to figure out who’s who. 

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On 6/4/2023 at 11:34 AM, catdaddyp said:

MACC isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but I doubt we are at that point. We aren’t elite on either side of line of scrimmage (OL & DL). Certainly headed in the right direction, but not there yet. We’ll probably drop a game or two we shouldn’t as the team learns how to win consistently. I think overall we rival any other MAC team in terms of overall talent in JoeMo’s second year. Most pundits consider Ohio, EMU, and Toledo as the top dogs this season.

 

247 gives easy access, which I appreciate, but some omissions immediately jump out.
1 - Ahmad Rabah is a transfer, not an HS prospect, and doesn’t have a rating. He’s a 3 star transfer on Rivals.
2 - Transfer Terence Thomas is not listed.
3 - Transfer Judah Tallandier is not listed.
4 - Transfer Terray Jones is not listed and is a 3 star on Rivals.
5 - Transfer Ben Frank is not listed.
6 - Joshua Bowen and Maurice Long are no longer in this class.
7 - David Jester and Clarence Nunnally are signed.
8 - Paul Davis is a 3 star on Rivals and is not listed.
9 - Delvin Morris is not listed.

10 - Gage Summers is not listed.

11 - Antonio Smith is not listed.

12 - LaJoshua Jackson is not listed.

13 - Dante Jackson is not listed. 
14 - Transfer Lama Lavea is not listed.

15 - Tyler Carter is not listed.

16 - Transfer Drake Anderson is not listed.

17 - Transfer Keon Kindred is a 3 star on Rivals and is not listed.

18 - Transfer Joshua Blanchard is not listed.

19 - Transfer Shammond Cooper is not listed.

20 - Transfer Phaizon Wilson is not listed.

21 - Transfer Jacob Newell is not listed.

22 - Transfer AJ George is not listed.

 

Im probably missing some more, but that’s certainly enough for now. Needless to say, the 247 rankings aren’t quite accurate.

 

OMG, now I'm worried about how many guys 247 left off every other MAC team.

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On 6/4/2023 at 9:09 AM, catdaddyp said:

Since we’ve hit a slow period and the majority of roster turnover is complete, I thought I’d take a look at where things stand going into the summer and fall. Hopefully, this topic will give the board a conversation topic over the coming months. Under 100 days until kickoff….


QB

Redshirt senior DJ Irons will be QB1 as long as he is healthy. Irons was voted 3rd Team All-MAC in 2022 and landed on Athlon’s Preseason 2023 All-MAC 4th team. Those recognitions came despite missing two full games and parts of a few others. Coach Moorhead gave DJI high praise by saying Irons “played as well as any first year quarterback in his system.” 

Unlike last year, there is now multiple talented quarterbacks behind QB1. Former Albany transfer Jeff Undercuffler had a solid showing in the spring game and looks ready to lead the offense if needed. He will likely be pushed by incoming Virginia Tech transfer Tahj Bullock. Bullock brings a different skillset to the offense as he has a big frame and is a powerful runner for a quarterback. Bullock is not as refined of a passer as Irons or Undercuffler and still needs to learn the system. That being said, his potential cannot be ignored.

Redshirt freshman Dijon Jennings and true freshman Steele Wasel had their moments in the spring game and gave reason for future excitement.

 

RB

Florida transfer Lorenzo Lingard may be the playmaker the run game was missing last year. Despite not breaking any long runs in the spring game, his ability was noticeable. Athlon recognized his potential and listed Lingard as Preseason All-MAC 3rd team despite yet playing a down. Coach Moorhead also likes to use his running backs in the passing game and Lingard has the speed, power, and vision to do damage in the open field.

Behind Lingard there are several options. Incoming Arizona transfer Drake Anderson has proven success against a handful of P5 defenses and fits this offense. Charles Kellom is a redshirt freshman biding time before his opportunity arises. Junior Blake Hester will mostly be utilized on special teams, but can contribute out of the backfield. Former Kansas State transfer CJ Price has the capacity to be a load coming downhill (when he’s not hit immediately on the handoff), but will miss substantial time due to injury.

 

WR

Wide receiver is where the strength of the offense lies. What percentage of credit should go to the play calls creating so much stress on the defense versus attributed to the players themselves can be debated. Regardless, there is a ton of talent in this group.

Former LSU transfer Alex Adams is the headliner out of the slot and may be the most explosive player in the MAC. He is an easy All-MAC 1st teamer no matter who is voting. Sophomore Bobby Golden will split snaps with Adams and has already demonstrated he can be a difficult cover from the spring game.

Former Penn State transfer Daniel George was oddly left off an All-MAC team last season, but was added to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd Team and looks ready to have a monster year. Former JUCO Caleb Anderson will split snaps with George and managed to get open several times in the spring game. However, the young QBs missed him when those opportunities arose.

Redshirt sophomore Myles Walker made a case to takeover SJL’s role during the spring game. He may not have been the best receiver on the field, but he caught the ball when it came his way. Redshirt sophomore Jasaiah Gathings and incoming Grambling transfer Phaizon Wilson will toss their name into the competition to see who can claim the starting spot.

The question marks are converted running back Anthony Williams and the incoming freshmen. There is so much talent here, yet only so many snaps to go around.

 

TE

Former West Virginia transfer TJ Banks is the unquestioned starter. He split snaps about 50/50 last year and should collect a heavier amount in 2023. Banks has proven to be a solid blocker and also a reliable target in the passing game. Athlon named Banks to their Preseason All-MAC 3rd team.

The backup spot is wide open. Incoming Arizona State transfer Jacob Newell will have a chance to claim playing time if he can beat out redshirt junior Nik Ognenovic. Former Alabama transfer Caden Clark is unfortunately injured and incoming freshman Conner Cravaack did not enroll early.

 

OL

The offensive line should be improved. Junior right tackle Nate Williams has been named to Athlon’s Preseason All-MAC 3rd team and is considered the emotional leader of the OL. If redshirt freshmen Tyhler Williams and Keylen Davis are ready to start (as seems to be the case from the spring game) they will give the OL some athleticism that was missing last year. Couple their insertions with another year of development from the players already in the system and it makes sense that the OL will perform at a higher level. However, a number of combinations might be fielded before a final five is determined. The most likely starters (from left to right) to begin the season may be Chambers, Kilbane, T. Williams, K. Davis, N. Williams. Maryland transfer Keon Kindred is talented and will probably push for a starting position. South Florida transfer Joshua Blanchard could make a difference if healthy (he dealt with multiple injuries during his time at USF). Transfers Ben Frank and Andrew George will provide more size and competitive depth. The freshmen certainly have athleticism and potential, but should not be expected to provide significant contributions right out the gate.

 

DL

The defensive line has seen as much of an overhaul as any other position since coach Tibesar took the reins as DC. The only two DL from the previous regime that are expected to contribute significantly are seniors Julian Richardson and (former JUCO) Ryan Johnson. Coach “DeBo” landed two portal transfers (all-conference at a lower level) and three freshmen during this cycle. Coach Wart finished the class with another portal transfer and four JUCOs.

DT

Despite currently flying under the radar, Tennessee State transfer Terray Jones seems like the real deal and probably has what it takes to make an All-MAC team. A blend of returning and new faces will join him on the interior. Redshirt seniors Devon Robinson and (former JUCO) Kyle Thomas will attempt to end their careers on a high note, while redshirt freshman Kiawan Murphy will compete for a larger role. Incoming New Mexico State transfer Lama Lavea provides another strong option up front and JUCO Tyler Carter may surprise. Freshman Marcus Moore will be developed and likely redshirt. Holt and Harper moving on hurts, but this group has the potential to be substantially better than 2022’s lot.

DE

There are a number of question marks with this position. Even though the athleticism and talent level has been increased, will the production follow? No one stood out during the spring game in the pass rush department. However, redshirt senior transfer Ahmad Rabah was not 100% healthy, Julian Richardson did not play, and Bruno Dall is a freshman with a high upside. JUCOs CJ Nunnally, Antonio Smith, and LaJoshua Jackson (assuming he is truly a DE and not DT) will have the opportunity to claim playing time. Johnson, Rabah, and Richardson are currently in line to start, but they need to show significant growth from the spring. Expecting any of the freshman to play major roles is probably not realistic.

 

LB

This position has the potential to be one of the best in the MAC as the linebackers have become a collection of explosive and physical players. The LBs flowed quickly to the ball in the spring game and had very few missed tackles. All-MAC 1st teamer Bubba Arslanian returns for his final season and will, at least initially, be flanked by sophomore Bryan McCoy. Returning juniors and former JUCOs Antavious Fish and Andrew Behm look more comfortable, while true sophomore Jaharon Griffin will have a chance to make an impact on more than just special teams. They will be joined by JUCO tackling machine Gage Summers and talented Illinois transfer Shammond Cooper. Freshman Melvin Spriggs will likely redshirt.

 

CB

Considering the situation, Coach Bell probably got about as much as he could out of the cornerbacks last season. Now fast forward a year where the depth and talent level has been increased. Junior Tyson Durant will do his best to hold down a starting spot and former Memphis transfer Devonte Golden-Nelson looks ready to live up to his potential. They will be pushed by South Carolina transfer Joey Hunter, Pittsburgh transfer Judson Tallandier, and JUCO Silas Proby. Returners Rishad Hence and former JUCO Cam Threatt will attempt to work into the rotation as well. Although the issues have seemingly been addressed, the incoming freshmen will also have a chance to compete for playing time.

 

NB

Redshirt sophomore Darrian Lewis was one of the biggest surprises in 2022. He was physical and may have been the best blitzer on the team. While there is some crossover to this position, it seems Lewis will be challenged by Purdue transfer Terence Thomas. Thomas is extremely athletic and kept making his presence felt at the spring game.

 

S

Safety play went from inconsistent early in 2022 to some of the best in the MAC by the end of the season. Expect the physicality level to pick up where it left off with Athlon Preseason All-MAC 4th teamer (former Duke transfer) Nate Thompson leading the way. He will be joined by former West Virginia transfer KJ Martin who may be ready to push for All-MAC status himself. Former Eastern Kentucky transfer Jaden Woods forced his way into the rotation as the top backup. Out of the younger returning players, redshirt sophomore DiMarco Johnson may be ready to contribute in 2023. The incoming freshmen are talented and built in the same vein as the current starters, but significant playing time will likely be hard to come by.

 

ST

Blake Hester is a core special teams player and was recognized as a kick returner by Athlon, landing on the preseason All-MAC 3rd team. 

 

The kicking game started off slowly in the spring game, but picked up steam as the event wore on. Sophomore kicker Noah Perez connected well on the majority of his attempts, while freshmen Owen Wiley and Joey Castle showed promise. The staff also brought in JUCO scholarship kicker/punter Dante Jackson. 

 

So this settles it. 12-0. 

 

See y'all in the Playoff. 

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Hopefully this link works. I thought this was a good listen and these guys seem to have a better handle on the MAC offseason than most I’ve heard/read. (Not posting this for betting advice.)

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17 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said:

Why did it seem like there was no question he'd be back?

 

It was either overoptimism on the part of Zip fans or the NCAA's penchant for awarding 7 years of playing time to other applicants.

I can't count the number of times I have seen a player listed as a 3rd year senior.

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7 hours ago, Zipmeister said:

 

It as either overoptimism on the part of Zip fans or the NCAA's penchant for awarding 7 years of playing time to other applicants.

I can't count the number of times I have seen a player listed as a 3rd year senior.

 

4 hours ago, ZippyRulz said:

 

Phil Steele thought he would be...

 

 

 

Do we know when the application for the 7th year was submitted? If he submitted it before spring ball and it took this long to review, only for them to deny it, that's Bush League crap from the NCAA. 

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When I was 25 I had a Masters Degree, a full time job and was one year away from being married. Eventually you have to put down childish things. I just hope he isn't the next guy clogging up traffic riding a bicycle down a crowded street. 

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