Moorhead 2024 make or break season to keep job?

[zippy-claws]

On 10/21/2024 at 12:24 PM, Slam_Hilliard22 said:

Next HC needs to be someone who's rebuilt a program with the level of resources and budget the Zips have, ideally at the FCS level, I'd also consider D2/D3

 

Yeah, take a look at how hiring a D3 coach who rebuilt a program has worked out for the Zip's Women's soccer team....

Edited October 22, 2024 by zippy-claws

[zippy5]

51 minutes ago, zippy-claws said:

 

Yeah, take a look at how hiring a D3 coach who rebuilt a program has worked out for the Zip's Women's soccer team....

You could look at Lance Leipold at Buffalo if you want to use anecdotal evidence

[72 Roo]

2 hours ago, zippy-claws said:

 

Yeah, take a look at how hiring a D3 coach who rebuilt a program has worked out for the Zip's Women's soccer team....

I don't have a strong feeling one way or the other on the women's program other than I want to see them win big like the men. However I do feel the coach deserves another season before judging her leadership.

[UA1996MAENG]

 

20 hours ago, zippy5 said:

You could look at Lance Leipold at Buffalo if you want to use anecdotal evidence

Or Curt Cignetti at Indiana. He started at Indiana University of Pennsylvania and Elon before getting a larger job at James Madison.

Edited October 23, 2024 by UA1996MAENG

[kreed5120]

Leipold inherited a program that made it to back-to-back national championships. I wouldn't exactly say he rebuilt anything. He did certainly improve on what had a solid foundation already.

 

I don't think there is any magical formula for guaranteeing success. Short of backing a Brinks truck up to Saban's house to tempt him to take the Akron job (sarcasm). Successful G5 coaches have come from all kinds of different backgrounds.

[exit322]

On 10/23/2024 at 2:25 PM, kreed5120 said:

Short of backing a Brinks truck up to Saban's house to tempt him to take the Akron job (sarcasm). 

He's a Kent guy, not trusting that

[Lee Adams]

On 10/23/2024 at 8:39 AM, UA1996MAENG said:

 

Or Curt Cignetti at Indiana. He started at Indiana University of Pennsylvania and Elon before getting a larger job at James Madison.

Speaking of IUP, I casually follow them because all my relatives are from Indiana, PA. A significant number of good players and coaches have come out of that area. Cignetti is only one. Getsy was there for a while and moved up. The head guy now is Paul Torterella. Has IUP a consistent contender in the PSAC which is a tough DII conference. He has been HC since 2017. He has a nice situation at IUP. But a guy like that might be willing to take a shot at a lower level DI program if presented with the opportunity.

Speaking of DII, a guy by the name of Brian Kelly did OK up in Michigan before moving on and up.

Whether Moorehead leaves voluntarily or otherwise, Akron has to finally look at someone who can bring some discipline and recruiting ability to the program.

Lets see what happens with the last few games.

[UA1996MAENG]

18 hours ago, exit322 said:

He's a Kent guy, not trusting that

Kent alumni and former Kent coaches have done pretty well in spite of KSU being at the bottom of CFB since around 1976: Don James, Saban, Pinkel, Lou Holtz, Glen Mason, Sean Lewis (The jury is still out on him overall, but he managed to do what nobody ever did at Kent since Don James - have mutiple winning seasons and bowl game bids). At this point, I'd hire Charles Manson is it meant UA would go 6-6.

[UA1996MAENG]

21 minutes ago, Lee Adams said:

Speaking of IUP, I casually follow them because all my relatives are from Indiana, PA. A significant number of good players and coaches have come out of that area. Cignetti is only one. Getsy was there for a while and moved up. The head guy now is Paul Torterella. Has IUP a consistent contender in the PSAC which is a tough DII conference. He has been HC since 2017. He has a nice situation at IUP. But a guy like that might be willing to take a shot at a lower level DI program if presented with the opportunity.

Speaking of DII, a guy by the name of Brian Kelly did OK up in Michigan before moving on and up.

Whether Moorehead leaves voluntarily or otherwise, Akron has to finally look at someone who can bring some discipline and recruiting ability to the program.

Lets see what happens with the last few games.

Looks like Torterella was at Akron for three years going back to the early 2000s?

[Lee Adams]

On 10/25/2024 at 11:30 AM, UA1996MAENG said:

Looks like Torterella was at Akron for three years going back to the early 2000s?

Ya saw that.

[LZIp]

We escaped the bottom 10!!

 

Also, two of our OOC opponents next year (UAB and Wyoming) are on there.  Lets start 3-1 next year...

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42078475/college-football-bottom-10-week-9-give-us-liberty

[catdaddyp]

4 minutes ago, LZIp said:

We escaped the bottom 10!!

 

Also, two of our OOC opponents next year (UAB and Wyoming) are on there.  Lets start 3-1 next year...

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42078475/college-football-bottom-10-week-9-give-us-liberty

We actually haven’t been on the list for several weeks. McGee saw us play live against South Carolina and took us off his bottom 10 a week or two after. 
 

I’m with you, 3-1 OOC seems very realistic next season. I guess if that comes to pass we’ll have to find someone else to fire…
 

 

[zipsrule]

43 minutes ago, LZIp said:

We escaped the bottom 10!!

 

Also, two of our OOC opponents next year (UAB and Wyoming) are on there.  Lets start 3-1 next year...

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/42078475/college-football-bottom-10-week-9-give-us-liberty

Unfortunately, we are still on the "Waiting List".  I'll be happier once we are gone from both.

[Lee Adams]

On 10/30/2024 at 4:29 PM, zipsrule said:

Unfortunately, we are still on the "Waiting List".  I'll be happier once we are gone from both.

Complicating the issue further is the news that the University is looking at general layoffs ,again, over the next year. Of course the President new that was coming before he fired Guthrie. If coaching changes are anticipated in the football program how do general budget cuts affect athletics?

[akrzips2012]

I’m all for reflecting this season. 4 wins is the best we have seen in a long time. Let’s give Moorhead another year to build a winning program in year 4 with new talent and growing some we have seen progress with. I suspect couple options. New AD comes in and fires him. Moorhead decides to leave on his own. He stays another year because UA spent too much time hiring new AD and misses on new coach hiring season in December. What you all think happens? 

[GP1]

It seems the new AD has the unenviable task of making cuts.

 

Joe stays because it's impossible to make cuts and engage in a contract buyout at the same time, while at the same time shelling out money for a recruiting firm to find a new coach. Oh, then there is the cost of relocating a new coach.

 

I would like to see Joe come back for one more season. If he fails after four seasons with a more favorable schedule, then it's time to part ways. 

 

There is nothing keeping Joe in Akron now. He could very well depart on his own. If he leaves and there is no AD in place...... I'd rather not think about that. 

[Captain Kangaroo]

On 10/18/2024 at 2:35 PM, dre22era said:

Only these 2 men can save us 

From 2021 

Run it back 
"Tim Tyrrell, the head coach at nearby Archbishop Hoban High, a powerhouse that has won five state championships in the past six years, also could get in the mix, according to colleague Zac Jackson, who has deep ties around Akron."

 

After Tyrrell’s 25 point loss to Avon, I’m guessing it’s Eddie George’s job for the taking?

[GP1]

3 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said:

After Tyrrell’s 25 point loss to Avon, I’m guessing it’s Eddie George’s job for the taking?

Jim Grobe partnering with our voluntary athletic director, KD, is our only hope. 

[ZippyRulz]

Ryan Day may be a available 

 

Gus Malzahn is retiring from UCF to become OC at FSU

 

Neal Brown is available.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2024 by ZippyRulz

[UA1996MAENG]

https://footballscoop.com/news/asked-about-his-future-at-akron-joe-moorhead-shrugs-and-mentions-lack-of-resources

 

For most of Moorehead's three seasons, I bounced from "give him time" to "fire his ass" and now I'm back to "give him time". For many reasons, it makes sense to to keep him, but now I'm afraid he's going to resign due to "lack of resources". If he stays I think UA has a chance to win 6 or 7 games in 2025, but that all depends on what happens in the portal in a few days. Will he stay?  Can he cobble together another roster to compete in 2025?