72 Roo Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 We once again have a problem at QB. Our inability to move the ball on offense is equally divided between the ineffective offensive scheme (Moorhead) and the QB (Finley). Is it time to look to Roggow, who is raw, or Tahj, who can't throw. Either way a hurting, nervous, happy-feeted Finley is not the answer. Should we rest him, allow him to heal and look to the others? What can it hurt? We are a bad team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronAlumnus Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Zips looked sorry especially in the second half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 This is what happens when you sell out for the first month. Players beat down physically and mentally with no momentum going into the actual games that matter and should be winnable 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Historically, he definitely throws too many INT's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdaddyp Posted September 30 Author Report Share Posted September 30 16 minutes ago, MangoZip said: Let’s face it, good Power 5 quarterbacks don’t end up at Akron because it’s their first choice. They end up here because it’s their last chance to be a starting D1 quarterback. Great info, as always, catdaddy. I have seen Finley make some great throws that were really impressive but also several really bad throws that far outnumber the good throws. Bottom line is that he is not a good enough QB for this team to a 90% passing team. They have to establish a running game to have any success. Maybe they should start using some more 2 tight end sets to help the running game and set up some play action passes. Something needs to change, one good drive and then multiple 3 and outs isn’t getting it done! Agreed, something has to change. Finley is not in a place to be able to carry this team without a run game. Otherwise, wins will continue to be hard to come by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 21 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: Historically, he definitely throws too many INT's. That's the primary problem. Secondary is the last 3 season all have sub 60% completion percentage. It's never been easier to complete a pass and an average QB should be minimum 60%. Feel free to click on the link below. Click on each QBs name to see individual stats. The QBs on the better teams complete a high percentage of passes. https://www.espn.com/college-football/qbr/_/group/15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 28 minutes ago, catdaddyp said: Agreed, something has to change. Finley is not in a place to be able to carry this team without a run game. Otherwise, wins will continue to be hard to come by. How many more years will it take Moorehead to find 'his' QB for 'his' system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 50 minutes ago, zippy5 said: This is what happens when you sell out for the first month. Players beat down physically and mentally with no momentum going into the actual games that matter and should be winnable Ohio U played Syracuse and Kentucky and still had enough energy to beat us down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 39 minutes ago, Lee Adams said: How many more years will it take Moorehead to find 'his' QB for 'his' system? Can we go back in time and say the first recruiting class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 1 hour ago, dre22era said: Ohio U played Syracuse and Kentucky and still had enough energy to beat us down Totally the same as OSU, South Carolina and Rutgers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoZip Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 (edited) 46 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Totally the same as OSU, South Carolina and Rutgers To imply that this team is playing so poorly is because of their out of conference schedule is ridiculous. Edited September 30 by MangoZip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 4 minutes ago, MangoZip said: To imply that this team is playing so poorly is because their out of conference schedule is ridiculous. It's a big factor in many ways. Physical and mental toll, but also this is a program with a losing culture. These guys haven't won in forever - what better way to change that culture by scheduling 3 non-winnable games out of the chute? It's like trying to turn the titanic with a fishing line 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 1 minute ago, MangoZip said: To imply that this team is playing so poorly is because their out of conference schedule is ridiculous. Idk, I kinda lean that way too. We got demoralized & our QB is a bit shell shocked & that could affect the rest of the season. (I know because I'm also demoralized and shell shocked.) I'm still nauseous over being given such a murderer's row to start the season when we so desperately just need W's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Listen, of course it's not the only reason. But we just don't help ourselves. There are few factors which we can directly control and put the program in position to succeed, and the schedule is one, and we shoot ourselves in the foot to start off every season. Next year's looks more reasonable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MangoZip Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 1 minute ago, Blue & Gold said: Idk, I kinda lean that way too. We got demoralized & our QB is a bit shell shocked & that could affect the rest of the season. (I know because I'm also demoralized and shell shocked.) I'm still nauseous over being given such a murderer's row to start the season when we so desperately just need W's. As far as I know, we didn’t sustain any serious injuries did we? Now we’re shell shocked?? What happened to the argument that it should be easier having faced that type of competition now that we are playing MAC schools again? The Ohio game wasn’t really that much different than the Ohio State, Rutgers, and South Carolina games. Hung in there a while, little to no offense, defense finally got worn down, lost big. BG lost close games to three really good teams (Penn State, Texas A&M, and Old Dominion), my guess is that they won’t look really worn down on Saturday. And before you say Old Dominion - they barely lost to South Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 (edited) 14 minutes ago, zippy5 said: It's a big factor in many ways. Physical and mental toll, but also this is a program with a losing culture. These guys haven't won in forever - what better way to change that culture by scheduling 3 non-winnable games out of the chute? It's like trying to turn the titanic with a fishing line You want to see them play mediocre schools = Cut them a check for $5mil then We need that money If those kids can't handle that level of competition = they don't need to be playing D1 ball then. Thats not the kids we should be recruiting We have won 8 games in 5 years Who we play at the beginning of the season is not the excuse. Edited September 30 by dre22era 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: It's a big factor in many ways. Physical and mental toll, but also this is a program with a losing culture. These guys haven't won in forever - what better way to change that culture by scheduling 3 non-winnable games out of the chute? It's like trying to turn the titanic with a fishing line What opponents do you think would be winnable? We look like a bottom 10 FBS program. Do you want us to schedule 4 FCS schools? Edit: It should be noted that the OSU game should have been a home game against Kentucky. Kentucky bought out that game fairly late in the scheduling process. I'm not sure what all schools would have been available to fill in the spot. Edited September 30 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 6 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: What opponents do you think would be winnable? We look like a bottom 10 FBS program. Do you want us to schedule 4 FCS schools? Next year's schedule looks great. Maybe we are bottom 10 in talent and it won't matter, but hard to tell against OSU, Kentucky and Rutgers. We have 1 payday P5 team, 2 G5 games and an FCS. That would be my formula. 2025 is Nebraska, UAB, Wyoming and Duquesne. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre22era Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 Hey Lets schedule nothing but FCS Schools Good luck drawing folks to those games. I can't wait to drive from Maryland to Akron to see us struggle against Colgate again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipinnc Posted September 30 Report Share Posted September 30 I think Finley deserves another game or two. Here’s the reason: This was his first mid major conference game. I agree he has to improve, but give him a minute to understand the difference between not being a P5 player vs. a G5 team. He’ll find a groove is my bet! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 Thanks, that was a good watch. Here's the youtube link: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgold Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 1 hour ago, ZippyRulz said: Thanks, that was a good watch. Here's the youtube link: Just a thought here and maybe it should have it's own thread, BUT...does anyone else think that perhaps Brookhart's return might possibly mean he would be in position to replace Moorhead and become head coach again if/when he leaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 16 minutes ago, blueandgold said: Just a thought here and maybe it should have it's own thread, BUT...does anyone else think that perhaps Brookhart's return might possibly mean he would be in position to replace Moorhead and become head coach again if/when he leaves? No chance. The guy is 60 now. Happy to have him as a WR coach, but the ship has sailed on him being a D1 HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1981 grad Posted October 4 Report Share Posted October 4 40 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: No chance. The guy is 60 now. Happy to have him as a WR coach, but the ship has sailed on him being a D1 HC. I knew Brookhart when he coached here and he is a super nice guy. After Akron I think he went to Colorado as an assistant and then left football to work on a family foundation and I think he has been out of football for 10 years. Was surprised to him come back to Akron but I also believe he has been out of football too long to come back as a head coach. Interesting to see his son sending in the signals since he was a toddler when Brookhart left Akron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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