Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 2 minutes ago, LZIp said: How so? He built the MAC brand around week night "MACtion" football. He has finally added a basketball school in UMass, but hasn't added any other basketball-first schools despite being in a relatively rich geographical setting for such addition(s). Just about half the MAC - schools like WMU, CMU, EMU, NIU, Balls, etc. - get to skate by in basketball thanks to maybe, maybe above average G5 football. Very little outside the box thinking to get the MAC more basketball exposure, despite the MAC having as much if not more success in basketball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandZip Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 9 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: He built the MAC brand around week night "MACtion" football. He has finally added a basketball school in UMass, but hasn't added any other basketball-first schools despite being in a relatively rich geographical setting for such addition(s). Just about half the MAC - schools like WMU, CMU, EMU, NIU, Balls, etc. - get to skate by in basketball thanks to maybe, maybe above average G5 football. Very little outside the box thinking to get the MAC more basketball exposure, despite the MAC having as much if not more success in basketball. Between this and the MAC’s absolutely pathetic media deal, Steinbrecher seems to be extremely incompetent.There’s a reason Toledo and NIU were considering going to the Mountain West’s skeleton conference for football only. Steinbrecher is practically giving away our media rights to ESPN. The A10 gets more money than us per school and they don’t even have football. They are a fun basketball conference. If it weren’t for our albatross football stadium, I’d love to move over to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandZip Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 Sorry, the coffee is taking too long to kick in this morning. I had to work myself up about something to wake up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 24 minutes ago, ClevelandZip said: There’s a reason Toledo and NIU were considering going to the Mountain West’s skeleton conference They were invited, but I don’t think they ever seriously considered leaving the MAC. If they did leave, there’s no way the MAC would allow their non-football sports to remain in the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 Ugh...and now for today's episode of "The MAC Blows!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 (edited) 1 hour ago, NWAkron said: Ugh...and now for today's episode of "The MAC Blows!" It does. It's the worst FBS level football conference, and now in the bottom 10 of basketball conferences. It continues to fall further and further behind. Wouldn't surprise me if Steinbrecher is safe because the aforementioned schools know they can half-ass it in basketball without repercussions. I'd hate for the conference to have respectable standards we should hold them to... Edited November 22 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 1 hour ago, Captain Kangaroo said: They were invited, but I don’t think they ever seriously considered leaving the MAC. If they did leave, there’s no way the MAC would allow their non-football sports to remain in the MAC. They wouldn't even be allowed to if the MAC wanted them to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 15 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: It does. It's the worst FBS level football conference, and now in the bottom 10 of basketball conferences. It continues to fall further and further behind. Wouldn't surprise me if Steinbrecher is safe because the aforementioned schools know they can half-ass it in basketball without repercussions. I'd hate for the conference to have respectable standards we should hold them to... I didn't know you felt that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 2 hours ago, Captain Kangaroo said: They were invited, but I don’t think they ever seriously considered leaving the MAC. If they did leave, there’s no way the MAC would allow their non-football sports to remain in the MAC. I never heard they were officially invited. You mean they spent 6 weeks just teasing everybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 7 minutes ago, ZippyRulz said: I never heard they were officially invited. You mean they spent 6 weeks just teasing everybody? There was no chance of it ever happening. The MWC tossed out a hook with no bait and hoped they might get lucky and snag a bluegill. Didn't work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 It's a much bigger issue than the MAC commissioner. BGSU, Miami, and WMU all arguably are more committed to hockey than they are basketball. It's not like he can dictate how schools spend their limited resources. 5-10 years ago the MAC tried to introduce incentives to reward regular season and post season success by paying out larger shares of NCAA tournament credits to teams that do well. The issue is the MAC more times than not doesn't make it past the 1st round of the tournament so the MAC isn't earning enough credits to make the incentives large enough to motivate teams to compete. It's more profitable for CMU to forego the incentives and take paychecks to play on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandZip Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: It's a much bigger issue than the MAC commissioner. BGSU, Miami, and WMU all arguably are more committed to hockey than they are basketball. It's not like he can dictate how schools spend their limited resources. 5-10 years ago the MAC tried to introduce incentives to reward regular season and post season success by paying out larger shares of NCAA tournament credits to teams that do well. The issue is the MAC more times than not doesn't make it past the 1st round of the tournament so the MAC isn't earning enough credits to make the incentives large enough to motivate teams to compete. It's more profitable for CMU to forego the incentives and take paychecks to play on the road. I was misstating if you all thought I was implying it is JUST the commissioner’s fault, so I apologize for that. My point is, though, that if ZipsNation.org could probably crowd-fund a better TV deal than the one ESPN gives the MAC, we should have someone who is a better negotiator to go to the table with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted November 22 Author Report Share Posted November 22 13 minutes ago, ClevelandZip said: I was misstating if you all thought I was implying it is JUST the commissioner’s fault, so I apologize for that. My point is, though, that if ZipsNation.org could probably crowd-fund a better TV deal than the one ESPN gives the MAC, we should have someone who is a better negotiator to go to the table with them. If we're able to pull that off I am going to insist that all games be held at 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday mornings to ensure that the MAC games are the only football games happening at that given time in the whole USA to draw in that huge TV crowd. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandZip Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 6 minutes ago, clarkwgriswold said: If we're able to pull that off I am going to insist that all games be held at 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday mornings to ensure that the MAC games are the only football games happening at that given time in the whole USA to draw in that huge TV crowd. There will definitely be some sickos willing to tune in that early! I’m sure ESPN has made a killing on all the commercials they get to show on these 4-hour Tuesday night games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 1 hour ago, clarkwgriswold said: If we're able to pull that off I am going to insist that all games be held at 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday mornings to ensure that the MAC games are the only football games happening at that given time in the whole USA to draw in that huge TV crowd. As a Zips fan, this would probably be for the best. I could just view the boxscore after work to see they lost. No need to waste hours of my evening watching the pathetic product we've been putting out the past ~15 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlu Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 Seriously ... I think Akron/MAC needs to somehow figure out what football level all can compete at to at least be .500 successful most years, and perhaps .750 a couple years with a magical year sprinkled in every decade. At some point, in my mind, the supposed $$$ you get for being at the current level is anchored down by the level of embarrassment that presents itself every year not just for Akron, but several other MAC schools as well ... so to be joined by UMass. If that means dropping down a level in FB, to raise the level of other sports (BB, VB, Hoc, Soc, etc) then so be it. Repeating the same thing over and over again is insane ... and has been proven so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 22 Report Share Posted November 22 It's not financially feasible to drop down. Not even worth discussing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 I've vocally criticized the MAC over the past year, but I'll give it it's due tonight. They went a perfect 4-0 tonight. They were favored in all 4 match-ups, but winning games that you're expected to win hasn't been the MAC's strong suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 4 hours ago, RoyalBlu said: Seriously ... I think Akron/MAC needs to somehow figure out what football level all can compete at to at least be .500 successful most years, and perhaps .750 a couple years with a magical year sprinkled in every decade. At some point, in my mind, the supposed $$$ you get for being at the current level is anchored down by the level of embarrassment that presents itself every year not just for Akron, but several other MAC schools as well ... so to be joined by UMass. If that means dropping down a level in FB, to raise the level of other sports (BB, VB, Hoc, Soc, etc) then so be it. Repeating the same thing over and over again is insane ... and has been proven so. How will dropping a level in football do anything but ruin our other sports? If we’re out of the MAC, good luck to Groce recruiting any talent whatsoever to his Horizon League program. Dropping to FCS = Youngstown State = Cleveland State Is that what you want for Akron? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reslife4Life Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 Our schedule is a joke! North Carolina is playing on the road at an unranked Big West team, why can’t we schedule that!!!!! Just don’t look at what team they are playing 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 9 hours ago, Reslife4Life said: Our schedule is a joke! North Carolina is playing on the road at an unranked Big West team, why can’t we schedule that!!!!! Just don’t look at what team they are playing It wasn't a road game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: It wasn't a road game True. You can't drive to Hawaii 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: True. You can't drive to Hawaii Google told me it was in Belgium! Lol Edited November 23 by zippy5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 At the half, it was DePaul 51, Northern Illinois 15. DePaul's leading scorer had 16 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted November 23 Report Share Posted November 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, zipsrule said: At the half, it was DePaul 51, Northern Illinois 15. DePaul's leading scorer had 16 points. It's going to take people a bit to realize this is a new DePaul under Holtmann. Nobody should forget it's the same old NIU. Edited November 23 by Let'sGoZips94 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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