Zippy87 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 He went at the FB coach too lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Zippy87 said: He went at the FB coach too lol Oh my goodness. What a mental midget. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 I think Kent-Miami basketball just became a rivalry? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 7 hours ago, 1981 grad said: I know I am in the minority but a Kent win is good vibes for the MAC and a Zip win on Friday. I will take that as a consolation to be positive about their not getting beat. If it's Can't, I'd still prefer the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 7 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said: I will take that as a consolation to be positive about their not getting beat. If it's Can't, I'd still prefer the latter. Doesn't matter to me either way. Their seniors lost out (possibly...we don't know what would have happened) on a MAC Championship because of a teammates's awful mistake. Yes, they won the year before, but now we know that each championship matters. I will give them some grace. Edited March 19 by NWAkron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 Pretty immature stuff from Pinky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 50 minutes ago, Captain Kangaroo said: I think Kent-Miami basketball just became a rivalry? Kent vs Heidelberg was a closer game than the Miami OH/Kent battles this year. I can't wait to see if Pinky flexes their double digit victory vs Small School National Champion Miami Hamilton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 19 Author Report Share Posted March 19 Dear Mr. Pinky- Scoreboard (3X) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 8 hours ago, 1981 grad said: I know I am in the minority but a Kent win is good vibes for the MAC and a Zip win on Friday. You are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 3 hours ago, LZIp said: Pretty immature stuff from Pinky. The same could be said for the Miami coaches as well. There were worst teams that made the field than Kent (using NET & Kenpom rankings). Miami coaches should have been asking why the MAC didn't get multiple bids. Not taking shots at Kent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 1 minute ago, kreed5120 said: The same could be said for the Miami coaches as well. There were worst teams that made the field than Kent (using NET & Kenpom rankings). Miami coaches should have been asking why the MAC didn't get multiple bids. Not taking shots at Kent. It was the Miami OH AD and football coach - not their basketball coaches - that raised hell. Miami OH beat Kent 3x and finished second in the conference both for the regular season & tourney. Targeting Kent was their strongest argument as the only team lower than them in NET that got into the NIT was San Jose State. I have zero issue with them targeting Kent who has zero business even sniffing the NIT, at least ahead of Miami and probably other schools. For the Miami argument to live rent free in Sendy's head is not a good sign for the Akron Yankees' AAA team in Portage County being in a healthy spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: It was the Miami OH AD and football coach - not their basketball coaches - that raised hell. Miami OH beat Kent 3x and finished second in the conference both for the regular season & tourney. Targeting Kent was their strongest argument as the only team lower than them in NET that got into the NIT was San Jose State. I have zero issue with them targeting Kent who has zero business even sniffing the NIT, at least ahead of Miami and probably other schools. For the Miami argument to live rent free in Sendy's head is not a good sign for the Akron Yankees' AAA team in Portage County being in a healthy spot. It sounds like you're okay with the double standard of one side being petty, but the other side not. Good to know 👍 Edit: To be clear Kent was always going to get into the NIT over Miami. The NIT issued a statement back in October indicating they were going to use a formula that weighted NET, Kenpom, and other rankings to pick teams. Kent was better in all those advanced rankings. You can argue that it's crap, which I don't disagree, but they were very transparent before the season even tipped off. Edited March 19 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: It sounds like you're okay with the double standard of one side being petty, but the other side not. Good to know 👍 How is Miami OH being petty fighting getting absolutely screwed? What did Kent do this season to earn a NIT bid - lose to Auburn, Alabama, and UC Irvine? Beat Heidelberg by 4? Go damn near .500 in the MAC? Sendy has never taken any accountability for his highly mediocre tenure as Kent's coach that includes multiple character issues on top of consistently losing to Akron. He needed to have some humility, accept the NIT bid quietly, win quietly, and move on. Instead, the clown honked his nose when he needed to put his clown shoe in his mouth. Quite frankly, it also points to how flawed NET is, and I'm all for tearing down that BS rating system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: How is Miami OH being petty fighting getting absolutely screwed? What did Kent do this season to earn a NIT bid - lose to Auburn, Alabama, and UC Irvine? Beat Heidelberg by 4? Go damn near .500 in the MAC? Sendy has never taken any accountability for his highly mediocre tenure as Kent's coach that includes multiple character issues on top of consistently losing to Akron. He needed to have some humility, accept the NIT bid quietly, win quietly, and move on. Instead, the clown honked his nose when he needed to put his clown shoe in his mouth. Quite frankly, it also points to how flawed NET is, and I'm all for tearing down that BS rating system. What did Miami do to earn it? The reality is neither school really deserved it. Last years Toledo team, which missed the NIT, was better than both Miami and Kent this year. Kent was only picked because a dozen or so schools turned it down and the Crown took another dozen or so schools that would have otherwise been invited over Kent or Miami. Once again, the criteria was clearly stated at the start of the season on what the committee would weigh. Miami was objectively worse in every metric the committee said they would weigh, so I'm not sure where you're getting they got "screwed". Miami sounds like the kid who complains he got failed because he missed too many classes when the syllabus he received at the start of the season clearly stated that if you miss more than 3 classes, you get automatic F. Edited March 19 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 5 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: What did Miami do to earn it? The reality is neither school really deserved it. Last years Toledo team, which missed the NIT, was miles better than both Miami and Kent this year. Kent was only picked because a dozen or so schools turned it down and the Crown took another dozen or so schools that would have otherwise been invited over Kent or Miami. Once again, the criteria was clearly stated at the start of the season on what the committee would weigh. Miami was objectively worse in every metric the committee said they would weigh, so I'm not sure where you're getting they got "screwed". Miami sounds like the kid who got failed because they missed too many classes when the syllabus they received at the start of the season clearly stated that if you miss more than 3 classes, you get automatic F. I'm not saying they did, and the truth is probably somewhere around there that neither team really deserved it. However, the NIT has reduced itself to a garbage postseason tournament, and in doing so was forced to deviate from their original "standards". Once they did that, Miami OH had an argument. For as simplistic as RPI was (I encourage all who haven't yet to go look at the realtimeRPI rankings and see how much more fun the NCAA tournament field would've been based on those), NET is overly complicated and arguably crooked. Anyways, go Stanford. I hope the poverty community college in Portage County is enjoying shelling out all these travel expenses for meaningless postseason basketball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 (edited) 5 hours ago, clarkwgriswold said: Dear Mr. Pinky- Scoreboard (3X) Make that 4x if you count football. Basketball coaches who have suffered three losses in the same year by their team and have a winless football season should not get into Twitter fights with other school. Miami didn't really take any shots at Kent other than pointing out they beat them three times. Edited March 19 by ewbrooman1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 19 Report Share Posted March 19 What a program Sendy runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlu Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 8 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: It was the Miami OH AD and football coach - not their basketball coaches - that raised hell. Miami OH beat Kent 3x and finished second in the conference both for the regular season & tourney. Targeting Kent was their strongest argument as the only team lower than them in NET that got into the NIT was San Jose State. I have zero issue with them targeting Kent who has zero business even sniffing the NIT, at least ahead of Miami and probably other schools. For the Miami argument to live rent free in Sendy's head is not a good sign for the Akron Yankees' AAA team in Portage County being in a healthy spot. Just to be fair ... there were at least three teams, including Wichita State, ranked below Kent and above Miami that got into the NIT ahead of Miami. If the MAC was guaranteed a bid from the outset, then Miami should have been the pick as No. 2 in the MAC. But only top 15 conferences were guaranteed a bid. After that, it was all metrics. I say, if you beat a team 3 times, and still don't rank above them in the metrics then (1) something is wrong with the rest of your metrics and (2) you are just a bad matchup. That's a MAC issue, not a NIT issue. Miami still ranked 20 spots lower, Kenpom, not just one or two, or they probably would have been picked, along with Kent. Something in that Miami resume didn't add up. On the court, in the MAC, no question Miami was the better team. But on paper, it was Kent. Not saying it's right. Just sayin ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlu Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 4 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: What a program Sendy runs. I believe it's spring break ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 35 minutes ago, RoyalBlu said: Just to be fair ... there were at least three teams, including Wichita State, ranked below Kent and above Miami that got into the NIT ahead of Miami. If the MAC was guaranteed a bid from the outset, then Miami should have been the pick as No. 2 in the MAC. But only top 15 conferences were guaranteed a bid. After that, it was all metrics. I say, if you beat a team 3 times, and still don't rank above them in the metrics then (1) something is wrong with the rest of your metrics and (2) you are just a bad matchup. That's a MAC issue, not a NIT issue. Miami still ranked 20 spots lower, Kenpom, not just one or two, or they probably would have been picked, along with Kent. Something in that Miami resume didn't add up. On the court, in the MAC, no question Miami was the better team. But on paper, it was Kent. Not saying it's right. Just sayin ... Kent played Auburn, Bama, and UC Irvine. That's the difference in the metrics. 30 minutes ago, RoyalBlu said: I believe it's spring break ... So they lose Friday night and immediately hop on a plane to party destinations when there was still the NIT/CBI they could play in? Glad they have their priorities in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 (edited) TBF Kent likely had no intention of playing in the CBI (it's a scam tournament) and I don't think anyone expected them to make the NIT. I know I certainly didn't. There was no way of predicting they would backdoor their way into the tournament by 2 dozen teams passing on the NIT. I'd say the fact they cut their trips short and flew back says their priorities were in order. I think it more just speaks to how the NIT went from being semi-prestigious to mid overnight. Edited March 20 by kreed5120 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlu Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 47 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: TBF Kent likely had no intention of playing in the CBI (it's a scam tournament) and I don't think anyone expected them to make the NIT. I know I certainly didn't. There was no way of predicting they would backdoor their way into the tournament by 2 dozen teams passing on the NIT. I'd say the fact they cut their trips short and flew back says their priorities were in order. I think it more just speaks to how the NIT went from being semi-prestigious to mid overnight. I think what most folks are missing is the fact Kent was rewarded for having a solid non-conference schedule. Yes, they lost to Auburn, Alabama and Cal-Irvine, -- Akron and Miami a total of 5 times, too -- but also won their share of games as well. Look at the Mid-Major Top 25, and you will see Akron and Kent played a fair share of games vs. teams in the T-25 and others getting votes. The rest of the MAC should take scheduling note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 I think the bigger thing is those losers had trips planned not thinking they'd be playing basketball past last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 14 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: What a program Sendy runs. In 1998, Dennis Rodman skipped out of practice in the NBA Finals to wrestle Hulk Hogan and spend some time with a model in Las Vegas. They still won the championship. Kent did just fine after a couple of guys missed one practice. After 30+ games, how much practice do these guys really need for a Mickey Mouse post season tournament? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsBBjunkie Posted March 20 Report Share Posted March 20 9 hours ago, zippy5 said: I think the bigger thing is those losers had trips planned not thinking they'd be playing basketball past last weekend. You don’t need months, weeks or even days of planning to hop on a flight to Vegas or Florida from Cleveland these days. Maybe when it is Spring Break for all the local primary schools it would be a problem and certainly more pricey, but I’m sure the season ended in the semis and they figured they were done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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